Where did Jesus go?

Coriolanus

Idle curiosity really.
After he was put in the cave and before they opened the cave and found it empty, where was he supposed to have been? Did he ascend, or go directly from cave to outside resurrected? And if he did ascend did his physical body go with him or remain in the cave and he came back down to fill it and leave the cave?
Is there, has there been any disagreement on the issue historically or all the major churches more or less agreed?

homer911

This might help...

http://www.gotquestions.org/did-Jesus-go-to-hell.html

Doc Farrell

The Resurrection is an off the scale supernatural event that is very difficult to understand or believe in unless you have experienced a supernatural event in your own life.
Understanding, faith, belief, usually takes quite a long time, longer than we would like. What's very important from the beginning is that you do not throw out your reasoning, education, intelligence just because you are investigating the mystical or supernatural aspect of religion.
So, a safe question to begin with is 'who is it that is sharing information with me?' And right here, you meet the first hurdle. The Internet is basically full of loonies, like my good self, anonymous posters and poseurs.
So I suggest that you read only the finest books available to humanity! Make sure that the books have dozens, if not hundreds of 5 star reviews from credible reviewers. After all you wouldn't hand a history book about the second world war to an impressionable teenager that was written by a Nazi apologist? Would you? You might?!
I can recommend titles if you want but if reading them feels like work then it would be better to experience what Christianity really is by doing a tiny bit of volunteering with a charity.
Understanding Faith is supposed to be an Adenture, but one that must be taken one tiny step at a time, at your own pace. It will seem tiresome and to be honest, without a wise director in the real world, not on the Internet, it might be too much for now.
There are quite a few sandwich board extremist types on the Internet so try to use your common sense in your discernment.

For example, on a personal note, I've been reading some of the things written by French Catholics written around the time of the Dreyfus Affair and frankly the level of anti-semitism is appalling. The reason I mention this is because I'm a Catholic and even now, a century later, I have to be extremely careful in discerning the intentions and motivations of Catholic people who speak and write publicly in the name of Jesus Christ, on a wide range of subjects.
Good luck!

georgieporgy

Coriolanus wrote: »

Idle curiosity really.
After he was put in the cave and before they opened the cave and found it empty, where was he supposed to have been? Did he ascend, or go directly from cave to outside resurrected? And if he did ascend did his physical body go with him or remain in the cave and he came back down to fill it and leave the cave?
Is there, has there been any disagreement on the issue historically or all the major churches more or less agreed?

After dying on the cross on friday afternoon Jesus' soul left his body (which was now just a corpse as we would normally understand such things) and descended to where the souls of the just were waiting, commonly referred to as Abraham's bosom and also often called limbo for want of a better term. Here He revealed himself to them as the long awaited messiah and announced that heaven was now open thanks to His redemptive life on their behalf. Meanwhile his body was readied for burial and locked in a tomb.

Early the following Sunday his soul reunited with his dead body in the tomb restoring it to life and now in his new resurrected glorified body he spends the next 40 days on earth . His actions were different now insofar as he would appear and disappear at will, walk through walls etc.

40 days later he ascends (body and soul) to heaven.

i think that's the generally accepted mainline view as per the apostles creed.

dvae

georgieporgy wrote: »

Here He revealed himself to them as the long awaited messiah and announced that heaven was now open thanks to His redemptive life on their behalf.

where in the bible dose it say this?

homer911

dvae wrote: »

where in the bible dose it say this?

The temple curtain was torn in two..

georgieporgy

dvae wrote: »

where in the bible dose it say this?

I'm speaking as a catholic.We don't limit our faith to the written word alone.( Do not infer from that that we omit or change the written word.) But if a biblical reference is helpful you could start with Gospel of John 21-25.

gimmebroadband

For those who may be interested, an account of where Jesus went by Catholic Mystic Bl. Anne Catherine Emmerich, can be read here.

Coriolanus

georgieporgy wrote: »

Early the following Sunday his soul reunited with his dead body in the tomb restoring it to life and now in his new resurrected glorified body he spends the next 40 days on earth . His actions were different now insofar as he would appear and disappear at will, walk through walls etc.

40 days later he ascends (body and soul) to heaven.

i think that's the generally accepted mainline view as per the apostles creed.

So if his body stayed down here, did it start to decay or was it still imbued with some sort of force/immunity? I'm not being facetious, it just seems to be a logical conclusion to His lifeforce leaving it's vessel. OR when you say glorified body do you mean that somehow his re entering the body set the clock back somehow, or stripped away the mortal element somehow?

georgieporgy

Coriolanus wrote: »

So if his body stayed down here, did it start to decay or was it still imbued with some sort of force/immunity? I'm not being facetious, it just seems to be a logical conclusion to His lifeforce leaving it's vessel. OR when you say glorified body do you mean that somehow his re entering the body set the clock back somehow, or stripped away the mortal element somehow?

Your question isn't clear. Are you referring to the period between his death and resurrection (friday-sunday), or the 40 day period after his resurrection and prior to his ascension?

lmaopml

Coriolanus wrote: »

So if his body stayed down here, did it start to decay or was it still imbued with some sort of force/immunity? I'm not being facetious, it just seems to be a logical conclusion to His living it's vessel. OR when you say glorified body do you mean that somehow his re entering the body set the clock back somehow, or stripped away the mortal element somehow?

He was always fully mortal, but different, fully God - he was the author of life, it's hierarchy - God, there from the beginning, all knowing - did you ever read about how he healed the sick, but better than that he healed hearts, those people who followed him, the ones who knew their maker and responded with their hearts, who understood what 'good' is and at least tried to follow..

His legacy lives on. Like it or no...this living space is shared, but there is always room for his message, a message of peace and love, not the invention of new age belief, but an 'age old', a much older and more fiery concept, and truth, and more real than life itself. Or else.



The Rich Man and Lazarus

19 “There was a rich man who was dressed in purple and fine linen and lived in luxury every day. 20 At his gate was laid a beggar named Lazarus, covered with sores 21 and longing to eat what fell from the rich man’s table. Even the dogs came and licked his sores.
22 “The time came when the beggar died and the angels carried him to Abraham’s side. The rich man also died and was buried. 23 In Hades, where he was in torment, he looked up and saw Abraham far away, with Lazarus by his side. 24 So he called to him, ‘Father Abraham, have pity on me and send Lazarus to dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue, because I am in agony in this fire.’
25 “But Abraham replied, ‘Son, remember that in your lifetime you received your good things, while Lazarus received bad things, but now he is comforted here and you are in agony. 26 And besides all this, between us and you a great chasm has been set in place, so that those who want to go from here to you cannot, nor can anyone cross over from there to us.’
27 “He answered, ‘Then I beg you, father, send Lazarus to my family, 28 for I have five brothers. Let him warn them, so that they will not also come to this place of torment.’
29 “Abraham replied, ‘They have Moses and the Prophets; let them listen to them.’
30 “‘No, father Abraham,’ he said, ‘but if someone from the dead goes to them, they will repent.’
31 “He said to him, ‘If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, they will not be convinced even if someone rises from the dead.’”

Coriolanus

georgieporgy wrote: »

Coriolanus wrote: »

So if his body stayed down here, did it start to decay or was it still imbued with some sort of force/immunity? I'm not being facetious, it just seems to be a logical conclusion to His lifeforce leaving it's vessel. OR when you say glorified body do you mean that somehow his re entering the body set the clock back somehow, or stripped away the mortal element somehow?

Your question isn't clear. Are you referring to the period between his death and resurrection (friday-sunday), or the 40 day period after his resurrection and prior to his ascension?

The three days.

georgieporgy

Coriolanus wrote: »

The three days.

I have no idea if the body began to decay. I would guess it didn't but that's just my opinion. In any case it doesn't matter because once reunited with his soul at the resurrection (about 30 hours after his death) death no longer had any power over it. That's when he now possessed a new 'glorified' type of body no longer governed by the laws of nature.


the link supplied by gimmebroadband above is a good one if you are at all serious about it.

PDN

Coriolanus wrote: »

So if his body stayed down here, did it start to decay or was it still imbued with some sort of force/immunity? I'm not being facetious, it just seems to be a logical conclusion to His lifeforce leaving it's vessel. OR when you say glorified body do you mean that somehow his re entering the body set the clock back somehow, or stripped away the mortal element somehow?

Some believe that Jesus' body, being 100% human, would have suffered some measure of corruption. At His resurrection, the corruptible body was transformed into an incorruptible body - which, according to 1 Corinthians 15:54, is what will happen to our bodies in the future resurrection.

However, some interpret Psalm 16:10 to mean that Christ's body suffered no corroption or decay whatsoever.

Coriolanus

Interesting all round, my thanks to all. I'll read the links when I have a full screen, only on boards via phone for nnow.