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What to do with Vehicle Registration Cert. when selling a car

  • 04-06-2012 6:06pm
    #1
    ozt9vdujny3srf
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,152 ✭✭✭


    Hey guys, I'm about to meet someone to sell my car. Who normally does the vehicle registration stuff? Do I sign it and give it to him? If so, how can I be sure he changes the ownership promptly?


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  • #2
    mathepac
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,991 ✭✭✭mathepac


    http://www.askaboutmoney.com/showthread.php?t=120880&highlight=rf101

    HTH


  • #3
    colm_mcm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,520 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    Don't give it to the buyer, they may never send it off, best thing is to have a pre addressed envelope to Shannon ready (it's freepost) and if they do buy it, pop it in the post while the buyer is present. That way there's no doubt on either side.


  • #4
    ozt9vdujny3srf
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,152 ✭✭✭ozt9vdujny3srf


    Cheers for advice. buyer didn't show up. Gives me time to grab that envelope i guess!


  • #5
    galwaytt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,822 ✭✭✭✭galwaytt


    ...you do realise the instructions on what to do are on the back page of the Cert......... ???

    Ode To The Motorist

    “And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, generates funds to the exchequer. You don't want to acknowledge that as truth because, deep down in places you don't talk about at the Green Party, you want me on that road, you need me on that road. We use words like freedom, enjoyment, sport and community. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent instilling those values in our families and loved ones. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the tax revenue and the very freedom to spend it that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise I suggest you pick up a bus pass and get the ********* ********* off the road” 



  • #6
    mathepac
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,991 ✭✭✭mathepac


    I got my wrist slapped on another forum for responding to multiple "what do i do with the RF101?" posts with "read the ******* thing you lazy brainless ****" responses, hence the guide.


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  • #7
    CiniO
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,069 ✭✭✭✭CiniO


    colm_mcm wrote: »
    Don't give it to the buyer, they may never send it off, best thing is to have a pre addressed envelope to Shannon ready (it's freepost) and if they do buy it, pop it in the post while the buyer is present. That way there's no doubt on either side.

    Are you sure about that?


  • #8
    colm_mcm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,520 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    CiniO wrote: »
    Are you sure about that?

    Certain. All government departments have freepost licenses


  • #9
    coylemj
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,620 ✭✭✭✭coylemj


    If the buyer is prepared to hand over the cash I don't think you need to go to the extent of actually posting the cert to Shannon in his presence. The buyer gives you the cash, you hand him the keys of the car and off he goes. It's clearly in the seller's interest at that stage to post away the change of ownership so that he (the seller) doesn't start getting M50 tolls or speeding tickets.

    OP, by all means show the prospective buyer the cert to prove that the vehicle wasn't imported and that you are the registered owner but tell him that you will post it the following day or that afternoon. Putting it in an envelope and bringing him to a post box to prove that you're sending it off is a bit dramatic and unnecessary.

    Unless he plans to visit the buyer's house and steal the car back, a seller has no earthly reason to not post away the change of ownership. The issue that arises is when the seller foolishly hands over the cert and the buyer then doesn't bother his arse posting it. If the seller follows the procedure documented on the back of the cert., it's in his interest to post it straight away once he has the cash in his pocket.


  • #10
    CiniO
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,069 ✭✭✭✭CiniO


    coylemj wrote: »
    If the buyer is prepared to hand over the cash I don't think you need to go to the extent of actually posting the cert to Shannon in his presence. The buyer gives you the cash, you hand him the keys of the car and off he goes. It's clearly in the seller's interest at that stage to post away the change of ownership so that he (the seller) doesn't start getting M50 tolls or speeding tickets.

    OP, by all means show the prospective buyer the cert to prove that the vehicle wasn't imported and that you are the registered owner but tell him that you will post it the following day or that afternoon. Putting it in an envelope and bringing him to a post box to prove that you're sending it off is a bit dramatic and unnecessary.

    Unless he plans to visit the buyer's house and steal the car back, a seller has no earthly reason to not post away the change of ownership. The issue that arises is when the seller foolishly hands over the cert and the buyer then doesn't bother his arse posting it. If the seller follows the procedure documented on the back of the cert., it's in his interest to post it straight away once he has the cash in his pocket.

    No one could agree more that it's in the sellers interest to post it as quickly as possible, but unfortunately some sellers might be bit slacky or just don't be aware of consequences, and therefore don't hurry too much with posting it.
    This however might cause big trouble for buyer.
    Having a car without reg cert makes plenty of limitations.
    Firstly car can't be sold to anyone else.
    Secondly it can't be driven abroad.

    For some people those things might not be that important, while for others they might be crucial.


  • #11
    mathepac
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,991 ✭✭✭mathepac


    It might well be in everybody's interest to read a leaflet entitled "Selling Your Car, Your Obligations" which spells out the obligations of buyers and sellers, private and commercial and which states in part "The law requires that all changes of vehicle ownership must be notified to the Dept. of Transport and the changes recorded on the NVDF, the National Vehicle & Driver File......" and to hand over a copy of the leaflet to the buyer.


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  • #12
    eFlow: John
    Closed Accounts Posts: 121 ✭✭eFlow: John


    Hi all,

    I would like to add to the good advice above.

    I recommend that the seller send the Vehicle Registration document as soon as possible after the sale is made. Also, I recommend that the seller records the time of sale on the document and keep a copy for his/her records.

    It can happen that a new owner brings the vehicle through the M50 Toll after the sale is made. Once the Vehicle Registration document is posted, it can take a few days for the change of ownership to be processed by the Dept. Transport in Shannon, Co. Clare.

    As always, if there anyone has any issues, eFlow can be contacted by phone or via Boards.ie or Twitter.

    Hope this helps,

    John


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