Bank Holiday Pay???

ebixa82

Hi,

I am employed full time 45 hours a week in my current job.

The shop is open every Bank Holiday for 4 hours. If you work it you get paid time and a half.

If you don't work it you get paid 8 hours BH payment.

My understanding was that by working it I would be paid 4 x 1.5 + 8 = 14 hours

However I was only paid 6 hours.

This seems mad because, if I don't work at all I get paid more money than if I come in and work 4 hours.

Is this right?

xtradel

In my old job our Bank Holiday hours were double time for whatever was worked and normal hours after that (up to 8)

Examples:

Worked 4 hours = 4 @ double time & 4 @ normal rate
Worked 2 hours = 2 @ double time & 6 @ normal rate
Worked 8 hours = 8 @ double time & 0 @ normal rate.

It seems you should have got 4 @ 1.5 time (6) & 4 @ normal time = 8 hours in total.

ebixa82

xtradel wrote: »

In my old job our Bank Holiday hours were double time for whatever was worked and normal hours after that (up to 8)

Examples:

Worked 4 hours = 4 @ double time & 4 @ normal rate
Worked 2 hours = 2 @ double time & 6 @ normal rate
Worked 8 hours = 8 @ double time & 0 @ normal rate.

It seems you should have got 4 @ 1.5 time (6) & 4 @ normal time = 8 hours in total.

Thanks!

Whatever way they worked it, it seems ridiculous to pay me less money for working than taking it off.
Just wonder is there anything illegal about it?

ibarelycare

If you are required to work on a public holiday, you are entitled to one of the following:

An addition day's pay
A paid day off within a month of the day
An additional day of paid annual leave


So your employer is in the wrong here.

Kristopherus

ibarelycare wrote: »

If you are required to work on a public holiday, you are entitled to one of the following:

An addition day's pay
A paid day off within a month of the day
An additional day of paid annual leave


So your employer is in the wrong here.

Not wrong in all cases. In the retail industry pay for a BH is normally 1.5 time. In the PS and industries such as Banking & Semi-states the rate is as you listed.

ibarelycare

Kristopherus wrote: »

Not wrong in all cases. In the retail industry pay for a BH is normally 1.5 time. In the PS and industries such as Banking & Semi-states the rate is as you listed.

Have you a link for that? I'm not saying you're wrong, just that I've never heard that there's a difference depending on industry before, and google isn't bringing up anything.

ebixa82

I am in a position that I can chose what days I work.

I presumed I would get T1/2 plus 8 hours otherwise I wouldn't have bothered.

As it stands I was paid 6.75 hours (4.5 x 1.5), had I chosen not to work I would have been paid 8!

The HR girl said "if you get paid at higher rate you don't get 8 hours as well"

I presume "higher rate" is T1/2.

So it's better to be paid the lower rate..i.e. 4.5 + 8 =12.5 hours instead of 6.75

silja

Did you point that out to her/ the HR boss? Seems they didn't think this through...

Mrs OBumble

ibarelycare wrote: »

If you are required to work on a public holiday, you are entitled to one of the following:

An addition day's pay
A paid day off within a month of the day
An additional day of paid annual leave


So your employer is in the wrong here.

Almost right. Citizen's Information says http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/employment/employment_rights_and_conditions/leave_and_holidays/public_holidays_in_ireland.html

• A paid day off on the public holiday
• An additional day of annual leave
• An additional day's pay
• A paid day off within a month of the public holiday

One exception is part-time employees who have not worked for their employer at least 40 hours in total in the 5 weeks before the public holiday.

So the OP didn't get a full additonal day's pay, but should have done.

The HR woman needs to be reminded of the above.

ibarelycare

JustMary wrote: »

Almost right. Citizen's Information says http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/employment/employment_rights_and_conditions/leave_and_holidays/public_holidays_in_ireland.html

That is exactly what I said

JustMary wrote: »

So the OP didn't get a full additonal day's pay, but should have done.

The HR woman needs to be reminded of the above.

This is actually something that's confused me a bit. When it says "a full additional day's pay", is that "day's pay" based on the employee's normal standard working day, or the day they worked on the bank holiday? For example, some businesses may open for 8 hours on a normal day, but on a bank holiday they might only open for 4. If the employee works the 4 hours on the bank holiday, which are they entitled to:

1. an additional 4 hours' pay OR
2. an additional 8 hours pay

on top of the 4 hours they worked on the BH?

nibtrix

ibarelycare wrote: »

That is exactly what I said




This is actually something that's confused me a bit. When it says "a full additional day's pay", is that "day's pay" based on the employee's normal standard working day, or the day they worked on the bank holiday? For example, some businesses may open for 8 hours on a normal day, but on a bank holiday they might only open for 4. If the employee works the 4 hours on the bank holiday, which are they entitled to:

1. an additional 4 hours' pay OR
2. an additional 8 hours pay

on top of the 4 hours they worked on the BH?

I would assume they get paid for the hours they work (4 in this case) and the "additional day's pay" is the 8hrs bank holiday pay.
So if they have an agreement to be paid time and a half on bank holidays they should get
4 x 1.5 + 8 x 1

xxlauraxxox

i got paid flat 8hours if i am requested to work a Bank Holiday and than have an option of taking a day off that week or getting paid for the 6th day ur lucky time a half or even double is very seldom nowadays employers will pay

FirePoi

We stay open for the whole day on bank holidays. Those who are off but still get bank holiday pay get paid normal rate of 8 hours and those who're working get the pay for that shift doubled. Not sure if this helps your case or not but I thought I'd share what I know just in case.

Best of luck

Stheno

I work office hours, and am usually off BHs but if I have to work them abroad etc, get two days holidays as compensation.

Bizarre the different approaches.