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Chartered Engineer Reading Service

  • 28-05-2012 11:51am
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    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 23,243 Mod ✭✭✭✭


    In the last couple of weeks I've been asked to review CEng practice reports for friends submitting their applications in June.

    I've been asked so many times that I am wondering would it be something I could do on the side as a mini business.

    As a result I've developed two course that I could offer as part of thr business as well as conducting mock interviews.

    Do you think there would be much of a market for this? What price do you think people would be willing to pay for the service?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 515 ✭✭✭con1982


    I don't think there would be a huge market for report reviewing. Most people ask work colleagues or colleges friends to review their report. I suppose some people may not have anyone to review it for them.

    The idea of mock interviews is interesting. I suppose somewhere between 60-100 euro would be reasonable for 60-90min mock interview and preparation session (assuming you are not a professional coach).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21 oidhreacht


    Interesting idea; there would be certainly be a large potential client base as there are consistently high numbers applying to get the Chartership.

    Any views I have would be based on anecdotal evidence rather than any hard data, but I would suggest that:

    > most people use their friends'/colleagues' reports as a template for their own version
    > any report that is used as template would be from someone who is chartered, so it would have gone through the vetting process to ensure it is in a suitable format/structure
    > typically reports seem to get a thorough checking & most rejections would be at this stage. Main reason for not getting through would be not enough (relevant) experience
    > if the report does get through, the failure rate at the interview stage would be relatively low I'd suggest. Unless you make a real mess of it, the interview is, as far as I see it, a final "Ronseal" check
    > so as long as you write a decent report & have enough to back it up at the interview stage you're laughing

    Best of luck if you do decide to offer consulting; wouldn't be much risk on your side if did want to have a cut off it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,476 ✭✭✭2rkehij30qtza5


    I expect most people get their colleagues to look over their reports. In fairness the guidance info. given out in the application booklets and documents are self-explanatory. Doesn't stop many people submitting dreadful reports though (I also review and interview).

    What I generally find is people's basic standard of English (punctuation, grammar, spelling) is appalling.

    I am of the belief that if someone cannot follow the simple procedures set out on how to correctly write a Chartership report then they really shouldn't be applying!

    I can't say for sure if there would be a business in this! Maybe if you are an interviewer/person who reviews the reports for Engineers Ireland, then yes, you would be qualified to be giving people the advice. But if you don't do this then you are just a CEng like many thousands more without the full knowledge and marking criteria etc. You may be telling people their report is adequate to pass through to interview stage without actually being fully sure due to lack of training/experience in the area of correcting?


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 23,243 Mod ✭✭✭✭godtabh


    I am a trained assessor and interviewer.

    I also do mentoring and I am developing a course to help participants develop the competencies of a Chartered Engineer. Has worked internally informally and I reckon could work externally.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 571 ✭✭✭annfield1978


    90% pass rate

    bit of a joke really

    trained assessor too btw


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 23,243 Mod ✭✭✭✭godtabh


    I thought it was 70%


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 571 ✭✭✭annfield1978


    not according to the training talk i attended 3-4 weeks ago in Engineers Ireland. They reject the submissions if not upto scratch so that a candidate isnt put forward for interview, my understaning would be that 90% pass the interview stage


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 23,243 Mod ✭✭✭✭godtabh


    The last briefing I was I was told it was 70% but maybe that included submissions that were rejected.


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