PS3 phat blu ray drive problem?

giggsy07

Hi.My brothers 40 gig ps3 phat packed in yesterday while i was playing it so im left with the guilt of being my fault.Wanted to see if i can get some help on home repair myself.I was playing MW3,after 15 mins the game crashed.I had to force shut down and when i powered back up i found that the disc drive is no longer reading any type of media.Games/dvd/music.It accepts discs,blue light stays on but no spinning.I took it apart and replaced the lens with a similar model 400a lens put it back together and the same story no spinning from the spindle.Any ideas much appreciated..Thanks

Myrddin

Where did you get the replacement lens?

giggsy07

EnterNow wrote: »

Where did you get the replacement lens?

Hi.A local guy said he fixes ps3's seen him on adverts.Told me the lens was good but who knows..

Myrddin

giggsy07 wrote: »

Hi.A local guy said he fixes ps3's seen him on adverts.Told me the lens was good but who knows..

Thats your problem there:

1) It's a working laser, but the problem lies elsewhere
2) It's a laser from a used/broken console, & it's unknown whether it worked at all
3) It's a dud laser, there are many cheap lasers floating around that may work for a minute, an hour a day, a week - or be dead on arrival.

The only way to narrow down the list is to buy a laser from an established seller online etc.

giggsy07

EnterNow wrote: »

Thats your problem there:

1) It's a working laser, but the problem lies elsewhere
2) It's a laser from a used/broken console, & it's unknown whether it worked at all
3) It's a dud laser, there are many cheap lasers floating around that may work for a minute, an hour a day, a week - or be dead on arrival.

The only way to narrow down the list is to buy a laser from an established seller online etc.

Probably be better off biting the bullet would i and bin it?:(

giggsy07

EnterNow wrote: »

Thats your problem there:

1) It's a working laser, but the problem lies elsewhere
2) It's a laser from a used/broken console, & it's unknown whether it worked at all
3) It's a dud laser, there are many cheap lasers floating around that may work for a minute, an hour a day, a week - or be dead on arrival.

The only way to narrow down the list is to buy a laser from an established seller online etc.

I got another drive from a different model pse taught id be able to pair the logic board from 1 with the original but just my luck different boards.But at least it spun the disc with the new drive so maybe a spindle problem im not sure.
Maybe if i get a similar drive and just replace logic board from the original onto the new 1 that might do it..Is ebay the only place to buy replacement rives?Thanks again..

giggsy07

EnterNow wrote: »

Thats your problem there:

1) It's a working laser, but the problem lies elsewhere
2) It's a laser from a used/broken console, & it's unknown whether it worked at all
3) It's a dud laser, there are many cheap lasers floating around that may work for a minute, an hour a day, a week - or be dead on arrival.

The only way to narrow down the list is to buy a laser from an established seller online etc.

I got another drive from a different model pse taught id be able to pair the logic board from 1 with the original but just my luck different boards.But at least it spun the disc with the new drive so maybe a spindle problem im not sure.
Maybe if i get a similar drive and just replace logic board from the original onto the new 1 that might do it..Is ebay the only place to buy replacement drives?Thanks again..

Myrddin

giggsy07 wrote: »

Probably be better off biting the bullet would i and bin it?:(

Not at all, its a very common problem & easily fixable once you can verify the laser is good.

giggsy07 wrote: »

I got another drive from a different model pse taught id be able to pair the logic board from 1 with the original but just my luck different boards.But at least it spun the disc with the new drive so maybe a spindle problem im not sure.
Maybe if i get a similar drive and just replace logic board from the original onto the new 1 that might do it..Is ebay the only place to buy replacement rives?Thanks again..

The logic boards are married to the consoles motherboard, swapping from once console to another will not work at all I'm afraid.

giggsy07

EnterNow wrote: »

Not at all, its a very common problem & easily fixable once you can verify the laser is good.



The logic boards are married to the consoles motherboard, swapping from once console to another will not work at all I'm afraid.

So id have to remove the logic board from the original drive and place it on a new same model drive??Thanks again and sorry about multi posting bad connection..:o

Myrddin

giggsy07 wrote: »

So id have to remove the logic board from the original drive and place it on a new same model drive??Thanks again and sorry about multi posting bad connection..:o

Exactly yes, that's if your swapping the whole drive itself. Obviously if its just the laser unit, you don't have to worry about the logic board.

One way of ruling out a logic board problem would be to reinstall or upgrade the firmware. Because the logic board is flashed during a firmware install, any problems with it will abort the installation. If your on the most current firmware, you might have to reinstall via the service menu as opposed to via the xmb.

giggsy07

EnterNow wrote: »

Exactly yes, that's if your swapping the whole drive itself. Obviously if its just the laser unit, you don't have to worry about the logic board.

One way of ruling out a logic board problem would be to reinstall or upgrade the firmware. Because the logic board is flashed during a firmware install, any problems with it will abort the installation. If your on the most current firmware, you might have to reinstall via the service menu as opposed to via the xmb.

Thanks friend:)

noodler

Jeez, you're fierce intellgient EN.

Myrddin

noodler wrote: »

Jeez, you're fierce intellgient EN.

Huh? Nah, I just know consoles. Maths now, well thats different

giggsy07

noodler wrote: »

Jeez, you're fierce intellgient EN.

Nice spellin mate:)

noodler

giggsy07 wrote: »

Nice spellin mate:)

Whoops.

giggsy07

noodler wrote: »

Whoops.

eddhorse

Blu-ray Lens

Note that the lens in the Blu-ray drive went through various evolutions as newer PS3 models were released. Many of the initial 40GB models (CECHG) used a cheaper version of Blu-ray lens, which had a high failure rate, requiring replacement.

Blu-ray lens model Description PS3 models
KEM-400AAA The original with single lens (includes mount) CECHA-CECHE
KES-400AAA Single lens using cheaper parts. CECHG
KEM-410ACA There are two lens, one for CD/DVD, and another one for Blu-ray (includes mount) CECHH
KES-410ACA There are two lens, one for CD/DVD, and another one for Blu-ray. CECHH
KES-450ACA There are two lens, one for CD/DVD, and another one for Blu-ray. CECH-20xx

giggsy07

eddhorse wrote: »

Blu-ray Lens

Note that the lens in the Blu-ray drive went through various evolutions as newer PS3 models were released. Many of the initial 40GB models (CECHG) used a cheaper version of Blu-ray lens, which had a high failure rate, requiring replacement.

Blu-ray lens model Description PS3 models
KEM-400AAA The original with single lens (includes mount) CECHA-CECHE
KES-400AAA Single lens using cheaper parts. CECHG
KEM-410ACA There are two lens, one for CD/DVD, and another one for Blu-ray (includes mount) CECHH
KES-410ACA There are two lens, one for CD/DVD, and another one for Blu-ray. CECHH
KES-450ACA There are two lens, one for CD/DVD, and another one for Blu-ray. CECH-20xx

Thanks edd seen that..Cheers.

Kenno90

EN , care to fix my old PS3 (Nice Reward Offered ) , same thing problem as the OP mentioned, it won't play any discs

I ended up buying another one but it'll be nice to have two ps3's

giggsy07

Kenno90 wrote: »

EN , care to fix my old PS3 (Nice Reward Offered ) , same thing problem as the OP mentioned, it won't play any discs

I ended up buying another one but it'll be nice to have two ps3's

2 PS3's=Sweeeeet!!!:)

Myrddin

Kenno90 wrote: »

EN , care to fix my old PS3 (Nice Reward Offered ) , same thing problem as the OP mentioned, it won't play any discs

I ended up buying another one but it'll be nice to have two ps3's

It's really really easy...you'd do it yourself. The hardest part is finding proven replacement parts. I was bitten twice by sellers on ebay selling laser units, both were DOA & it becomes a head wrecking exercise.

If you can find proper replacements, I'll talk you through it or help you out if I can...but your guess is as good as mine which lasers are legit & which are cheap Asian knock offs

brian plank

EnterNow wrote: »

It's really really easy...you'd do it yourself. The hardest part is finding proven replacement parts. I was bitten twice by sellers on ebay selling laser units, both were DOA & it becomes a head wrecking exercise.

If you can find proper replacements, I'll talk you through it or help you out if I can...but your guess is as good as mine which lasers are legit & which are cheap Asian knock offs

is there anyone in particular you consider trust worthy? i'm looking for a blu ray drive too.

Myrddin

brian plank wrote: »

is there anyone in particular you consider trust worthy? i'm looking for a blu ray drive too.

Retailer wise? I don't really do PS3 repairs anymore because of rubbish parts...its just a headache. I suppose look on ebay, go through feedback etc & buy from Ireland/UK as opposed to Hong Kong etc. It'll be dearer, but generally the vendors with solid feedback will send you proper parts & be better to deal with in the event of an issue