Uninsured driving

romanowski09

Hello.

I am currently in ireland on holiday, i am from estonia. i am staying in dublin but i am in my friends home in kilkenny at this moment, i leave my driver liscence and ticket at house in dublin, so he has spare car which is uninsured and not taxed, i would like to go shopping , which require me to drive this car. if i am stoped by police what will happened? i go back home in 6 days.

Jimdagym

Do not attempt to drive uninsured in this country.

little swift

•Driving without insurance is generally punishable by a fine of up to €2,500, disqualification of one year or more for a first offence and two years or more for a second offence, and, at the discretion of the court, a term of imprisonment not exceeding six months.

•In the case of a first offence of driving without insurance, the court may decide in special cases not to impose a period of disqualification or to impose a period of disqualification of less than a year. Where the court decides not to impose a disqualification, drivers convicted of a first offence of driving without insurance will incur 5 penalty points on their licence record in addition to any other penalty imposed by the court

dutopia

romanowski09 wrote: »

Hello.

I am currently in ireland on holiday, i am from estonia. i am staying in dublin but i am in my friends home in kilkenny at this moment, i leave my driver liscence and ticket at house in dublin, so he has spare car which is uninsured and not taxed, i would like to go shopping , which require me to drive this car. if i am stoped by police what will happened? i go back home in 6 days.

It's illegal and irresponsible to drive uninsured. Don't do it.

romanowski09

Yes but if fine is inposed, and i have to go to court, but i go back home in 6 days. Will it really matter if i am not here. Essentially my question is, will the guarda go through with it all if i am leaving the country in a couple of days?

dillo2k10

romanowski09 wrote: »

Hello.

I am currently in ireland on holiday, i am from estonia. i am staying in dublin but i am in my friends home in kilkenny at this moment, i leave my driver liscence and ticket at house in dublin, so he has spare car which is uninsured and not taxed, i would like to go shopping , which require me to drive this car. if i am stoped by police what will happened? i go back home in 6 days.

Your friend would be charged for allowing you to drive their car which is not insured or taxed.

The car will be taken from you.

If you ever return to Ireland you will be charged. It's could be possible to stop you from leaving the country or brought back because of 'special ' relations between the EU and Ukraine

romanowski09

Yes but if fine is inposed, and i have to go to court, but i go back home in 6 days. Will it really matter if i am not here. Essentially my question is, will the guarda go through with it all if i am leaving the country in a couple of days?

tricky D

Use a taxi or public transport like others would.

dmc17

romanowski09 wrote: »

Yes but if fine is inposed, and i have to go to court, but i go back home in 6 days. Will it really matter if i am not here. Essentially my question is, will the guarda go through with it all if i am leaving the country in a couple of days?

Yeah they'll bring you to court when they catch you and impose a big fine and it'll be an awful lot of trouble for a bit of shopping. Get a taxi!

but43r

To me it sounds like someone is just trolling...

CarrickMcJoe

You seem to be only worried if you are stopped by the guards, what if you hit a child or collide with a car and kill or maim the main breadwinner of a family.
Try thinking of other people instead of yourself and get public transport!

romanowski09

romanowski09 wrote: »

Yes but if fine is inposed, and i have to go to court, but i go back home in 6 days. Will it really matter if i am not here. Essentially my question is, will the guarda go through with it all if i am leaving the country in a couple of days?

Can somebody with concrete knowledge please give me definitive answer?
It is only rural roads where guarda presence is very rare, but in any case i would like strong answer to above question.

ProudDUB

You want help in breaking the law? Eh....no !

juan.kerr

A bit stupid to expect someone here to give you carte blanche to drive illegally here.

I hope you're caught, they realise you plan to leave in a few days and lock you up.

Mycroft H

romanowski09 wrote: »

Can somebody with concrete knowledge please give me definitive answer?
It is only rural roads where guarda presence is very rare, but in any case i would like strong answer to above question.

You could be summonsed to the next sitting of the district court if the Gardai felt like it

but43r

romanowski09 wrote: »

Can somebody with concrete knowledge please give me definitive answer?
It is only rural roads where guarda presence is very rare, but in any case i would like strong answer to above question.

Your English seems to improve with every post. You must be a very quick learner...
Definitely troll.

romanowski09

The question is above if you can read? I do not ask for help braking law, i only ask if an edict will be placed upon me, I ask will the officer who stopped me fine me or require me to attend a court session at a later date, If my departure date is so close to my apprehension.
Do you understand?

CarrickMcJoe

but43r wrote: »

Your English seems to improve with every post. You must be a very quick learner...
Definitely troll.

Quick learner alright.

RandomAccess

Just post your details and we'll have someone meet you at the airport. He'll be wearing a hat.

romanowski09

Unless you would like to answer my question, which is genuine, please stop posting.

CarrickMcJoe

romanowski09 wrote: »

Unless you would like to answer my question, which is genuine, please stop posting.[/QUOTE

IT IS ILLEGAL TO DRIVE WITHOUT INSURANCE IN IRELAND. WOULD YOU DO IT IN YOUR COUNTRY, COMRADE!

romanowski09

CarrickMcJoe wrote: »

Quick learner alright.

This is not the original poster writing, i am the friend which he spoke of in the original question.

lostboy

CarrickMcJoe wrote: »

You seem to be only worried if you are stopped by the guards, what if you hit a child or collide with a car and kill or maim the main breadwinner of a family.
Try thinking of other people instead of yourself and get public transport!

I always hate seeing this as a reason to get insurance, the child will still be dead and the breadwinner will still be maimed for life, no amount of money will fix this and having insurance will not prevent it.



OP. if you are insured in your own country why do you not ask your insurance company are you insured to drive someone elses car abroad.

Marcusm

romanowski09 wrote: »

The question is above if you can read? I do not ask for help braking law, i only ask if an edict will be placed upon me, I ask will the officer who stopped me fine me or require me to attend a court session at a later date, If my departure date is so close to my apprehension.
Do you understand?

I would imagine that as a non resident with little intention to return, you might be dened bail and held pending trial.*





*Highly unlikely but maybe a detterrent

CarrickMcJoe

romanowski09 wrote: »

This is not the original poster writing, i am the friend which he spoke of in the original question.

Oh right, its still against the law, tell him that.

little swift

if your stoped the car will be taking off you , and because your a flight risk you'll be taken to court and be dealth with there and then so you'll have no time to run.

RandomAccess

romanowski09 wrote: »

Unless you would like to answer my question, which is genuine, please stop posting.

I'm pretty sure your question breaches the forums terms of use. Or would cause other users to do so.
http://www.boards.ie/terms/

You agree NOT to use Boards.ie to:

• post Material that promotes or encourages illegal activity

Anybody who answers your question to your liking would breach this term.

CarrickMcJoe

See on ikka ebaseaduslik sõita ilma kindlustuse, siis arreteeriti ja laetud politsei

romanowski09

RandomAccess wrote: »

I'm pretty sure your question breaches the forums terms of use. Or would cause other users to do so.
http://www.boards.ie/terms/

You agree NOT to use Boards.ie to:

• post Material that promotes or encourages illegal activity

Anybody who answers your question to your liking would breach this term.

But the question simply appeals for a rebuttal concerning your country's bylaw. It does not provocate an answer which "promotes.. illegal activity"
I only ask if an edict will be placed upon me, I ask will the officer who stopped me fine me or require me to attend a court session at a later date, Or will this minor offense be overlooked due to the fact that my departure date is so close to my apprehension and it is a first time transgression in the state.
Please quote the part where my question "Breaches the forums terms of use"?
I challenge anyone to give me an educated answer to the above question. Please.

mb1725

Best thing is to call in to local Garda station and ask them, just in case there may be a special diplomatic exemption for yourself that we don't know about.

juan.kerr

I challenge anyone to give me an educated answer to the above question

Perhaps you should call into your local Garda station and ask the desk Sargeant what he thinks?

In fact I'd go so far as to recommend it. It will leave your 'friend' in no doubt.

Thoie

romanowski09 wrote: »

I only ask if an edict will be placed upon me, I ask will the officer who stopped me fine me or require me to attend a court session at a later date, Or will this minor offense be overlooked due to the fact that my departure date is so close to my apprehension and it is a first time transgression in the state.

It is not a minor offense, and it will not be overlooked because you're a tourist. You'll be held in custody until the next court sitting. You will miss your flight home, and if the court decides to "only" impose a fine on you, you will have to pay that, as well as the cost of a new flight.

The car will be taken and impounded until the owner can produce all the correct documents to prove he owns it, it is taxed, insured and NCTd if required. The "holding fee" for the car is approx €120 a day until the paperwork is supplied, and if it transpires the car was not taxed, for example, the owner will also be fined and receive penalty points for that as well.

Walk.

romanowski09

Thoie wrote: »

It is not a minor offense, and it will not be overlooked because you're a tourist. You'll be held in custody until the next court sitting. You will miss your flight home, and if the court decides to "only" impose a fine on you, you will have to pay that, as well as the cost of a new flight.

The car will be taken and impounded until the owner can produce all the correct documents to prove he owns it, it is taxed, insured and NCTd if required. The "holding fee" for the car is approx €120 a day until the paperwork is supplied, and if it transpires the car was not taxed, for example, the owner will also be fined and receive penalty points for that as well.

Walk.

And this is definitive? This will indubitably be the outcome if my friend attempts to drive under the described circumstances?

Our man in Havana

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