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NEW roof on old shed.Advice re build height.

  • 02-06-2012 6:02pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,184 ✭✭✭


    Would i need planning permission to put a new roof tiled, on an old shed,
    its 6ft wide,x 12ft long.ONE side wall is 8ft high.IF the roof is inclined up,rising say 2ft, rising away from side wall ,
    so it would be at highest point 2ft higher than side wall,
    would i need planning permission.

    IF i just build a flat roof,slightly under side wall height ,
    would that be exempt from planning permission.
    The shed is pre 63 ,90 per cent of the old roof is gone.
    NEW roof would be about 6ft wide.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,547 ✭✭✭✭Poor Uncle Tom


    riclad wrote: »
    Would i need planning permission to put a new roof tiled, on an old shed,
    its 6ft wide,x 12ft long.ONE side wall is 8ft high.IF the roof is inclined up,rising say 2ft, rising away from side wall ,
    so it would be at highest point 2ft higher than side wall,
    would i need planning permission.

    IF i just build a flat roof,slightly under side wall height ,
    would that be exempt from planning permission.
    The shed is pre 63 ,90 per cent of the old roof is gone.
    NEW roof would be about 6ft wide.
    Whether you need planning or not depends on a few issues;

    1. If the shed is for domestic, commercial or agricultural purposes.

    2. If it is for domestic purposes it must comply with the following
    1. No such structure shall be constructed, erected or placed forward of the front wall of a house.

    2. The total area of such structures constructed, erected or placed within the curtilage of a house shall not, taken together with any other such structures previously constructed, erected or placed within the said curtilage, exceed 25 square metres.

    3. The construction, erection or placing within the curtilage of a house of any such structure shall not reduce the amount of private open space reserved exclusively for the use of the occupants of the house to the rear or to the side of the house to less than 25 square metres.

    4. The external finishes of any garage or other structure constructed, erected or placed to the side of a house, and the roof covering where any such structure has a tiled or slated roof, shall conform with those of the house.

    5. The height of any such structure shall not exceed, in the case of a building with a tiled or slated pitched roof, 4 metres or, in any other case, 3 metres.

    6. The structure shall not be used for human habitation or for the keeping of pigs, poultry, pigeons, ponies or horses, or for any other purpose other than a purpose incidental to the enjoyment of the house as such.
    otherwiae it may need planning permission.

    3. What was the old roof covering? Are you replacing like for like?

    Realistically you need a good local professional to visit and comment on the structure specifically, as the detail you provided is not even close to being enough to make a call on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,184 ✭✭✭riclad


    The shed is made of concrete,has 3 walls, all i can see
    is abit of lead flashing.both ends.
    ie its 50 plus years old, i presume front wall was made of wood.
    all i,ll be doing is putting on a roof ,tiled .and 1door,
    and the front wall will be made of wood.
    its pre 63, doesnt need planning permission.
    I,M Thinking of building a front wall, and a new roof
    its at the rear of house ,surrounded by walls, on 3 sides.

    i,m just wondering will i need planning permission ,
    if i put on roof that inclines up to say 11ft,
    shed wall on the inside, are 9ft .
    the high part of the roof,apex,11ft would be facing
    away from my neighbour ,ie inwards to the east, my neighbours wall is to the east.
    ,ie neighbours wall is 9ft high.

    one wall of the shed,east, is the shared,boundary wall,
    between me and my neighbour.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,184 ✭✭✭riclad


    it seems the old roof was tiles, but all thats left ,is lead flashing,
    so i cant be sure, since the shed is at the rear, does it matter what material i use for roof, since ,ill be likely selling house next year.
    the right end, of the shed was an outside,toilet,
    ie the pipes are still there, plus a large metal,water,container, 3x1 ft approx.

    I kinow if i just put on a flat roof,slightly lower than boundary wall ,i wont need planning permission.
    i,m just putting roof, and front wall on pre 63 shed,
    so i dont think 25metre,
    rule applys to me.
    the rear kitchen extension, was built around ,1940 .
    ie anything built before 63, no planning permission needed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,184 ✭✭✭riclad


    I looked closer ,and noticed part of the original roof,
    its standard metal, as used on old sheds ,farm buildings.ie no tiles ,
    like this,
    http://arignagardener.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/0092.jpg
    its about 4 inches under boundary wall.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 55 ✭✭paddym3


    re roof your entilitled to make it water tight and safe from any one climbing and falling thru.


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