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Walking out

  • 28-05-2012 3:47pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 72 ✭✭


    Hi,

    Need some advice.

    I'm starting a new job next week, my notice period is up on Friday.

    I'm owed three hours which I'm being told I can't take because I went for the interview whilst I was off from work sick (I had chest, sinus and ear infections all at once) and if I take the three hours off they won't give me my sick pay. I was spoken to in a horrible manner and told things like "I can't believe you'd bother asking after what you've done" and the manager stated that he's always right about things like that.

    My days off for the week are tomorrow and Wednesday. What happens if I just walk out now and don't work the thursday and Friday? I understand I won't get paid for what I don't work. But can they withhold my pay I'm owed from last month?

    I hate that things have gone this way but I just can't take it anymore


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,144 ✭✭✭✭kippy


    choobles wrote: »
    Hi,

    Need some advice.

    I'm starting a new job next week, my notice period is up on Friday.

    I'm owed three hours which I'm being told I can't take because I went for the interview whilst I was off from work sick (I had chest, sinus and ear infections all at once) and if I take the three hours off they won't give me my sick pay. I was spoken to in a horrible manner and told things like "I can't believe you'd bother asking after what you've done" and the manager stated that he's always right about things like that.

    My days off for the week are tomorrow and Wednesday. What happens if I just walk out now and don't work the thursday and Friday? I understand I won't get paid for what I don't work. But can they withhold my pay I'm owed from last month?

    I hate that things have gone this way but I just can't take it anymore
    I've no idea of your job or background but in general, you are better leaving the place with bridges left semi intact, rather than leaving on exceptionally bad terms. Believe it or believe it not, it's probably less stressful that way.
    Ireland is a small country and your reputation is about all you have when you break it down.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,652 ✭✭✭I am pie


    Turn up, do the 2 days work and leave a happier man for it. You'll get the money you're owed and you won't have any stress over having left before your notice is up.

    It's not worth the hassle to leave early.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 72 ✭✭choobles


    [/QUOTE]
    I've no idea of your job or background but in general, you are better leaving the place with bridges left semi intact, rather than leaving on exceptionally bad terms. Believe it or believe it not, it's probably less stressful that way.
    Ireland is a small country and your reputation is about all you have when you break it down.[/Quote]

    See I came in for the week vowing to do my best and work hard and let bygones be bygones with them but they've made it quite hard for me now.

    If I walk out can they refuse to pay what I'm owed?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,144 ✭✭✭✭kippy



    See I came in for the week vowing to do my best and work hard and let bygones be bygones with them but they've made it quite hard for me now.

    If I walk out can they refuse to pay what I'm owed?

    Technically, I believe you have to be paid for what you worked however the company may make you jump through some hoops for acting the b0ll0x with them.
    Avoid the stress you may have to go through in sorting all this out and work the days you have left and try leave on semi good terms.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,652 ✭✭✭I am pie


    choobles wrote: »
    I've no idea of your job or background but in general, you are better leaving the place with bridges left semi intact, rather than leaving on exceptionally bad terms. Believe it or believe it not, it's probably less stressful that way.
    Ireland is a small country and your reputation is about all you have when you break it down.

    See I came in for the week vowing to do my best and work hard and let bygones be bygones with them but they've made it quite hard for me now.

    If I walk out can they refuse to pay what I'm owed?[/QUOTE]

    They might not hand it over willingly. You might find you don't get it or a least have to involve yourself in a discussion you don't need.

    Really, just do the 2 days, take the emotion out of the situation and move on with your new job next week.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,652 ✭✭✭fasttalkerchat


    Taking time off on the sick and doing a job interview in that time is very serious and they could have been worse about it.
    Take it that you used the 3 hours when you went off for your interview and say no more about it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,332 ✭✭✭tatli_lokma


    Leaving the fact that the boss is being a d!ck and behaving in an unprofessional manner in how he's dealing with it, I can see where he's coming from.
    You are too sick to attend work, yet you are well enough to attend an interview and do a good job at said interview. Now in his mind, understandably he is wondering A) were you even sick at all and B) if you did want to attend an interview, why didn't you do it in your own time?You were getting paid sick leave (which they do not legally have to give you) and yet you still want to argue the toss about 3 hours time off? By paying you while you were out sick they were in effect paying you in good faith thinking you were home sick, when in fact they were actually paying you to attend an interview. You can see why he would be miffed, can't you? In fact, I could argue that he would be in his rights to sack you rather than let you leave voluntarily, and that would not look good for you.

    You may well have been sick, but you did not spend all your 'sick' time at home getting better. As fasttalkerchat says, take the 3 hours you are owed as having been taken whilst you were at your interview. Unless you get a couple of hundred Euro an hour, is it really worth it? You have a new job to go to, so its not like you desperately need 3 hours pay? Also bear in mind, time off in lieu does get lost when you leave employment - there is no obligation on the employer to pay you out for this. So they do not have to pay you for it anyway.

    Your new employer may not have completed all their reference checks yet - many employers give offers of jobs in the proviso that references check out....what if you leave, then the new employer checks with your old employer only to find you walked out with only 2 days notice left to work? they could then retract their offer to you and you would be rightly stuck.

    Finally, if there are to be any hassles with getting the money you are entitled to, then complicating matters for the sake of 3 hours won't help. Be the bigger person, finish your notice period, walk out with your head high and your professionalism in tact. It will be worth it to you in the end.


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