i want a louder backbox

Jamie MK2

Car : Punto MK2

well lads,
i want to get a back box mainly just for the noise :P

i've been looking on MCG Austostyling and that and they range from high to low prices?

he has a 3.5" BB no name for €59 or he has another called Injen? for over €100

are they all mainly the same?

any suggestions on other B.boxes?
cheers

dar83

Just get someone to smash your back doors in! :pac:

Seriously though, €100 for a backbox is cheap, my advice would be to not other making a small engined car sound louder via the backbox. That is unless you want people to laugh?

m055y

Jamie is your motor 8v or 16v? if 8v keep an eye out for a focus induction kit on flebay it goes straight on and then go for the back box, induction kit will make it a little more responsive and give it nice subtle bit of grunt! My 16v has a cheapo induction kit and its sounds pretty sweet...

Jamie MK2

dar83 wrote: »

Just get someone to smash your back doors in! :pac:

Seriously though, €100 for a backbox is cheap, my advice would be to not other making a small engined car sound louder via the backbox. That is unless you want people to laugh?

Iv asked for opinions on what BB to be looking at
whats it to you what i do to the car....i dont see how people would laugh either? im sure they've seen plenty a ****box civics roaring up and down the road, a punto wont even be noticed

m055y wrote: »

Jamie is your motor 8v or 16v? if 8v keep an eye out for a focus induction kit on flebay it goes straight on and then go for the back box, induction kit will make it a little more responsive and give it nice subtle bit of grunt! My 16v has a cheapo induction kit and its sounds pretty sweet...

story lad
ah i had an induction kit fitted to my last punto and didnt like it drank petrol :mad:

focus_mad

Jamie MK2 wrote: »

Iv asked for opinions on what BB to be looking at
whats it to you what i do to the car....i dont see how people would laugh either? im sure they've seen plenty a ****box civics roaring up and down the road, a punto wont even be noticed

Jamie, the poster is giving their opinion.

I would echo some of their opinion though, having a growl is better when you have the horses to back it up..? But each to their own. That is a good price from MCG but would you not perhaps save a few more quid and DROP it

Jamie MK2

focus_mad wrote: »

Jamie, the poster is giving their opinion.

I would echo some of their opinion though, having a growl is better when you have the horses to back it up..? But each to their own. That is a good price from MCG but would you not perhaps save a few more quid and DROP it

ah i know yeah but people see the word punto and immediatley say dont waste the money?
i wouldnt have bought the car if i wasnt gonna do stuf to it :pac:

anyway,
would a cheapo BB have the same noise as the Injen one? 100 quid on a bb is a bit much

blindside88

I had a punto as my first car many moons ago great little car and easy to mod, what part of the country you in? I have a box on modding them and it's fairly comprehensive just sitting on my shelf gathering dust you can have it if it's any good to ya

focus_mad

Jamie MK2 wrote: »

ah i know yeah but people see the word punto and immediatley say dont waste the money?
i wouldnt have bought the car if i wasnt gonna do stuf to it :pac:

anyway,
would a cheapo BB have the same noise as the Injen one? 100 quid on a bb is a bit much

Not just you though, we've been saying it to Daryl with his fiesta too.

Anyway..

I don't know too much about backbones etc...

Souhans do brilliant fabricated kits but dunno if it's worth the cash in place of wanting a bacbox!

Jamie MK2

blindside88 wrote: »

I had a punto as my first car many moons ago great little car and easy to mod, what part of the country you in? I have a box on modding them and it's fairly comprehensive just sitting on my shelf gathering dust you can have it if it's any good to ya

Pm sent

Jamie MK2

focus_mad wrote: »

Not just you though, we've been saying it to Daryl with his fiesta too.

Anyway..

I don't know too much about backbones etc...

Souhans do brilliant fabricated kits but dunno if it's worth the cash in place of wanting a bacbox!

what would be the difference in a fabricated kit? be a full system would it?

more than likely cost more than i paid for the car :P

JimmyCrackCorn

Jamie MK2 wrote: »

anyway,
would a cheapo BB have the same noise as the Injen one? 100 quid on a bb is a bit much

100 quid is about the same price as a factory back box.

100 quid for a quality made part is peanuts and no backbox will sound identical as they are all different shapes and sizes therefore make different notes at different resonance points.

I would warn against cheap backboxes and backboxes in general as with the new noise level tests in the NCT you can fail and also a garda can test you for excessive noise.

While 99DB is excessive a small capacity engine with a can type exhaust can easily make that amount of noise.

Also you legally need to declare the exhaust modification to your insurance company as its technically a performance modification even though it will make you no power


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dar83

Jamie MK2 wrote: »

Iv asked for opinions on what BB to be looking at
whats it to you what i do to the car....i dont see how people would laugh either? im sure they've seen plenty a ****box civics roaring up and down the road, a punto wont even be noticed

You asked for an opinion and I gave one, what's the problem?

I couldn't care less what you do to the car, it's yours, enjoy. But if you're thinking €100 is expensive for a "backbox" then I can only imagine what you will end up doing to the car and trust me, people will laugh.

The reason people tell you not to put money into the car is basically because if you want to do the things to it that are worthwhile (realistic gains/worthwhileness are also debatable), you will end up spending more than the car is worth which you already seem to appreciate which is a good thing, it has nothing to do with it being "a Punto".

The best thing you can do is not bother trying to make it sound any better, but work on the subtlety of its looks. As was said by someone else drop it, get some spacers and a nice set of alloys. Induction etc... is a waste of time and money as it's not worth the expense for little to no performance gain on such a small non turbo engine.

If you're really desperate for a better sound on a budget, buy a drillbit in Woodies and get some holes drilled in your exhaust. :pac:

Jamie MK2

i got on Souhans in trim and they will supply and it a Magnaflow backbox for €140
sounds cheap enough but what are magnaflow like?

m055y

Alright Jamie,

I have heard Magnaflow are pretty good quality... they look good on the magnaflow website anyhow.

Your right about fuel economy with induction kit... my daily driver is a 1.6 Hyundai Elantra and that uses less fuel around town than the Punto

But any mod you do youll be eating into fule economy.

Years ago I used to do a bit of messing around with mini's and the same craic - never had an economical one despite only being 1275 cc

Good luck with it!

Jamie MK2

m055y wrote: »

Alright Jamie,

I have heard Magnaflow are pretty good quality... they look good on the magnaflow website anyhow.

Your right about fuel economy with induction kit... my daily driver is a 1.6 Hyundai Elantra and that uses less fuel around town than the Punto

But any mod you do youll be eating into fule economy.

Years ago I used to do a bit of messing around with mini's and the same craic - never had an economical one despite only being 1275 cc

Good luck with it!

cheers im going down in a while to have a look at what ones might suit the car :cool:

Jamie MK2

Ok so today i went to Souhans in Trim and had a look at there backboxes

for €140 i can get a Souhan stainless steel, straight through BB and tip fitted
or €170 for a magnaflow, was told the magnaflow will be too big or the car though

are straight through stainless steel boxes any good?

JimmyCrackCorn

Jamie MK2 wrote: »

Ok so today i went to Souhans in Trim and had a look at there backboxes

for €140 i can get a Souhan stainless steel, straight through BB and tip fitted
or €170 for a magnaflow, was told the magnaflow will be too big or the car though

are straight through stainless steel boxes any good?

It may be the few beers but good in what context.

They make noise as they have no baffles so sound raspy. Again it depends on the construction as its effectively behaving like a musical instrument if your sole is noise its a function of the complete system and the properties of the backbox.

A off the shelf Chinese pressed straight through box could sound like anything from a fart to a trombone depending on construction.

Honestly no one is going to be able to help unless they have fitted the same can to the same car.
I will say however that magniflow is a respected brand.

I can provide links to resonance tuning of induction and exhaust in high performance engines but that doesn't fit your goals.

Jamie MK2

JimmyCrackCorn wrote: »

It may be the few beers but good in what context.

They make noise as they have no baffles so sound raspy. Again it depends on the construction as its effectively behaving like a musical instrument if your sole is noise its a function of the complete system and the properties of the backbox.

A off the shelf Chinese pressed straight through box could sound like anything from a fart to a trombone depending on construction.

Honestly no one is going to be able to help unless they have fitted the same can to the same car.
I will say however that magniflow is a respected brand.

I can provide links to resonance tuning of induction and exhaust in high performance engines but that doesn't fit your goals.

im hoping for something like this
this punto still has original cat in place, its just a straight pipe from cat to back box, same as my car, and most punto's

and his bb is custom made stainless steel with no baffles :cool: