Medical but no job offer

Walt Grace

Hey all,

I've been asked to do a pre employment medical for a company after doing a couple of interviews. However I haven't received any job offer.
Just wondering if it's legal for a company to ask someone to go for a medical without first making them a job offer??

Cheers

Mr. Loverman

I would be very surprised if there is a law which says the medical must be done after the job offer.

Even if it was illegal, pointing this out to your potential employer will surely result in no job offer...

UL_heart_throb

I always though the principle was job offer pending the results of a medical. They won't give you the job if you're not medically fit to do it and their insurance company will want to know what they're taking on if they provide insurance.

You can't discriminate on grounds of disability but that's different

Tabnabs

No point in them making you an offer if you can't pass a medical.

Eoin

Walt Grace wrote: »

I've been asked to do a pre employment medical for a company after doing a couple of interviews. However I haven't received any job offer.
Just wondering if it's legal for a company to ask someone to go for a medical without first making them a job offer??

I'd hate to live somewhere where this sort of thing was written into law!

Tabnabs wrote: »

No point in them making you an offer if you can't pass a medical.

Why not? Offers are often made on the condition that the medical and reference checks are OK.

ABajaninCork

I've never heard of this, but I suppose times change.

I was offered a job, started in the role and was in situ for over a month before I was sent for a medical!

My husband recently started a role. The day after starting, he was sent for one. Guess it really depends on the employer...

Walt Grace

My issue is with being asked to go for a medical without being offered the job. I can fully understand being offered a position pending a successful medical which i was see as more the norm.

Mr. Loverman

Walt Grace wrote: »

My issue is with being asked to go for a medical without being offered the job. I can fully understand being offered a position pending a successful medical which i was see as more the norm.

Well asking you to go for a medical implies they are seriously considering you for the job...

Bruthal

I would of thought that once you are asked to go for a medical, they are going to offer you the position pending the medical. But they don`t have to officially offer you the job before the medical.

lala88

Eoin wrote: »

I'd hate to live somewhere where this sort of thing was written into law!



Why not? Offers are often made on the condition that the medical and reference checks are OK.

What would be the point in giving someone a job then sending them for a medical and then they fail it? They would have to start all over again to try and find someone new

Eoin

The offer is conditional on the reference and medical checks. If there is a problem with either, then you can just offer the job to the second choice candidate - you don't start all over again.

lala88

Eoin wrote: »

The offer is conditional on the reference and medical checks. If there is a problem with either, then you can just offer the job to the second choice candidate - you don't start all over again.

Why should they have to settle for second best?

Eoin

Because their preferred candidate failed the medical. Or they can choose to start again.

But either way, it makes no difference to making the offer pending the checks.

lala88

Eoin wrote: »

Because their preferred candidate failed the medical. Or they can choose to start again.

But either way, it makes no difference to making the offer pending the checks.

So now your saying they would have to start again after saying in your last post they wouldn't. Then again you might change what you said in that post, you have a bit of a history of doing that

Should you not want to make sure you can get your first choice before you offer them the job?

Mr. Loverman

lala88 wrote: »

So now your saying they would have to start again after saying in your last post they wouldn't. Then again you might change what you said in that post, you have a bit of a history of doing that

Should you not want to make sure you can get your first choice before you offer them the job?

You're not making any sense...

DG Leixlip

Was it a company based in Co. Westmeath per chance?

Eoin

lala88 wrote: »

So now your saying they would have to start again after saying in your last post they wouldn't. Then again you might change what you said in that post, you have a bit of a history of doing that

Should you not want to make sure you can get your first choice before you offer them the job?

No, I said that they have the choice. Try and read my posts properly without resorting to petty little comments. It's not my fault you can't grasp a simple enough concept.

I'll try and simplify things for you.

Bob and Mary are among some people who go for the same job. They are the top two candidates. The company decide to hire Mary and offer her the job provided that she passes a medical. Mary doesn't pass, so they then have the choice of offering the job to bob or they have the choice of re-interviewing for the job.

lala88

Eoin wrote: »

No, I said that they have the choice. Try and read my posts properly without resorting to petty little comments. It's not my fault you can't grasp a simple enough concept.

I'll try and simplify things for you.

Bob and Mary are among some people who go for the same job. They are the top two candidates. The company decide to hire Mary and offer her the job provided that she passes a medical. Mary doesn't pass, so they then have the choice of offering the job to bob or they have the choice of re-interviewing for the job.

The offer is conditional on the reference and medical checks. If there is a problem with either, then you can just offer the job to the second choice candidate - you don't start all over again.

Thats what you said. I dont see you saying they could choose anywhere there. Do you?

Mr. Loverman

This is some real twilight zone sh*t.

Eoin

lala88 wrote: »

The offer is conditional on the reference and medical checks. If there is a problem with either, then you can just offer the job to the second choice candidate - you don't start all over again.

Thats what you said. I dont see you saying they could choose anywhere there. Do you?

"Then you CAN just offer the job". That implies there is a choice. I really don't want to get into a ridiculous pedantic conversation.

I was not saying what happens in each and every situation where this happens. It's what CAN happen. A company will choose whatever they feel to be their best option.

Bruthal

lala88 wrote: »

The offer is conditional on the reference and medical checks. If there is a problem with either, then you can just offer the job to the second choice candidate - you don't start all over again.

Thats what you said. I dont see you saying they could choose anywhere there. Do you?

For such a remarkably simple concept, you seem intent on making it seem complex.

Mrs OBumble

The OP has got his/her answer, let's leave it there.