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Garage Do I Need Planning?

  • 31-05-2012 9:12pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18


    I'm thinking about putting up a shed/garage. it would be about 10 meters by 9 meters.
    the plan would be concrete basc and a steel frame. metal cladding walls and roof, with roof lights and a roller door and a personal door too.
    the question is as its a "temporay" structure do I need to apply for planning.
    Now I know that a block build garage is a better but I have a difficult neighbour will object! she objects to everything or complains or reports. now I have not had any runs in with her myself. but she has a reputation precedes her.
    just to give you an example she reported a farmer for spreading slurry durning a shower of rain tuesday evening, she rang the gardai when her chickens when missing and claimed that two neighbours had been plotting to murder them! blink.gif

    so can i fore go the planning?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,046 ✭✭✭archtech


    Yes you will need planning permission. You are only permitted to construct a garage/shed upto a maximum ssize f 25 sq. without planning permission subject to complying with a number of requirements. See Guidance document published by the Department of Environment


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18 gin soaked


    thanks for the info, in that case I'd be as well going down the planning route and blocked garage


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46,607 ✭✭✭✭muffler


    Type of construction or materials used will be up to yourself (subject to planners agreeing) but as advised you do need PP.

    Your neighbour will need to have valid grounds for objecting.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18 gin soaked


    muffler wrote: »
    Type of construction or materials used will be up to yourself (subject to planners agreeing) but as advised you do need PP.

    Your neighbour will need to have valid grounds for objecting.


    she's good at finding stuff a guy tried to build a house across the road from her, she objected on the grounds that he was "not ruraly generated" which means your a blow in I don't want you in my parish.
    the planning got turned down, he was a nice chap that just didn't want to raise his kid in town.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,098 ✭✭✭rayjdav


    gin soaked wrote: »
    I'm thinking about putting up a shed/garage. it would be about 10 meters by 9 meters.
    the plan would be concrete basc and a steel frame. metal cladding walls and roof, with roof lights and a roller door and a personal door too.
    the question is as its a "temporay" structure do I need to apply for planning......

    Where is this coming from, ie temporary? I see a lot of this phrase being used here more frequently. The garage you describe cannot be described as temporary, the 90sqm aside, or am I missing somehting in a new reg????

    Gin Soaked, this is not directed to you alone but general to a lot of posters.. It has popped up a lot that poster believe their Personal domestic garage is a temporary structure, with the size usually far exceeding the exemptions for such works.

    Also, no matter what your neighbour objects to or not is irrelevant, becasue, as Muffler states, they must be valid reasons, as if they are vexacious, the coco will just ignore them, so it was not her who got your man's planning refused, it was his lack of compliance with rural needs or whatever was stated as the actual reason for refusal.

    Think I will just get back into bed and get out the other side


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18 gin soaked


    from H2 engineerings website....
    ""Do H2 sheds require planning permission?
    Most of our smaller buildings don't require planning permission, however some of our larger buildings may. We are the only shed company in Ireland with an engineer’s certification that meets building control specification BS 5950/2000"

    form vagdrivers website where I posted the same thread....

    in the process of building one myself and have the same problem as you wink.gif

    concrete floor, and shed must be bolted to it floor, pillers cant be sunk into the concrete, and only one "add on" shed per house .. ie you cant build a "new" shed each year. ill get you the max sizes tomorrow. i think you are limited to a max height too. as far as i recall its not that big i think its about the size of 2 cars


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46,607 ✭✭✭✭muffler


    The bottom line here is that you need planning permission for the shed and this has been stated over and over in this thread.

    archtech posted a link above which will give you the basic details of the size of a shed you can build without planning permission.


  • Subscribers Posts: 42,312 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    gin soaked wrote: »
    from H2 engineerings website....
    ""Do H2 sheds require planning permission?
    Most of our smaller buildings don't require planning permission, however some of our larger buildings may. We are the only shed company in Ireland with an engineer’s certification that meets building control specification BS 5950/2000"

    form vagdrivers website where I posted the same thread....

    in the process of building one myself and have the same problem as you wink.gif

    concrete floor, and shed must be bolted to it floor, pillers cant be sunk into the concrete, and only one "add on" shed per house .. ie you cant build a "new" shed each year. ill get you the max sizes tomorrow. i think you are limited to a max height too. as far as i recall its not that big i think its about the size of 2 cars

    just to clarify for you... and that company.

    there is NO exemption for any 'temporary' structure.
    the requirements for exemption of a shed are as has already been stated.

    in fact if you keep a caravan behind your house for more than 9 months... it requires permission.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,064 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    sydthebeat wrote: »
    ]

    just to clarify for you... and that company.

    there is NO exemption for any 'temporary' structure.
    the requirements for exemption of a shed are as has already been stated.

    in fact if you keep a caravan behind your house for more than 9 months... it requires permission.
    I don't see where that company referred to temporary.
    They say smaller/larger. Which I'd assume refers to the 25sq.m threshold.

    OP you need planning. Don't worry about the neighbour. Objections for silly reasons mean little.


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