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china boom to bust(back to rice fields)

  • 03-06-2012 11:35am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 650 ✭✭✭


    with europe,uk and america not buying...what is driving china (credit?) and when it calls in usa debt will america return an equal value of what it borrowed....................and 6 aircraft carriers in pacific.................I THINK this is the only question to ask when investing now....................and how strong will this balance make the euro


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,334 ✭✭✭OfflerCrocGod


    Incoherent sentences....frequently broken up with....unnecessary extended ellipsis....and random bolding of words. Suggest clarifying.....post before submitting. euro


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 650 ✭✭✭euroboom13


    • With America ,United Kingdom and Europe in crisis and importing alot less of China`s cheap exports ,what is driving china`s growth?
    • Is china overdue a massive slump?
    • How well this situation affect all of its Usa dollar$ debt.....well they flood the market with american debt.
    • if so, it should seriously effect America`s borrowing power?
    • Isn`t the euro turning the corner at the perfect time to take up the role as safe haven?
    I dont believe the euro will collapse!
    I believe it will return to stronge growth shortly.
    I believe ,all major global investments in the next 10 yrs will come to europe.
    I wouldn`t put any money in china,oz,india or usa for another decade.

    just want people to clarify how mad they think i am,for the record!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 625 ✭✭✭yermanoffthetv


    Well China is heading for a property crash of its own and it makes our problem with "ghost estates" seem trivial in comparison, how about entire "ghost cities" :eek:

    http://news.sky.com/home/world-news/article/16117228


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 650 ✭✭✭euroboom13




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 260 ✭✭Franticfrank


    Pfft, its a little bit of a slowdown but the Chinese are still doing ok. One or two statistics show the GDP growth is still ok this year. If the arse falls right out of the housing sector, then people should really worry.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 96 ✭✭bull_ring


    euroboom13 wrote: »
    • With America ,United Kingdom and Europe in crisis and importing alot less of China`s cheap exports ,what is driving china`s growth?
    • Is china overdue a massive slump?
    • How well this situation affect all of its Usa dollar$ debt.....well they flood the market with american debt.
    • if so, it should seriously effect America`s borrowing power?
    • Isn`t the euro turning the corner at the perfect time to take up the role as safe haven?
    I dont believe the euro will collapse!
    I believe it will return to stronge growth shortly.
    I believe ,all major global investments in the next 10 yrs will come to europe.
    I wouldn`t put any money in china,oz,india or usa for another decade.

    just want people to clarify how mad they think i am,for the record!


    the usa doesnt want the euro to collapse for economic reasons so it wont

    china doesnt want the euro to collapse for economic and political reasons ( it wants a rival to the dollar ) so it wont collapse

    if things get really dangerous in europe , china will buy euros like their is no tommorrow


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 96 ✭✭bull_ring


    euroboom13 wrote: »
    • With America ,United Kingdom and Europe in crisis and importing alot less of China`s cheap exports ,what is driving china`s growth?
    • Is china overdue a massive slump?
    • How well this situation affect all of its Usa dollar$ debt.....well they flood the market with american debt.
    • if so, it should seriously effect America`s borrowing power?
    • Isn`t the euro turning the corner at the perfect time to take up the role as safe haven?
    I dont believe the euro will collapse!
    I believe it will return to stronge growth shortly.
    I believe ,all major global investments in the next 10 yrs will come to europe.
    I wouldn`t put any money in china,oz,india or usa for another decade.

    just want people to clarify how mad they think i am,for the record!


    the usa is clearly the safe haven in the short term and besides ,even main st america is on the wean , american companies still dominate globally and will continue to do so regardless of whats happening domestically


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 650 ✭✭✭euroboom13


    bull_ring wrote: »
    the usa is clearly the safe haven in the short term and besides ,even main st america is on the wean , american companies still dominate globally and will continue to do so regardless of whats happening domestically



    http://video.ft.com/v/1655932538001/Uber-bear-sees-value-in-Europe

    Not to confident bout USA here....(two decade slide)
    Are the days of $ backing are over ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 625 ✭✭✭yermanoffthetv


    Pfft, its a little bit of a slowdown but the Chinese are still doing ok. One or two statistics show the GDP growth is still ok this year. If the arse falls right out of the housing sector, then people should really worry.

    You do know that its the building of these "ghost cities" that is artificially inflating GDP figures? Targets are met reguardless of demand actually being there. 8.0% growth rates? Thats an insanely high figure, Ireland at the height of the tiger was around 6.0% where is that demand coming from because its not domestic consumption and foreign exports are stable but not growing.

    Time to start buying precious metals ;)


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,827 ✭✭✭christmas2012


    china bust already :eek:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 650 ✭✭✭euroboom13


    first rate drop since 2008(central bank china)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 650 ✭✭✭euroboom13


    euroboom13 wrote: »
    first rate drop since 2008(central bank china)

    http://www.ftchinese.com/story/001044962/en/?print=y

    European investors moving out of safe havens...:cool:


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