Hole in 1 - Finished with a par

diarmuid05

First time i've ever seen this happen...

Practice round yesterday evening, 110 yrd Par 3, lob wedge bang on target coming right down on top of the flag...

Then BANG....

Hops up about 15 feet in the air and lands about 12 ft away.


Expected to find the hole damaged, but not a mark.... and no pitch mark anywhere else, so i've came to the conclusion that it landed straight in the cup.

Missed the putt

Tom F

Unlucky fella! Keep hitting them that close and you will do well!!

Rabidlamb

Great hit with a lob wedge, that would be a full PW for me.
There are pros that have gone their whole lives without a hole in one & hackers that have 3 of them, purely random.

denishurley

That's some going Diarmuid, pity it wasn't on video, would be perfect for You've Been Framed or whatever the modern-day equivalent is!

Incidentally, I have a tiny piece in today's Examiner (not online unfortunately) about a Brian Walsh, who had a hole-in-one at a par-4 in East Cork at the weekend.

FixdePitchmark

Great shot, hard luck.

Could it have just hit flag then very hard part of green due to weather ?
Hit top of flag (amazing but hard to believe) ?
Landed in cup and bounced out as you said (most likely)
Or, I've seen some poor cups were when flag is taken out the rim is raised , this can be left raised out of cup, you then hit rim.

All amazing. Must have been a UFO. That is what remains

diarmuid05

FixdePitchmark wrote: »

Great shot, hard luck.

Could it have just hit flag then very hard part of green due to weather ?
Hit top of flag (amazing but hard to believe) ?
Landed in cup and bounced out as you said (most likely)
Or, I've seen some poor cups were when flag is taken out the rim is raised , this can be left raised out of cup, you then hit rim.

All amazing. Must have been a UFO. That is what remains

Nope i spent a couple of minutes on the green in total disbelief.

Greens are watered everyday so if it hit the ground there would have been a pitch-mark.
Didn't hit the top of the flag as it definitely got to ground level
Checked the cup expecting damage, cup and flag were fine

Cant rule out the aliens though....

SnowDrifts

Are you sure it didn't hit the flag stick? Coincidentally, during the week, I hit a 110 yard 2nd shot to a par 4 and there was a bang as it hit the flag and finished 6ft away with no pitch mark to be seen.

diarmuid05

SnowDrifts wrote: »

Are you sure it didn't hit the flag stick? Coincidentally, during the week, I hit a 110 yard 2nd shot to a par 4 and there was a bang as it hit the flag and finished 6ft away with no pitch mark to be seen.

nah the bounce was way too high...

ssbob

110 Yard Par 3, mad little thing! What course?

diarmuid05

ssbob wrote: »

110 Yard Par 3, mad little thing! What course?

5th at Mountbellew... usually about 119 but whites were pushed well forward

matt-dublin

110 yard lob wedge? did you put your back out of joint or was there a massive wind??

diarmuid05

matt-dublin wrote: »

110 yard lob wedge? did you put your back out of joint or was there a massive wind??

It's actually a 54 degree wedge... i call it a lob wedge cause i also have a SW & PW...

No wind, very close and clammy yesterday evening

FixdePitchmark

diarmuid05 wrote: »

It's actually a 54 degree wedge... i call it a lob wedge cause i also have a SW & PW...

No wind, very close and clammy yesterday evening

A bit short then ;)

matt-dublin

that makes more sense, its a gap wedge so :P

Whyner

matt-dublin wrote: »

that makes more sense, its a gap wedge so :P

More like a SW

matt-dublin

a gap gap wedge?

i would have put an sw at 56 no?

Tones69

Whyner wrote: »

More like a SW

A strong sandwedge as the boys say lol

orr a weak gap wedge

k.p.h

I holed out from 140y Monday evening for a birdie. Didn't enjoy it one bit because it was my second shot on 180y par 3.

Sickened after duffing the iron off the tee...

whysomoody

Not enough backspin imo.

Rabidlamb

Why do golfers today need so many wedges, I started out aged 10 playing Pitch n' Putt where you got used to opening the face or closing it as the shot required.
When I took up golf having a SW seemed a luxury, great to have the bounce for sand shots but I could also open the face for full Michelson like flops.
I'd honestly get confused if I carried another open faced club, I'm strange anyway cause I still use a 1 iron & often hit the driver off the deck.
12 clubs in the bag would cover me for every eventuality.
I also refuse to use hybrids out of principle, it's just not cricket.

newport2

Rabidlamb wrote: »

Why do golfers today need so many wedges, I started out aged 10 playing Pitch n' Putt where you got used to opening the face or closing it as the shot required.
When I took up golf having a SW seemed a luxury, great to have the bounce for sand shots but I could also open the face for full Michelson like flops.
I'd honestly get confused if I carried another open faced club, I'm strange anyway cause I still use a 1 iron & often hit the driver off the deck.
12 clubs in the bag would cover me for every eventuality.
I also refuse to use hybrids out of principle, it's just not cricket.

If Phil Michelson with arguably the best short game in the world carries 4 wedges, then why wouldn't us mere mortals do so? Along with some of the best ball strikers in the world using hybrids. Most amateurs would struggle hitting a good 3 iron (even most pros can't consistantly, hence use hybrids), if you use a 1 iron yourself to a level which benefits your game then you're obviously an absolutely brilliant ball striker with an immaculate swing.

Rabidlamb

newport2 wrote: »

If Phil Michelson with arguably the best short game in the world carries 4 wedges, then why wouldn't us mere mortals do so? Along with some of the best ball strikers in the world using hybrids. Most amateurs would struggle hitting a good 3 iron (even most pros can't consistantly, hence use hybrids), if you use a 1 iron yourself to a level which benefits your game then you're obviously an absolutely brilliant ball striker with an immaculate swing.

I'd imagine Michelson does it cause he has a level of control & repeatability in his swing, 9 times out of 10 the ball flies as he intended.
When you're as fine tuned as him you would be able to justify the difference between 54 degrees or 56 degrees, more bounce, less bounce, deeper groves, tarnished face etc.
Where it's Mick that's out with his buddies on a Sunday morning he's adding nothing to his game but more confusion, imho.

The 1 iron thing for me came from my youth where we'd play with persimmon 3 woods, I found I could 1 iron further with as I could get it turning over easier.
The swing was far from perfect, 7 was my lowest ever handicap, but I always loved long irons.
Nothing more satisfying in golf than hitting a 4 iron off the back foot with a 3/4 swing into a headwind & drilling it.

ssbob

I carry 4 wedges myself, and find a great difference, mainly the 52 degree wedge is perfect for a certain yardage. I maybe do not use the 60degree wedge in every round, but it always happens that I might have a very tight bunker lie when I would feel more comfortable using that over the 56degree SW.

diarmuid05

How many clubs are in your bag to hit the ball between 100 & 200 yrds?
How many clubs are in your bag to hit the ball between 0 & 100 yrds?

Which is more important to your score?

SnowDrifts

diarmuid05 wrote: »

How many clubs are in your bag to hit the ball between 0 & 100 yrds?

Which is more important to your score?

But most people could use the one club for all distances between 0 - 100 yards.

But I agree with using a variety of wedges. I have 4 and would use each one almost every round. Yes, I could baby a pitching wedge from 70 Yards but get much more consistent results using my 60degree because I know that is the distance it will travel on a full swing. And it's the same for each wedge in the bag.

newport2

Rabidlamb wrote: »

I'd imagine Michelson does it cause he has a level of control & repeatability in his swing, 9 times out of 10 the ball flies as he intended.
When you're as fine tuned as him you would be able to justify the difference between 54 degrees or 56 degrees, more bounce, less bounce, deeper groves, tarnished face etc.
Where it's Mick that's out with his buddies on a Sunday morning he's adding nothing to his game but more confusion, imho.

The 1 iron thing for me came from my youth where we'd play with persimmon 3 woods, I found I could 1 iron further with as I could get it turning over easier.
The swing was far from perfect, 7 was my lowest ever handicap, but I always loved long irons.
Nothing more satisfying in golf than hitting a 4 iron off the back foot with a 3/4 swing into a headwind & drilling it.

I doubt many amateurs have only 2 degrees between their wedges, more like 4 - 6, which is a significant difference. I've no problem opening my sand-wedge to play flop shots, however with the bounce on it, I can't do this as consistantly off a tight lie as I can with an extra 4 degrees with far less bounce, which my lob wedge is. That said, it's the least used club in my bag.
Also, iron sets years ago were properly staggered in terms of loft. They gradually delofted, mainly due to marketing (wow, my new irons go further than my old set! Ye, thinks the manufacturer, because they're less lofted), all except the sand wedge which remained at 56 because it had a specific function associated with it. Hence the need for a gap wedge now, which is the same as a pitching wedge was 20+ years ago. And a pitching wedge is what a 9 iron used to be. So compare my bag with 4 wedges to a golfer in the 80's, the only difference in terms of wedges is that I have a lob wedge, and that my irons are all one less than his in terms of loft. I have 46, 50, 54 and 58 degree wedges. Golfers in the past had similarly staggered lofts up to 56 degrees.
There might be nothing more satisfying for you than drilling a low iron into the wind, but not everyone can do it. I, like many others here I suspect, was never lucky enough to get to play golf in my youth and started at a much later stage.

ozymandias10

FixdePitchmark wrote: »

Great shot, hard luck.

Could it have just hit flag then very hard part of green due to weather ?
Hit top of flag (amazing but hard to believe) ?
Landed in cup and bounced out as you said (most likely)
Or, I've seen some poor cups were when flag is taken out the rim is raised , this can be left raised out of cup, you then hit rim.

All amazing. Must have been a UFO. That is what remains

This happened me once but the ball shot off the top of the flag and into a bush off the green...got a bogey

Myksyk

Playing with a mate on our par 3 8th, 130m. Flushes the hit, all over the flag ... Then hits straight down on the very top of the flag, bounces at least 15 ft up and 30 yards over the back into the sh*t. Scratched the hole. Never saw anything like it before. He walked off the hole like he'd been mugged!

FixdePitchmark

ozymandias10 wrote: »

This happened me once but the ball shot off the top of the flag and into a bush off the green...got a bogey

No way, see a 2nd post by Mysky to say the same.

I was only putting it up as a 1 in 100,000 sort of thing. (like an alien).

So I wonder is it just hitting the solid part -or and this is where it gets stange, I tested this the other day.

If the ball was to hit flag dead middle, dead straight, near top, the flag would bend and act like a spring. Sorry, I know it is off the wall stuff.
But just putting it out there. :eek: