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French derby

  • 03-06-2012 12:42pm
    #1
    TheMilkyPirate
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    Who do you all fancy today? I'm on Imperial monarch myself, Was impressed with him the last day and Thought worthy hasn't done the form any harm. Also O'Brien is all conquering at the moment


Comments

  • #2
    mdwexford
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    Is it on tv apart from atr?


  • #3
    NaiveMelodies
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    Joke of a race!


  • #4
    kksaints
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    Who won?


  • #5
    MoscowFlyer
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    Photograph - Inquiry

    ATR website


  • #6
    tryfix
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    only1stevo wrote: »
    Joke of a race!
    Exactly. It used to be one of the best races for a champion 3yo 1m 4f horse to run in. Now it's a rough scramble to the line for a mixture of milers, 10f and 12f horses. Neither fish or fowl, it's a shadow of its former self.

    Before the change in distance in 2005, it was a regular supplier of Arc winners.

    1991 Suave Dancer 1st Prix de l'Arc de Triomphe rated 136
    1992 Polytain
    1993 Hernando rated 127
    1994 Celtic Arms
    1995 Celtic Swing
    1996 Ragmar
    1997 Peintre Celebre 1st Prix de l'Arc de Triomphe rated 137
    1998 Dream Well
    1999 Montjeu 1st Prix de l'Arc de Triomphe rated 135
    2000 Holding Court
    2001 Anabaa Blue
    2002 Sulamani rated 125
    2003 Dalakhani 1st Prix de l'Arc de Triomphe rated 132
    2004 Blue Canari rated 116



    After the change a few good 10f horses came out of it but nowhere near the class of the old winners.

    2005 Shamardal rated 125
    2006 Darsi rated 116
    2007 Lawman rated 120
    2008 Vision d'Etat rated 122
    2009 Le Havre rated 120
    2010 Lope de Vega rated 124
    2011 Reliable Man rated 122
    2012 Saonois

    A consistent drop into the low 120s for the winners.


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