Heckler- are critics too harsh?

krudler

I watched this documentary on Netflix last night and thought it'd generate some discussion on here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tH2tiEnbvY

its mostly focused on hecklers at standup gigs but it does go into movie critics and people's criticism of films, music, performers etc. Especially in the internet age where anyone with a net connection and a keyboard has an opinion that can be read worldwide. So my question is this, are critics too harsh? the doc has Jamie Kennedy talking to people that have given him savagely harsh reviews after Son Of The Mask came out.
There's interviews with standups and actors who basically say that they welcome constructive or well written criticism, but a lot of it these days is in youtube comment soundbites or "this guy sucks" attacks, or some deeply personal ones. Kennedy himself is almost in tears at one point talking to a webiste critic who demolishes him personally in a review.
Now I can usually find some good aspects in a movie even if I didnt like it overall, some movies are so bad they're fun to rip apart, but would you say anything you'd post on here or a blog or review on imdb or something to a performers face?

The debate and arguments around Charlie Casanova is a perfect recent example, the director was accusing people of having some kind of agenda against him personally but the overall consensus (I havent seen it yet) was that it simply isn't a good movie. Likewise directors like George Lucas or Michael Bay get routinely savaged by the internet, for whatever reasons, I did agree with one part of the doc where someone says film critics dont seem to be able to look at film genres subjectively, one guy says Piglets Big Adventure is only good if you';re a 5 year old, well exactly, its a movie aimed at 5 year olds, it can't be judged on the same critical merits as something more mature or high end.

thoughts?

Tipsy McSwagger

I seen Jamie Kennedy's name attached to it so I refused to watch it on Netflix. The guy starred in one of the worst films of all time where he gurned his way through most of it. He deserves the criticism.

krudler

Tipsy McSwagger wrote: »

I seen Jamie Kennedy's name attached to it so I refused to watch it on Netflix. The guy starred in one of the worst films of all time where he gurned his way through most of it. He deserves the criticism.

Its actually worth a watch though, he's part of it but it there's interviews with other (better) standups and actors.

Tipsy McSwagger

Watched it today. Jamie Kennedy is a very poor stand up judging by this film. The heckler he invited to his room after the show was even funnier than him,

Jamie - So what do you work as?
Heckler - I'm an assistant to someone who minds 13 kids.
Jamie - So your a babysitter?
Heckler - Well, yes.
Jamie - So you listen to farts all day?
Heckler - Its better than listening to one of your shows.

The best bit in the doc though is when he is in the Jacuzzi with the midget actor Deep Roy and the little man rips the piss out of him, 'hey how much percent is Son of the Sh#t on Rotten Tomatoes', classic.

kitakyushu

That preview put me right off. Kennedy going "why do you hate me?" just screams of a guy with actual psychological issues. Boll "boxing" with guys who I'm guessing by the look of it had never even stepped into a boxing ring (or even been in a fight) before just makes me think the guy is an even bigger joke than his movies already suggest and that those critics were even bigger fools to get involved without training.

If this movie was meant to answer why these guys get such a hard ride from critics then I think their extra-curricular behavior alone answers that question.

OldeCinemaSoz

If a critique puts a potential viewer
off a film then there's something more wrong
with the viewer rather than that of the cricket. :rolleyes:

krudler

Tipsy McSwagger wrote: »

Watched it today. Jamie Kennedy is a very poor stand up judging by this film. The heckler he invited to his room after the show was even funnier than him,

Jamie - So what do you work as?
Heckler - I'm an assistant to someone who minds 13 kids.
Jamie - So your a babysitter?
Heckler - Well, yes.
Jamie - So you listen to farts all day?
Heckler - Its better than listening to one of your shows.

The best bit in the doc though is when he is in the Jacuzzi with the midget actor Deep Roy and the little man rips the piss out of him, 'hey how much percent is Son of the Sh#t on Rotten Tomatoes', classic.

he is a poor standup, some of the points made are valid you can see why being obliterated in reviews would get to people, but on the flip side, these are performers who star in ...well sh1tty movies.