Who here has a MkV GTi (DSG in particular)

Gumbo

guys, whats your real world MPG on these?

my previous 2 cars averaged :

E46 320d Auto 150bhp : 37
E39 530d Auto 194bhp : 23

both cars were long term averages (min 6 months without resetting the OBC) so im trying to roughly judge what costs involved in getting into a GTi DSG.

i mostly do finglas - city center commute every day and the odd trip in the evenings. average annual mileage would be 5k approx.

trying to see if the reduced tax costs would balance out the increased petrol and insurance costs.

Jimbob 83

Wouldn't mind knowing either buying in the next week or so and 100% getting a DSG.

Only true figures can be got from an ECU readout though or so i have been told.

Gumbo

Jimbob 83 wrote: »

Wouldn't mind knowing either buying in the next week or so and 100% getting a DSG.

Only true figures can be got from an ECU readout though or so i have been told.

rough personal experiance is good enough for me tbh, dont want any of this VW sales brochure MPG figures sh1t

kceire

kceire wrote: »

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E39 530d Auto 194bhp : 23...........

Have you sold your 530 now?

Gumbo

RoverJames wrote: »

Have you sold your 530 now?

yep, sold it yesterday!

Jimbob 83

30mpg with normal driving seems about the consensus, DSG and remap improve this figure a little

There are so few decent DSG examples out there atm, dealership my dad buys his cars from in tuam has a povery spec one 2006 with average milage up for €11,500, dad thinks it's a great deal

"feck off cup"

Nonoperational

My manual does about 28 Mpg doing 70/30% city driving. Improves to mid 30s if I do more motorway driving but once you start going over 120/130Kph it drops dramitically.


If your budgeting for fuel costs etc with lots of city driving then I'd lean towards 25mpg tbh. Decent car for the money though once the few niggles they can have are sorted out.

unkel

kceire wrote: »

average annual mileage would be 5k approx.

trying to see if the reduced tax costs would balance out the increased petrol and insurance costs.

On your annual mileage, none of those would be material compared to what you are forking out extra (read: depreciation, finance or opportunity costs) when buying the Golf

If you do 23MPG in your 530d, you'd probably do something similar in the GTI DSG. The BMW is much heavier but diesel, the Golf is much lighter but petrol. Most of your driving is commuting stuck in traffic.

The one question pressing me: why downgrade from a 530d to a Golf?

unkel

unkel wrote: »

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The one question pressing me: why downgrade from a 530d to a Golf?

Variety being the spice of life would be my guess, combined with he maybe made decent money on the 530d if past form is anything to go by :cool: Wait 'till you see what's replacing the ZT, grim, very grim.

Jimbob 83

unkel wrote: »

On your annual mileage, none of those would be material compared to what you are forking out extra (read: depreciation, finance or opportunity costs) when buying the Golf

If you do 23MPG in your 530d, you'd probably do something similar in the GTI DSG. The BMW is much heavier but diesel, the Golf is much lighter but petrol. Most of your driving is commuting stuck in traffic.

The one question pressing me: why downgrade from a 530d to a Golf?

DSG Golf is a nice car, why not want one it's a comfortwagon with a fair bit of poke.

Gumbo

RoverJames wrote: »

Variety being the spice of life would be my guess, combined with he maybe made decent money on the 530d if past form is anything to go by :cool: Wait 'till you see what's replacing the ZT, grim, very grim.

You know me too well , bought last July for 5300, sold last night for 6k

unkel wrote: »

On your annual mileage, none of those would be material compared to what you are forking out extra (read: depreciation, finance or opportunity costs) when buying the Golf

If you do 23MPG in your 530d, you'd probably do something similar in the GTI DSG. The BMW is much heavier but diesel, the Golf is much lighter but petrol. Most of your driving is commuting stuck in traffic.

The one question pressing me: why downgrade from a 530d to a Golf?

The 530d was out of tax. i was about to pump 771e for 6 months tax.
the bonnet and front bumper was progressively getting worse due to the stone chips and tbh was starting to look a little rough. it needs an oil change in the summer.

The biggest thing was handing over 1400 road tax for nothing! it just sickened me to the core. im a firm believer of 3 on and 2 off but i dont want that hassle of constantly looking around the corner for a check point any more a 2.0 litre motor tax is cheap in comparisson and i will be paying for a year up front on it.

i see the market changing and theres not many people prepared to by 30d's any more, nobody wants to pay the tax now, so i thought sell it now or i may never sell it, without losing too much that is!

Im not worried about depreciation, i have no car loans and buy whatever car i can with the funds from selling the last, so im just trying to figure out if my weekly costs will go up or down for now?

unkel

RoverJames wrote: »

Variety being the spice of life would be my guess

Nothing wrong at all with a Mk5 GTI, great car! Curious about the downgrade though, it isn't even really faster / sportier than a big saloon like a 530d

RoverJames wrote: »

Wait 'till you see what's replacing the ZT, grim, very grim.

I hope your new car is not some Korean piece of sh1te?

unkel

unkel wrote: »

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I hope your new car is not some Korean piece of sh1te?

Close enough.
Sister's Carisma maybe
Won't be for another couple of months and will only be for a month or two if that.

unkel

@kceire - fair enough, enjoy your new car (whatever you're getting)

kceire wrote: »

Im not worried about depreciation

People in this country generally don't mind suffering several thousand euro a year in depreciation, but do mind several hundred euro in motor tax

Me, I tend to take all costs into account. Funny me

SniperSight

My brother consitently gets slightly north of 35mpg from his manual GTi.

Gumbo

unkel wrote: »

@kceire - fair enough, enjoy your new car (whatever you're getting)



People in this country generally don't mind suffering several thousand euro a year in depreciation, but do mind several hundred euro in motor tax

Me, I tend to take all costs into account. Funny me

Im looking at 05 GTi's that tend to have all the depreciation done already or at least most of it!
One example, i can hop into tomorrow for the same money i got for the E39

166man

unkel wrote: »

Nothing wrong at all with a Mk5 GTI, great car! Curious about the downgrade though, it isn't even really faster / sportier than a big saloon like a 530d





I hope your new car is not some Korean piece of sh1te?

I'd say he's definitely buying an Alfa. Just watch the timing belts on them RJ...;)

166man

166man wrote: »

I'd say he's definitely buying an Alfa. ......

As I've said many times I'd consider a 2.0 or a 2.5 Alfa.

unkel

kceire wrote: »

Im looking at 05 GTi's that tend to have all the depreciation done already or at least most of it!
One example, i can hop into tomorrow for the same money i got for the E39

'05 GTI for E39 530d money? Go for it so

I had no idea Mk5 GTIs were so cheap now. Apologies for my previous arguments!

166man

RoverJames wrote: »

As I've said many times I'd consider a 2.0 or a 2.5 Alfa.

Ah sure I'd consider an MG, would never buy one though. I was joking though...;)

166man

166man wrote: »

........ I was joking though...;)

Don't give up the day job

166man

RoverJames wrote: »

Don't give up the day job

ah sure c'mon.. bit of humour on a Friday like...:rolleyes: :pac:

Nonoperational

Just be aware that the 05s and some of the 06s have the AXX engine code which means the diverter valve and the PCV valve will probably need to be changed if not done already. If it feels a bit flat on the test drive that will almost certainly be the case. If you could scan it with Vagcom before buying it'd be nice.

Gumbo

gpf101 wrote: »

Just be aware that the 05s and some of the 06s have the AXX engine code which means the diverter valve and the PCV valve will probably need to be changed if not done already. If it feels a bit flat on the test drive that will almost certainly be the case. If you could scan it with Vagcom before buying it'd be nice.

is it a big/expensive job?

Nonoperational

Nah, €250 would probably sort both. You mightn't need to but the early diverter valves were crap and tore very easily. Boost leaks out and you loose power. I'd also get the cam follower checked. If you google MKV Gti Cam follower you'll see why. About €30 to get it checked and about €50 to replace it.

ShadowHearth

23 mpg out of 530d sounds quite low... Surely people are getting more out of it.

And what's the obsession with that dsg gearbox? I talked to mechanic and all he said - go for manual.

ShadowHearth

ShadowHearth wrote: »

23 mpg out of 530d sounds quite low... Surely people are getting more out of it............

Sounds realistic for mainly urban spins to me, one of the few realistic mpg figures I've seen on boards tbh.

ShadowHearth

RoverJames wrote: »

Sounds realistic for mainly urban spins to me, one of the few realistic mpg figures I've seen on boards tbh.

No one likes to admit high mpg

A few days ago 30mpg was described as very heavy on petrol, only on boards.ie would you see that me thinks, unless you surfed tree hugging sites.

Gumbo

ShadowHearth wrote: »

23 mpg out of 530d sounds quite low... Surely people are getting more out of it.

99% commuting use. i drove to galway last year with 4 lads, boot full of beer and clothes and that trip averages 44MPG, so once you fit the motorway or a decent speed, ie. 40mph the MPG goes north greatly!

ShadowHearth wrote: »

And what's the obsession with that dsg gearbox? I talked to mechanic and all he said - go for manual.

DSG box is fantastic, auto for comfy cruising and lightening quick gear chabges when you want spped

after running an M3 SMG for a loaner, i was converted! and also considering my last 3 cars have been auto, im an auto person

JoeA3

I had one for 4 years. 27-28mpg. Around 500-550kms per tank (55L tank). On a long journey with a light right foot you'd possibly get 35mpg ish.