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Vaadin

  • 01-06-2012 09:25AM
    #1
    allycavs
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 300 ✭✭


    Hi Guys

    Has anyone worked with this before? In work I have been asked to revamp a website using it. I have never heard of it and wonder is it any good

    Thanks
    Alan


Comments

  • #2
    Feathers
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,082 ✭✭✭Feathers


    Had a presentation on it in work from a guy who really likes it. Seems good in terms of good linkage between beans & front-end. Depends on your skill-set though.

    If you're a Java dev looking for a quick way to give your app a web UI, I'd say go for it. Wearing my front-end dev. hat though, I'm never a fan of auto-generated HTML — always seems a bit dirty. :)


  • #3
    garyleeson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3 ✭garyleeson


    Vaadin is very good if you are a Java developer and have developed a number of swing app using the Eclipse IDE's and want to produce a web 2.0/ajax kind of app at speed. If you are coming from a HTML world with little Java knowledge then you are going to have a long learning curve. Personally I like Vaadin and its brother GWT a lot in comparison to the likes of JSP and JSF.

    However when it comes down to it - what are you trying to do that is important. What Kind of website - electronic commerce, blog etc. Once we have this kind of information we maybe able to help a lot more.


  • #4
    allycavs
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 300 ✭✭allycavs


    Well guys im a java developer. my current company only do Swing GUIS but now need to develop a reporting tool that will be web based.

    my own backround is web technologies such as jsp struts and jquery but purely from a easy cross over perspective we will be pushing ahead with vaadin as most of the developers have little to no web based experience. i just read the vaadin website and a pdf on their website. im guessing you still have to write all the css style sheets?

    im not fan of using vaadin just because i feel this is a cross over platform to ease swing developers into web sites. i feel i will hit problems and limitations because of this. instead of biting the bullet and doing "pure" web technologies


  • #5
    garyleeson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3 ✭garyleeson


    There is very little in "pure" web technology unless you just only use HTML and CSS - dynamic stuff such as Ajax are all just a "fudge" to get client/server communication other than the usual post/create/get/delete of the web spec and produce more "dynamic" GUI's. JSP/Struts/Wicket/velocity/freemarker et al are all just request-response handlers with a templating/rendering engine - which puts them in your Vaadin/GWT "impure" bucket.

    Anyway I digress; Yes at the lowest level customizing is look and feel is based around style sheets; Personally "theming" as it is called is the weakest part of Vaadin. Its consistent, but not a flexible as I would like.


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