Chased by Dog........

neilr4

Got chased by a dog yesterday and almost crashed whilst descending at 50 kph........... decided to ring the owners doorbell and asked 'nicely' if it was maybe possible that he restrained the animal before somebody gets hurt? I was first told that I must have 'done something' to cause the dog to chase me and try to bite my leg! When I told the owner that I would never hurt an animal he informed me that his dog 'wouldn't do such a thing unprovoked!' I also informed him that I was only bringing it to his attention as someone could get seriously hurt and that he 'could' be held responsible, he replied that the road was public and the behaviour of his dog outside of his property was NOT his responsibility........then he told me to f**k off and get off his property or he would set the dog on me!! The whole time I remained polite without coming across as a smartass cyclist.......

IF I had've been knocked off my bike by his dog where would I stand from a legal perspective! Apart from being insulted by such an ignoramous what pissed me off is that I was only trying to be bloody civil about the whole thing :mad::eek:

Any opinions/experiences with this sort of thing?

N.

Mycroft H

Zefal frame pump is a good weapon against dogs.


After that, your best bet is to talk to the dog warden. They take complaints like this quite seriously.

neilr4

I would prefer to use the pump on the owner not the dog.......

Cookie_Monster

The dog is ALWAYS his responsibility regardless of where it is and allowing it to roam around unsupervised and uncontrolled is against the law.

Report them as said above, its the only way they'll learn to take responsibility for their animals.

Jawgap

^^^^^What he said.

Report it to the local dog warden who will go have a word and remind them of their legal obligaiton to keep the dog on their property or under their control at all times.

piston

I actually did get bitten quite badly on the leg last year by a dog. It wasn't the first time I had been chased by this dog (Alsatian). I went to the house where the dog had come from and knocked on the door but got absolutely no response but I was fairly certain there was someone in as I could see the curtains move but there were no windows open so it wasn't a draft.

The fact that the dog owner wouldn't even open the door to me made angry and I reported it to the Guards the next day who passed it on to the dog warden. I had assumed the dog would have to be put down but it wasn't the case as the dog warden phoned me to tell me that the owner had promised to keep it under control in future. I stopped cycling past that particular house.

kneemos

The way to stop a dog chasing is to stop.Great fun for an Alstation to chase you at 50kph.I know you might be wary but what i do is let a shout at them, stop and turn to chase them back normally they run back with thier tails between their legs.Small ones are just hilarious.

Lumen

kneemos wrote: »

The way to stop a dog chasing is to kill it

Fixed that for you.

Jawgap

kneemos wrote: »

.........normally they run back with thier tails between their legs.Small ones are just hilarious.

....and if they don't?

Palytoxin

I live on a small country road, and I met this woman who was out walking her dog. She had let it out on the lead a bit too far, so when I came along and slowed down, she had to start grabbing the lead to pull it in, she had it pulled up over her head with with her arms straight up in the air to try to keep the dog back, then as I was just gone past, the dog made a jump for me, pulled the slack of the lead from her hands, got me with one tooth and ripped a hole in my jeans. I didn't really mind because they were a pair of jeans from tesco I got for €4 for on the farm, and I could still wear them, but an inch or two closer and he would have been into the calf.

seamus

That reminds me of the Mount Leinster Challenge. Hammering along in a big group, 40+, a collie comes running out onto the road barking his head off, and in response he gets about twenty guys shouting back at him all at once. Poor little bastard didn't know what hit him, bolted back into the garden.

As kneemos says, the easiest way to stop this is to stop the bike. The dog is chasing you because (from its perspective) you're running away in fear.
If the owner refuses to take responsibility, then make a complaint to the local warden. The Gardai are unlikely to do anything.

I am a dog owner and think you should deffo go to the Dog Warden. Everytime you pass the house and the Dog is loose on the public footpath or road, report it again - even if the Dog is not chasing you.
The guy is irresponsible and does not deserve to own a dog.

neilr4

BX 19 wrote: »

After that, your best bet is to talk to the dog warden. They take complaints like this quite seriously.

Took your advice and contacted the dog warden. He too was very surprised at the owner's attitude towards me, he'll be calling to the house early next week.

N.

slarkin123

What a lovely attitude the dog owner has. Afaik it's against the law to let your dog wander around the streets. I would definitely be reporting him to the warden. As for the chase being provoked - what a load of ****e. Some dogs like to chase moving objects. There's one in my estate that likes to get very close to the wheels of any car passing. Im surprised he hasn't been run over yet.

kneemos

Jawgap wrote: »

....and if they don't?

I'll have to let you know it has'nt happened yet.There's always one right.I do know that if a dog is about to attack you should just turn your back on him totally confuses the dog, tried it once dog was on a lead but it seemed to work.

squeaky crank

kneemos wrote: »

The way to stop a dog chasing is to stop.Great fun for an Alstation to chase you at 50kph.I know you might be wary but what i do is let a shout at them, stop and turn to chase them back normally they run back with thier tails between their legs.Small ones are just hilarious.

I think the OP was more worried about crashing at 50kph than taking the dog on - If a dog bolts out in front of you when you are descending at speed you instinctively react - then your problem is not the dog anymore its the telegraph pole or the oncoming car!

C-Shore

Maybe this is a bit sensationalist?

He just wanted to join you!

ThisRegard

Pfff, whimps complaining about little dogs chasing you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8uP-dxllKQ

lennymc

i was on a cycle last year, and rolling along about 3 - 5 feet behind another cyclist, when all of a sudden a dog ran out in front of him. He hit the dog with his front wheel, and went down hard (luckily we were on an organised spin and there were trained paramedics on the scene in minutes - he made a full recovery). Im a dog person, (i have two) but i think anyone who lets any dog out without a lead is hugely irresponsible and deserves a kick in the hole.

tomasrojo

Originally Posted by kneemos
The way to stop a dog chasing is to kill it

Lumen wrote: »

Fixed that for you.

You are Richard Ballantine, and I claim my cash prize.
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=74538649&postcount=10

neilr4

ThisRegard wrote: »

Pfff, whimps complaining about little dogs chasing you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8uP-dxllKQ

Hahaaaa yeah that came to mind alright

studiorat

I thought all cyclists carried bananas for this very purpose? That's what I've done, but it probably only encourages them.

I don't mind the little ones jumping out in-front of you so much. With about 16Kg of full susser and 6 " travel you hardly notice.

shaungil

Sounds rough......

amjon.

piston wrote: »

I actually did get bitten quite badly on the leg last year by a dog. It wasn't the first time I had been chased by this dog (Alsatian). I went to the house where the dog had come from and knocked on the door but got absolutely no response but I was fairly certain there was someone in as I could see the curtains move but there were no windows open so it wasn't a draft.

The fact that the dog owner wouldn't even open the door to me made angry and I reported it to the Guards the next day who passed it on to the dog warden. I had assumed the dog would have to be put down but it wasn't the case as the dog warden phoned me to tell me that the owner had promised to keep it under control in future. I stopped cycling past that particular house.

I can assure you that if that had happened to me that dog would no longer be alive.

SomeFool

Blast of the water bottle usually works if you can react fast enough.

seamus

amjon. wrote: »

I can assure you that if that had happened to me that dog would no longer be alive.

Yeah, that'll learn that durn dawg for daring to act like a dog!

Hungrycol

Do you think a dogs bite would pierce a CO2 cannister?! :eek:

RobertFoster

studiorat wrote: »

I don't mind the little ones jumping out in-front of you so much.

Really? I'd much rather a big dog than a little yappie one ending up squashed under my front wheel and me sent over a hedge. I'd find it more appealing to knock at a door saying "Your dog bit me! Pay for my medical needs." than saying "I killed your dog! You owe me a new wheel."

manwithaplan

amjon. wrote: »

I can assure you that if that had happened to me that dog would no longer be alive.

The EPO would kill him?

ford2600

http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/1998/en/si/0442.html

http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/1986/en/act/pub/0032/index.html#zza32y1986

Control of Dog regulations and Control of Dogs Act, have a read

neilr4 wrote: »

Got chased by a dog yesterday and almost crashed whilst descending at 50 kph........... decided to ring the owners doorbell and asked 'nicely' if it was maybe possible that he restrained the animal before somebody gets hurt? I was first told that I must have 'done something' to cause the dog to chase me and try to bite my leg! When I told the owner that I would never hurt an animal he informed me that his dog 'wouldn't do such a thing unprovoked!' I also informed him that I was only bringing it to his attention as someone could get seriously hurt and that he 'could' be held responsible, he replied that the road was public and the behaviour of his dog outside of his property was NOT his responsibility........then he told me to f**k off and get off his property or he would set the dog on me!! The whole time I remained polite without coming across as a smartass cyclist.......

IF I had've been knocked off my bike by his dog where would I stand from a legal perspective! Apart from being insulted by such an ignoramous what pissed me off is that I was only trying to be bloody civil about the whole thing :mad::eek:

Any opinions/experiences with this sort of thing?

N.

kneemos

studiorat wrote: »

I thought all cyclists carried bananas for this very purpose? That's what I've done, but it probably only encourages them.

I don't mind the little ones jumping out in-front of you so much. With about 16Kg of full susser and 6 " travel you hardly notice.

The banana goes in your shorts.

Icyseanfitz

studiorat wrote: »

I thought all cyclists carried bananas for this very purpose? That's what I've done, but it probably only encourages them.

I don't mind the little ones jumping out in-front of you so much. With about 16Kg of full susser and 6 " travel you hardly notice.

i had these toe rags who where drinking on a dh track id be using, i came flying down it and they all started shouting at their little terrier to "get him", i could only laugh at their stupidity an 18 kg 200mm travel downhill rig aint going to stop over a small terrier haha

in all seriousness though i think there should be some sort of test as to who can own dogs, the amount of scummy looking fcukers i see with dangerous dogs and no leashes amazes me (i am a dog person btw),

got chased by a rottweiler on the road bike one day, makes you move thats for sure

Zebrano

some people should not be allowed own dogs its unreal the amount of loose dogs around the place (and its a german shepard not an alsation):D

Nabber

neilr4 wrote: »

Took your advice and contacted the dog warden. He too was very surprised at the owner's attitude towards me, he'll be calling to the house early next week.

N.

Now the owner will be chasing you down the road

neilr4

Nabber wrote: »

Now the owner will be chasing you down the road

Would have no issues beating him with my pump!! He'd probably try to chew my tyres.......

clonmahon

Jawgap wrote: »

....and if they don't?

If you find yourself stopped and dealing with a dog intent on attacking get off the bike and use it as a shield, keep it between you and the dog, and retreat. But I have yet to find a dog that will not back down when faced up to on a public road.

When your moving fast you look like prey and the dogs instinct tells it to chase. When your stopped, shouting at the dog and clearly not afraid you don't look like prey and most dogs will back down.

Hermy

Icyseanfitz wrote: »

...got chased by a rottweiler on a road bike one day...

Smart dog!:D

cadobady

if you're hindered by a dog on your regular route, best to get off the bike, hunker down and call the dog over - pet the dog, use its name if you know it (call into the house to find out) and next time you pass by it will most likely leave you alone - dogs are smart.

worked for me after being chased by a terrier and labrador and now i can pass them both by on every cycle and they just sit and look!

that said - if it is a rothweiler - best to pump as hard as you can

biomed32

@piston, regardless if the owner says the dog will never bite again to the dog warden, the dog should still have been put down. I have a dog myself and would be gutted if it had to be put down because it bit someone but realistically I would understand. Its done for the general safety of the public. The owner can never guarantee the behaviour of the dog.

stas

Couldn't help it, sorry