1916 Pass - worth the paper it's printed on?

Judgement Day

I have a family heirloom from the 1916 Rising era and I want to know if I can plan my retirement on the basis of its sale value? It is in more legible condition than my poor photograph would indicate but is it of any value? Thanks in advance for any advice.

ResearchWill

Have no idea but an interesting bit of history. Suppose it all depends on how many where issued. I assume if it was for the dates closer to rising it would have more value.

Morlar

That looks very interesting. I think generally these go for a couple of hundred euros. The best bet might be to check the Adams and Whytes back catalogues (online) to see if similar ones have sold and if so for how much.

itchbee

Dont be a moran,,,keep it,,its a family heirloom,one of you relatives was involved in the most important thing ever to happen in Ireland and you want to fob it off for a few quid,if you want to do something with it bring it collins museum where they can display it , instead of some one buying it and keeping it locked away where the people cant see it,,some how your relative helped make this country, and that should be something yopu are proud of, and im not saying your not, just keep it and pass it on so your future generations will know the bravery of your past generations,,,or give it to the museum, where you know people will read about your relative for all time,,so much of our history is being sold, for silly money , and its the leaving the country or being hidden away,,,

Degsy

itchbee wrote: »

Dont be a moran,,,keep it,,its a family heirloom,one of you relatives was involved in the most important thing ever to happen in Ireland and you want to fob it off for a few quid,if you want to do something with it bring it collins museum where they can display it , instead of some one buying it and keeping it locked away where the people cant see it,,some how your relative helped make this country, and that should be something yopu are proud of, and im not saying your not, just keep it and pass it on so your future generations will know the bravery of your past generations,,,or give it to the museum, where you know people will read about your relative for all time,,so much of our history is being sold, for silly money , and its the leaving the country or being hidden away,,,

And a lot of our history is being sold because people need money due to the mistakes of our recent history.

Just sayin'.

Judgement Day

itchbee wrote: »

Dont be a moran,,,keep it,,its a family heirloom,one of you relatives was involved in the most important thing ever to happen in Ireland and you want to fob it off for a few quid,if you want to do something with it bring it collins museum where they can display it , instead of some one buying it and keeping it locked away where the people cant see it,,some how your relative helped make this country, and that should be something yopu are proud of, and im not saying your not, just keep it and pass it on so your future generations will know the bravery of your past generations,,,or give it to the museum, where you know people will read about your relative for all time,,so much of our history is being sold, for silly money , and its the leaving the country or being hidden away,,,

Thanks, but I put a great deal of my money into preserving our heritage back in the 1980s and 1990s, while our illustrious leaders were looting the treasury, and I have no intention of donating anything further to anybody. However, if you feel so strongly about it feel free to make me an offer and then you can donate it to whoever you like.

Dr Strange

Judgement Day wrote: »

... feel free to make me an offer and then you can donate it to whoever you like.

Yep, use PM or www.adverts.ie though.

Fighting Irish

itchbee wrote: »

Dont be a moran,,,keep it,,its a family heirloom,one of you relatives was involved in the most important thing ever to happen in Ireland and you want to fob it off for a few quid,if you want to do something with it bring it collins museum where they can display it , instead of some one buying it and keeping it locked away where the people cant see it,,some how your relative helped make this country, and that should be something yopu are proud of, and im not saying your not, just keep it and pass it on so your future generations will know the bravery of your past generations,,,or give it to the museum, where you know people will read about your relative for all time,,so much of our history is being sold, for silly money , and its the leaving the country or being hidden away,,,

:rolleyes:

so keep it and hide it away or sell it to a museum but don't sell it for silly money in case someone hides it away

coylemj

itchbee wrote: »

Dont be a moran,,,keep it,,its a family heirloom,one of you relatives was involved in the most important thing ever to happen in Ireland and you want to fob it off for a few quid,if you want to do something with it bring it collins museum where they can display it , instead of some one buying it and keeping it locked away where the people cant see it,,some how your relative helped make this country, and that should be something yopu are proud of, and im not saying your not, just keep it and pass it on so your future generations will know the bravery of your past generations,,,or give it to the museum, where you know people will read about your relative for all time,,so much of our history is being sold, for silly money , and its the leaving the country or being hidden away,,,

You're making an awful lot of assumptions there about 'bravery' and how the OP's relatives 'helped make this country' and so on.

The document is a pass authorising someone who lived in Foxrock to pass through Dublin city on Wednesday May 3rd 1916, the week after the Easter Rising, probably because the local British Army GOC had declared martial law and the city centre was still off limits to civilians.

How do you know what business they were at? It's unlikely that anyone directly involved in the rising applied to the DMP for a permit to cross the city in the week after the rising so my guess is that the OP's relative had absolutely no involvement with the conflict in Easter week 1916, despite your romantic theories.

Judgement Day

Here's another heirloom - one that I won't be parting with - and it would indicate that my Grandfather wasn't out for the the Rising.

itchbee

fyi , lots of people involved in the rising applied for passes on the first few days,the dmp and army didnt know one from the other at the time,in collins museum there is an almost identical pass , issued to,(cant remember name at the moment) but at the time he was delivering orders from gpo to jacobs,bolands mill, so yes its possible they had no direct invovlement , but there is also the chance they did, hence the reason i said check the miltary statements to see if the name pops up

Morlar

Judgement Day wrote: »

Here's another heirloom - one that I won't be parting with - and it would indicate that my Grandfather wasn't out for the the Rising.

That one is not showing, I think there is a wordpress error/access issue ?

Judgement Day

Just put it on Adverts.ie here: http://www.adverts.ie/other-antiques-collectables/easter-rising-1916-pass/1817121 first €100,000 or any reasonable offer secures. I haven't been able to establish its true value but have a purchase in mind so an early sale is essential. Go on, somebody save it for the Nation.