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English Paper 2 Essay Lengths and Timing

  • 06-06-2012 3:45pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 113 ✭✭


    Before people say quality before quantity, with paper 2 I've noticed, the longer the answer, the better marks I get. So would these be A1 standard lengths:

    Single Text: 1200 words
    Comparative: 1600 Words
    Studied Poetry: 1400 words


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,211 ✭✭✭Owen_S


    I would aim for twice that TBH.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,578 ✭✭✭WarZoneBrother


    Kelix wrote: »
    Before people say quality before quantity, with paper 2 I've noticed, the longer the answer, the better marks I get. So would these be A1 standard lengths:

    Single Text: 1200 words
    Comparative: 1600 Words
    Studied Poetry: 1400 words

    Can you convert that into pages?... Seems hard to judge with words...?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,763 ✭✭✭finality


    There's no such thing as "A1 standard lengths".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 113 ✭✭Kelix


    Can you convert that into pages?... Seems hard to judge with words...?
    About 4 to 5 pages in word, so about 6 - 7 pages in handwriting


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,799 ✭✭✭SureYWouldntYa


    Hamlet - 6 pages

    Comparative - 7 pages

    Unseen - 1.5 pages

    Prescribed - 5 pages


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,992 ✭✭✭✭partyatmygaff


    Hamlet - 6 pages

    Comparative - 7 pages

    Unseen - 1.5 pages

    Prescribed - 5 pages
    No such thing as A1 length. I got an A1 and I wrote:
    Hamlet - 3 pages
    Comparative - 4 pages
    Unseen - 1.5 pages
    Prescribed - 4 pages


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20 Namaste2u


    Hamlet: 5 is the sweet spot

    Poetry: 4, I've gotten A1s with 4, 5 is a bit ridiculous for something that is only 50 marks.

    Unseen Poetry: 1.5 should do it/

    Comparative: 5-6, 7 is a little too much IMO

    Remember: quality =/= quantity

    If your essay is finished then that's just it, don't try to fluff it up with too much waffle. A lot of muppets seem to be teaching students to write 6 or7 pages, for 'normal' handwriting that is bordering too much. The examiners don't want the whole plot of Hamlet summarised, just answer the question with scenes/poems/quotes that are relevant and you'll be fine!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,076 ✭✭✭Eathrin


    Poetry 4 pages 1200 words
    Hamlet 4 pages 1200 words
    Comparative 5 pages 1500 words

    I think this is more than adequate.
    No such thing as A1 length, obviously you can't write just 1 page but it's about content and quakity not length.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,391 ✭✭✭Mysteriouschic


    I think it depends on how much you've stuck to the question.
    My comparative A1 was 7 pages but it was too long so I'll shorten it .
    Role of women I think was 3-4 pages don't worry too much about length just as long as you answer the questions well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,799 ✭✭✭SureYWouldntYa


    No such thing as A1 length. I got an A1 and I wrote:
    Hamlet - 3 pages
    Comparative - 4 pages
    Unseen - 1.5 pages
    Prescribed - 4 pages

    Well it does need to be a certain length to warrant an A1 :L My writing is fairly big, round 180pp so take that into account


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 113 ✭✭Kelix


    I don't waffle though, I'm 100% sure everything I have to say in my essays is relevant and I get A1's with them in school, but I know in the exams people tend to do less than in school and sometimes get the same marks regardless...I just wanted to know where everyone else was at on it. The only thing is if you do the amount I said you have to rush the unseen poetry a bit - but it's easy to get full marks there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 568 ✭✭✭Dapics


    Kelix wrote: »
    I don't waffle though, I'm 100% sure everything I have to say in my essays is relevant and I get A1's with them in school, but I know in the exams people tend to do less than in school and sometimes get the same marks regardless...I just wanted to know where everyone else was at on it. The only thing is if you do the amount I said you have to rush the unseen poetry a bit - but it's easy to get full marks there.

    I disagree with you on the unseen poem. I have never seen 20/20 marks for it. It is unfeasible to even think you can get that. 17,18 is very reasonable but the full 20 is almost impossible due to the way the human mind works, no answer is ever perfect.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,763 ✭✭✭finality


    Dapics wrote: »
    I disagree with you on the unseen poem. I have never seen 20/20 marks for it. It is unfeasible to even think you can get that. 17,18 is very reasonable but the full 20 is almost impossible due to the way the human mind works, no answer is ever perfect.

    It's pretty impossible to get full marks for any english question. I got 19/20 for the unseen poem in the pre, determined to repeat this tomorrow. :L


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 406 ✭✭AnnaKin


    Apparently my writing is small, but in any case I agree its quality over quantity. A hamlet essay i did was just barely over three pages and I got 91%. Overall I range from 3-4 pages tops, swaying between the B1's and A1's.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17 felixfelicis


    Pages:

    Single Text: 4/5
    Comparative: 5/6
    Poetry: 4
    Unseen: 2.5


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,249 ✭✭✭Bears and Vodka


    I went to an English revision course at Christmas and the teacher was an experienced examiner. She related us a story of two candidates who both achieved A1's, one handed up two booklets for each Paper (I dont know how, she says the short story was 12 pages), and the other candidate handed up a booklet with the bare minimum written for everything. Something like 2 pages for Hamlet, 3 for Comparative and something like that.

    So essentially it all depends on yourself, how you write, how you phrase, what approach you take.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27 bazinga_


    I'd usually do a mark a minute, ie 60 mins for Hamlet, 50 for prescribed poetry, 70 for comparative, and 20 for unseen poetry, including time to read and plan in each.


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