household charge in waterford. money well spent!

Smiley Burnett

For those of you who kept asking the question "what do I get for my €100??", yesterday's events in kilbarry should go some of the way to explaining it. Well done to the city council!!! P.s. those people who encouraged people not to pay are quiet enough when you point to projects like this:rolleyes:

mike65

Ah come on now the Kilbarry project has been under way for years!

Maintaining it to a decent level of visitor friendliness is what the 100 euro will go towards though.

abouttobebanned

I fcuking hate that rolleyes smiley. There's no better and faster way to tell people you're a smug cnut.

ex_infantry man

go way the people of waterford have been contributing towards that "dump" for years why should they pay anymore for it???

MitchKoobski

Myself and Mike are sick of looking out the window at a dump for the last 20 years. Now we have a nice park to look at. Gimme all your monies so we can keep it looking nice.

BazBox

Smiley Burnett wrote: »

For those of you who kept asking the question "what do I get for my €100??", yesterday's events in kilbarry should go some of the way to explaining it. Well done to the city council!!! P.s. those people who encouraged people not to pay are quiet enough when you point to projects like this:rolleyes:

Were you really expecting everyone to agree with this tripe???

Potential-Monke

Smiley Burnett wrote: »

For those of you who kept asking the question "what do I get for my €100??", yesterday's events in kilbarry should go some of the way to explaining it. Well done to the city council!!! P.s. those people who encouraged people not to pay are quiet enough when you point to projects like this:rolleyes:

But thats nowhere near me and i don't ever drive past it. So where's my money helping me? (Not that i paid it...)

Smiley Burnett

BazBox wrote: »

Were you really expecting everyone to agree with this tripe???

I'm just reminding ye that the council does good work too!!! People are very quick to criticise and slow to give credit when it's due!!

Royal Legend

Smiley Burnett wrote: »

I'm just reminding ye that the council does good work too!!! People are very quick to criticise and slow to give credit when it's due!!

Pardon me, I thought that a builder developed the park not the council? There was no sign of 10 men standing around a hole with a guy on a digger reading the paper for the day as far as I am aware.

And how you honestly think that your €100 service charge went towards this I will never know. I think that you may be a bit gullible.

gscully

Smiley Burnett wrote: »

I'm just reminding ye that the council does good work too!!! People are very quick to criticise and slow to give credit when it's due!!

The same council who opposed the household charge? Have a quiet word with yourself.

nkay1985

abouttobebanned wrote: »

I fcuking hate that rolleyes smiley. There's no better and faster way to tell people you're a smug cnut.

But, for that exact reason, it's very useful!

Smiley Burnett

gscully wrote: »

The same council who opposed the household charge? Have a quiet word with yourself.

Opposed it???!! It didn't stop them collecting it!

Smiley Burnett

Royal Legend wrote: »

Pardon me, I thought that a builder developed the park not the council? There was no sign of 10 men standing around a hole with a guy on a digger reading the paper for the day as far as I am aware.

And how you honestly think that your €100 service charge went towards this I will never know. I think that you may be a bit gullible.

Jesus wept!!!!!! 100 euro went to council. Council then spent it on public services such as new park. Is that beyond you????!
Who do you think paid the builder???? :rolleyes:

mikom

Smiley Burnett wrote: »

Jesus wept!!!!!! 100 euro went to council. Council then spent it on public services such as new park. Is that beyond you????!
Who do you think paid the builder???? :rolleyes:

Nothing went to the councils yet........... but thousands have been taken away already.

As if the household charge muck is for this sort of stuff anyway.....

Smiley Burnett

mikom wrote: »

Nothing went to the councils yet........... but thousands have been taken away already.

As if the household charge muck is for this sort of stuff anyway.....

It is precisely to fund local councils and the many services and facilities that they provide!!!

AdMMM

nkay1985 wrote: »

But, for that exact reason, it's very useful!

:rolleyes:



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mikom

Smiley Burnett wrote: »

It is precisely to fund local councils and the many services and facilities that they provide!!!

You owe Hans 10 Euro.
You take 10 Euro from the tea kitty and give it to Hans.
Even though I have already contributed to the tea kitty, you come along and ask me for 10 Euro on top of what I have already contributed.
Now tell me....... what is the 10 Euro you demanded paying for?

Smiley Burnett

mikom wrote: »

You owe Hans 10 Euro.
You take 10 Euro from the tea kitty and give it to Hans.
Even though I have already contributed to the tea kitty, you come along and ask me for 10 Euro on top of what I have already contributed.
Now tell me....... what is the 10 Euro you demanded paying for?

Ffs!!! The answer is obvious---- TEA!!;)

mikom

Smiley Burnett wrote: »

Ffs!!! The answer is obvious---- TEA!!;)

Tea for two by the looks of it...

longshanks

MitchKoobski wrote: »

Myself and Mike are sick of looking out the window at a dump for the last 20 years. Now we have a nice park to look at. Gimme all your monies so we can keep it looking nice.

You and Mike live together?
I did not know this.
Are ye two a couple?
Am I the only one who didn't know this?

jayboi

longshanks wrote: »

You and Mike live together?
I did not know this.
Are ye two a couple?
Am I the only one who didn't know this?

I always had my suspicions, they do make a lovely couple tho.

mike65

MitchKoobski makes a grand first cuppa tea of the day you know!

/he has me doing the ironing

Cabaal

Smiley Burnett wrote: »

For those of you who kept asking the question "what do I get for my €100??", yesterday's events in kilbarry should go some of the way to explaining it.

Right so a part that has been in the making for agesssss got refunding say 12-24months ago from a scheme that only had payments made in April 2012. Amazing that

Well done to the city council!!! P.s. those people who encouraged people not to pay are quiet enough when you point to projects like this:rolleyes:

The park is nice I'm sure but to be honest your talking out your behind to think it was in anyway funded by the household charge scheme

Black Suir

Smiley Burnett wrote: »

For those of you who kept asking the question "what do I get for my €100??", yesterday's events in kilbarry should go some of the way to explaining it. Well done to the city council!!! P.s. those people who encouraged people not to pay are quiet enough when you point to projects like this:rolleyes:

And those that live well away from Kilbarry or any similar parks in Dungarvan, what do they get. I will tell you sweet F all. I saw a man recently doing some building work at his house, and when he was finished, with some cement he had left over, went out on the road and filled some of the pot wholes which the council are not filling and have driven over many times every week with since the bad weather we got at the end of 2010 and early 2011. There is also a stretch of road near me, which has four water leaks on it with a few weeks and are getting worse by the day. Again the council lorry with two or three men are driving past them on a regular basis.

Black Suir

Smiley Burnett wrote: »

For those of you who kept asking the question "what do I get for my €100??", yesterday's events in kilbarry should go some of the way to explaining it. Well done to the city council!!! P.s. those people who encouraged people not to pay are quiet enough when you point to projects like this:rolleyes:

And what about all the €100's that the council spend foolish each year, often to send councillors and employees off on stupid junkets that we never see any good come out of.

DonFred

And dont forget the mess of the Quay beside the GPO!!!

Finnbar01

Smiley Burnett wrote: »

For those of you who kept asking the question "what do I get for my €100??", yesterday's events in kilbarry should go some of the way to explaining it. Well done to the city council!!! P.s. those people who encouraged people not to pay are quiet enough when you point to projects like this:rolleyes:

The household charge is collected to pay councillors their fantastic salaries and gold plated pensions.

mike65

Cynicism only works if its based in truth.

Smiley Burnett

Finnbar01 wrote: »

The household charge is collected to pay councillors their fantastic salaries and gold plated pensions.

Gold plated pensions for councillors??!!!! That's a good one!!:D:D:D:D

Finnbar01

Smiley Burnett wrote: »

Gold plated pensions for councillors??!!!! That's a good one!!:D:D:D:D

It sure is, considering that your €100 euro is going to pay towards it. It's also guaranteed. Unlike yours, unless you yourself are working in the public sector.

Here's a handy way to save money. We have over 1600 councillours in this country. We could easily ditch two thirds of them.

Smiley Burnett

Finnbar01 wrote: »

It sure is, considering that your €100 euro is going to pay towards it. It's also guaranteed. Unlike yours, unless you yourself are working in the public sector.

Here's a handy way to save money. We have over 1600 councillours in this country. We could easily ditch two thirds of them.

I had to be the one to break it to you, but councillors do not receive a pension of any description!!!

Hoffmans

think the op ,is slightly gullible the dump park scheme has separate funding, if it had'nt it simply wouldnt have be done...

as for household charge failure they have still only collected 58-63% of it similar to the yes vote in the referendum , leaving well over half a million people standing up to the failed austerity programme being imposed on the lower earners...

Finnbar01

Smiley Burnett wrote: »

I had to be the one to break it to you, but councillors do not receive a pension of any description!!!

Local government costs us €10 billion per year.

That is simply unsustainable. We cannot afford it.

Cut backs please.

Black Suir

Smiley Burnett wrote: »

I had to be the one to break it to you, but councillors do not receive a pension of any description!!!

They pick up plenty of perks in other ways. It was not so long ago within Waterford County Council that the FG and Lab members who control the council tried to pick up all the different committee positions as was possible between them. Was it Sinn Fein's Brendan Manasfield that got it stopped.

Smiley Burnett

Black Suir wrote: »

They pick up plenty of perks in other ways. It was not so long ago within Waterford County Council that the FG and Lab members who control the council tried to pick up all the different committee positions as was possible between them. Was it Sinn Fein's Brendan Manasfield that got it stopped.

Fianna fail were decimated in local elections but sinn fein formed a voting pact with fianna fail thereby ensuring that ff members continued to serve on various committees.

Black Suir

Smiley Burnett wrote: »

Fianna fail were decimated in local elections but sinn fein formed a voting pact with fianna fail thereby ensuring that ff members continued to serve on various committees.

Fianna Fail had suffered heavy losses in Co Waterford before the last local elections. Fine Gael and Labour have held power in the COunty since 2004. What they tried to do after the last election was a stunt, Jobs for the boys and all that, just as FF did many years ealier. Problem was some of there members were too thick and thought they would get away with such a move.

christmas2012

where did the councils get their money before the 100 household charge?this is a stealth tax for the debt the banks,city developers,and politicians got us in..

Kotek Besar

I thought the council were using the household charge money to do-up the Bilberry travellers' site. You know, to make the site feel more like a household, 'cause the cream crackers paid the household charge and all..

christmas2012

There using that money to do up a travellers site,dont they get enough off of the council themselves,with free water and free rubbish services(were certainly not getting them) along with the gaffs they provide them with?
Back in the nineteen seventies i was reading they had a household charge,which included you rubbish and water being done.
Whats included in the household charge now?Its a pure stealth tax,there saying they are doing something with the money,but the council got payed through our tax system before,let me remind you that this is an addtional tax.

dark crystal

Smiley Burnett wrote: »

I had to be the one to break it to you, but councillors do not receive a pension of any description!!!

Really?

http://www.waterford-news.ie/news/mhkfojmhey/

The 'retirement scheme' introduced in 1989 gives councillors a great golden handshake when they either retire or fail to be re-elected. Nice work if you can get it!