Leaving Certificate Home Economics 2012

Fergus_

Just thought I'll start up a thread for Home Ec to discuss predictions and various things within the paper and to ask any questions we got stuck on in the past papers.

I got stuck on this one

HL 2011 Section B Q2 (b)

"Classify artifcial sweeteners and give one example of each"

I couldn't find anything on this in my book, I found the heading but it didn't give any classifications.

Could anyone provide me with an answer please?

jamiered81

Intense sweeteners- used in small amounts as they are many times sweeter then sugar. Examples include Aspartame and Saccharin.
Bulk sweeteners- used in large amounts as they have the same sweetening strength as sugar. Examples- Sorbitol and Manitol.

Fergus_

jamiered81 wrote: »

Intense sweeteners- used in small amounts as they are many times sweeter then sugar. Examples include Aspartame and Saccharin.
Bulk sweeteners- used in large amounts as they have the same sweetening strength as sugar. Examples- Sorbitol and Manitol.

Thanks very much!

Manic2

BRICKING IT FOR THIS!!

I'd bet carbohydrates and cereals for Q1!
Also Leisure, Poverty and Unemployment for the Elective!

pinkapple18

How do we feel about maybe the kettle coming up? hasn't appeared since 2005? Definitely think household technology as it comes up every second year except for last year! Also, sensory analysis is a biggie my teacher said! Any other ideas?

Chalc2012

Would love if carbs came up with cereals! I have a feeling obesity is going to come up? My teacher thinks the irish food industry is really topical now and sensory analysis? There is so much in Home ec

Whatsisname

I honestly have no idea whats going to come up, I'm dreading this as much as I'm dreading English Paper 2

pinkapple18

Whatsisname wrote: »

I honestly have no idea whats going to come up, I'm dreading this as much as I'm dreading English Paper 2

You'll all be fine! I'm think it will be okay...english paper 2 and geography are freakin' me out....are we all studying Plath?
:P :eek:

Whatsisname

pinkapple18 wrote: »

You'll all be fine! I'm think it will be okay...english paper 2 and geography are freakin' me out....are we all studying Plath?
:P :eek:

Hopefully so anyway! thank god for the extra marks with the journal. I think my class must be the only 6th year class who didn't do Plath..

Siobhnk

My teacher said sensory analysis/Haccp for one of the questions.

biohaiid

Siobhnk wrote: »

My teacher said sensory analysis/Haccp for one of the questions.

Definately avoiding that one then.

gaahurling

sensory analysis... what would a typical question on this subject be?

Fergus_

I saw this short question in the HL Sample Paper 1

"Explain the terms, swing or display labels in terms of the Fire Safety Order 1988"

I couldn't find anything on this in my book, no mention of swing or display labels.

rosualt

Fergus_ wrote: »

I saw this short question in the HL Sample Paper 1

"Explain the terms, swing or display labels in terms of the Fire Safety Order 1988"

I couldn't find anything on this in my book, no mention of swing or display labels.

Is your book lifelines? If so it's on p265... Otherwise I could write it up for you?

Fergus_

rosualt wrote: »

Is your book lifelines? If so it's on p265... Otherwise I could write it up for you?

I have a different book

That would be great, thanks!

rosualt

Fergus_ wrote: »

I have a different book

That would be great, thanks!

Ah sure no problem, glad to help :P here ya go...

Fire Safety Domestic Furniture Order 1988, 1995

The purpose of this order is to reduce fire-related accidents. The regulations apply to beds, cots, pushchairs, upholstered furniture, loose covers and pillows. The order requires that:
- Fabrics used in any of the above must pass a number of fire safety tests.
- Permanent safety labels on all items must be securely attached, clearly legible and durable.
- A display or swing safety label must also be attached to all items.
- Any foam filling used must be CMHR ( combustion modified high resilience) foam or filling.

Types of labels:

Display/ swing labels:
(a) Square- Both fabric cover and filling meet safety requirements.
(b) Triangle- Used when outer fabric is not match resistant but a fire-resistant interliner is present.

Permanent labels:

- are usually stitched on.
- include a warning 'carelessness causes fire'
- include name, address, date of manufacturers; importers identity/ batch number; despcription if fillings and cover material; details of interliner if used.

Siobhnk

Fergus do you use Living Life? It's on page 219 if you use that! Or do you use the other book that's around, can't remember the name of it but my friends brother used it and it was an old enough book?

Lads in 2009 and asked for the profile of a value added food (production, packaging etc). Could you use flour for this? And just say vitamins are added during production? Just because on the marking scheme it doesn't give the names of any foods.

aineeeeee

Siobhnk wrote: »

Fergus do you use Living Life? It's on page 219 if you use that! Or do you use the other book that's around, can't remember the name of it but my friends brother used it and it was an old enough book?

Lads in 2009 and asked for the profile of a value added food (production, packaging etc). Could you use flour for this? And just say vitamins are added during production? Just because on the marking scheme it doesn't give the names of any foods.

pretty sure cheese is the one for ADF, flour is extensive processing. That's what I learned anyway!
Dreading Home Ec. more than almost anything, I need an A1 in it

Siobhnk

aineeeeee wrote: »

pretty sure cheese is the one for ADF, flour is extensive processing. That's what I learned anyway!
Dreading Home Ec. more than almost anything, I need an A1 in it

But there's nothing added to cheese to make it a value added food? Super milk would be one, but I was almost sure fortified flour came under that umbrella.

aineeeeee

Siobhnk wrote: »

aineeeeee wrote: »

pretty sure cheese is the one for ADF, flour is extensive processing. That's what I learned anyway!
Dreading Home Ec. more than almost anything, I need an A1 in it

But there's nothing added to cheese to make it a value added food? Super milk would be one, but I was almost sure fortified flour came under that umbrella.

The nutrients (fat, protein etc) are more concentrated due to water loss, or so my teacher says :P I guess fortified flour would work too though!

Siobhnk

aineeeeee wrote: »

The nutrients (fat, protein etc) are more concentrated due to water loss, or so my teacher says :P I guess fortified flour would work too though!

Oh right I get ya now! Oh lord but this question has me confused now, googled added value food and it turns out its not something that's fortified?? It's like milk being processed into cheese or yoghurt! We'll I'd have been f*cked in that, would have lost 26 marks!!!!!!

aineeeeee

Siobhnk wrote: »

aineeeeee wrote: »

The nutrients (fat, protein etc) are more concentrated due to water loss, or so my teacher says :P I guess fortified flour would work too though!

Oh right I get ya now! Oh lord but this question has me confused now, googled added value food and it turns out its not something that's fortified?? It's like milk being processed into cheese or yoghurt! We'll I'd have been f*cked in that, would have lost 26 marks!!!!!!

Close one! Glad I could help

rosualt

Siobhnk wrote: »

aineeeeee wrote: »

Oh right I get ya now! Oh lord but this question has me confused now, googled added value food and it turns out its not something that's fortified?? It's like milk being processed into cheese or yoghurt! We'll I'd have been f*cked in that, would have lost 26 marks!!!!!!

Oh God me too! :O
What elective is everyone doing?

Siobhnk

Poor us... Like I've been working so hard in this damn subject to do well, the paper can be bloody awful

I'm doing the social elective you?
I love the whole sociology side of things, but I never have enough time to write a decent answer for it, we need more time

rosualt

Siobhnk wrote: »

Poor us... Like I've been working so hard in this damn subject to do well, the paper can be bloody awful

I'm doing the social elective you?
I love the whole sociology side of things, but I never have enough time to write a decent answer for it, we need more time

Same most of my class is doing textiles though, I don't know how they found the time to make a skirt on top of everything else :O I find time is an issue for question one especially, do you? and I never do seem to do well on the chart part no matter how long I spend on it
Had been hoping for the A1 but its looking unlikely at this stage...

Fergus_

Siobhnk wrote: »

Fergus do you use Living Life? It's on page 219 if you use that! Or do you use the other book that's around, can't remember the name of it but my friends brother used it and it was an old enough book?

Lads in 2009 and asked for the profile of a value added food (production, packaging etc). Could you use flour for this? And just say vitamins are added during production? Just because on the marking scheme it doesn't give the names of any foods.

I use Get Living and couldn't really find any information in it.

Fergus_

I don't really do well on that Q1 chart either.

I do Social Studies for the Elective, pretty straight forward.

AnnaKin

Hey peoples!!
So, I was just looking at the questions and I was just wondering, finance has come up the past couple of years..whats the chances of it coming up next week? I reaaaallly dont want it to, since I just learnt off the small appliances and stuff! Any opinions? As well as that, anyone got any ideas for the Q5's?

ejcostello

So what does everyone think will come up then? Carbohydrates & Cereals? My teacher hinted at lipids but I dunno. What about micro-nutrients? Help

Siobhnk

The thing is the course is so broad there's no knowing really you could narrow it down but not be definite.

jamiered81

Can anyone explain the property Plasticity in relation to Lipids to me? the explanation in my book is pretty useless.

siobhanod93

gaahurling wrote: »

sensory analysis... what would a typical question on this subject be?

2007 had a question on it I think

Breifne72

what's everyone thinkin in terms of predictions? fingers crossed for fish/carbohydrates as a q1, also my teacher said to look at the minerals like calcium or iron and vitamins c and d, t minus 3 days.. gettin nervous lads!

rosualt

jamiered81 wrote: »

Can anyone explain the property Plasticity in relation to Lipids to me? the explanation in my book is pretty useless.

Plasticity: Lipids can have properties of both a solid (saturated) and a liquid (unsaturated) fat, e.g. margarines have shape and structure but they are also soft and spreadable.

biohaiid

I thought I had everything basically covered, as in Q1, the elective, Q4 consumer studies and Q2 food commodities, special diets .. but now Im realising I might need to know additives, food posioning .. all that extra crap that I haven't a clue of.
Could I be safe enough without it? Dreading this exam!

rosualt

biohaiid wrote: »

I thought I had everything basically covered, as in Q1, the elective, Q4 consumer studies and Q2 food commodities, special diets .. but now Im realising I might need to know additives, food posioning .. all that extra crap that I haven't a clue of.
Could I be safe enough without it? Dreading this exam!

Depends what you mean by safe I suppose! short questions can be from anywhere on the course but as for the long ones, you're probably fairly safe, might be one or two parts you don't know though!

biohaiid

rosualt wrote: »

Depends what you mean by safe I suppose! short questions can be from anywhere on the course but as for the long ones, you're probably fairly safe, might be one or two parts you don't know though!

Im not really focusing on the short Qs. Ah well, think its all I can do at this stage. I'll know the microbio from Biology so I'll just have a quick read over the other possibilites night before I guess!

Oh and by safe I guess I mean I could do with an A .. Oh god Im screwed

biohaiid

AnnaKin wrote: »

Hey peoples!!
So, I was just looking at the questions and I was just wondering, finance has come up the past couple of years..whats the chances of it coming up next week? I reaaaallly dont want it to, since I just learnt off the small appliances and stuff! Any opinions? As well as that, anyone got any ideas for the Q5's?

Yeah I learned finance and then looked at the papers, I really cant see it.

I reckon family resource management or come kinda appliance.
Thats purely just my opinion, no help from my useless teacher!

silversky

So bored of studying Hamlet atm, so the below are my Home Ec teachers predictions.

For Q1: Lipids, Fats and Oils, Fat Soluble Vitamins, Obesity, Cholesterol. Instead of fats and oils though she said meat or cheese could come up.
or
Carbs, cereals, B group vits, bowel disorders etc.

(really hope its lipids)

The next few questions she said to focus on:

Consumer Studies + Household Technology

Microbiology

HACCP System and all that stuff associated with culinary cleanliness

Sensory Analysis

Oh and for the short Q's the only thing I suppose your usually guaranteed is to list the terms of a law or something like a loan from the finace section. They usually always come up

jamiered81

For the household appliances do you have to draw a diagram of them?

AnnaKin

jamiered81 wrote: »

For the household appliances do you have to draw a diagram of them?

I do draw them, purely because it helps me remember other stuff to write!

happywithlife

silversky wrote: »

So bored of studying Hamlet atm, so the below are my Home Ec teachers predictions.

For Q1: Lipids, Fats and Oils, Fat Soluble Vitamins, Obesity, Cholesterol. Instead of fats and oils though she said meat or cheese could come up.
or
Carbs, cereals, B group vits, bowel disorders etc.

(really hope its lipids)

The next few questions she said to focus on:

Consumer Studies + Household Technology

Microbiology

HACCP System and all that stuff associated with culinary cleanliness

Sensory Analysis

Oh and for the short Q's the only thing I suppose your usually guaranteed is to list the terms of a law or something like a loan from the finace section. They usually always come up

i'd agree with all of the above.
but would add, go over all symbols etc for short q's - they came up in Q12 for the last two years and haven't been well known so know those - if you have a junior cert book handy, look up all the consumer studies symbols in the consumer protection chapter, and add to that the textiles symbols (esp red triangle and green square symbol) along with the radura symbol (see irriadiation in preservation)

and defo do go over short q's -- they are damm hard! if you want to write in the answers now (if you haven't already) do so and then on tues night have some printed off from examinations.ie to go over again. section a is worth 60 marks -- look at all the work you put into the elective and compulsory question for 80 marks .. 60 out of 320 is a heck of a big chunk not to go over...
remember to avoid essay type answers and use bullet points!
and to paraphrase the chief examiner's report from last year (very useful tips btw) those that explained using both a diagram and written description usually scored higher than those that just used either one on their own ... so do include diagrams for chemical structure of nutrients, working principle of an appliance etc.
hope this helps somewhat and best of luck to everyone!

Whatsisname

silversky wrote: »

So bored of studying Hamlet atm, so the below are my Home Ec teachers predictions.

For Q1: Lipids, Fats and Oils, Fat Soluble Vitamins, Obesity, Cholesterol. Instead of fats and oils though she said meat or cheese could come up.
or
Carbs, cereals, B group vits, bowel disorders etc.

(really hope its lipids)

The next few questions she said to focus on:

Consumer Studies + Household Technology

Microbiology

HACCP System and all that stuff associated with culinary cleanliness

Sensory Analysis

Oh and for the short Q's the only thing I suppose your usually guaranteed is to list the terms of a law or something like a loan from the finace section. They usually always come up

I really hope its along the lines of this, it'd be perfect. My teacher is thinking HACCP and Sensory Analysis will come up this year too and Microbiology is perfect for someone like me who does Biology too!

silversky

One Question Home Ec people: Can I leave out studying social studies of the family totally? I really hate those chapters.

I know a lot of people say you can make the stuff up on the day, but you're penalised if you just waffle on throughout the answer (which I will end up doing)

I'm thinking of just reading over the family laws to cover myself for the short Q's. What do ye think?

happywithlife

silversky wrote: »

One Question Home Ec people: Can I leave out studying social studies of the family totally? I really hate those chapters.

I know a lot of people say you can make the stuff up on the day, but you're penalised if you just waffle on throughout the answer (which I will end up doing)

I'm thinking of just reading over the family laws to cover myself for the short Q's. What do ye think?

ok yes you can leave out social studies of the family as that is question 5 in section B - but then you are limiting yourself to answering two questions from 2,3 and 4.
btw there are no short questions from the social studies section at all
but to address the point re waffling -- if you did decide to answer that question, read the question properly, use headings to structure the answer and bullet point all answers instead of 'waffling' in paragraphs. would also be a good idea to reread the question after 2/3 bullet points to make sure you are still on track.

ele1992

Nerves setting in also! Meat and fish were kinda up in 2010 though? I'm repeating and i mean did nothing the first year and got B1 in higher. all the about the paper! Hopefully we'll all be lucky this year