Amendments to planning

Bobs77

Hello I need some help and advice, we received planning permission in rural Cavan, to get planning permission the architect placed the house 30 meters from the road at a bottom of the hill, this is too close to the road so we since spoken to the architect and he said yeah you can put it back to 45 meters from the road. My other half is okay to go on the direction of the the architect because he has to sign off on it. But I have my doubts as this is moving the house back quite a bit and possibly against the county councils wishes. How should we proceed??? Any advice??

rayjdav

I would suggest that you(your Arch) have a meeting with, and submit a revised drawing to, the Senior Planner for your area and they may approve the amendment without the need to re-apply. Obviously all to be done before you turn a sod on the site.

This way then there would be no confusion or hold up down the line if you must sell the house and also not to give banks any reason to stall your draw downs either, as they very well could.

Bobs77

Many thanks Rajidav for your comments, we certainly need the advice.

sydthebeat

rayjdav wrote: »

I would suggest that you(your Arch) have a meeting with, and submit a revised drawing to, the Senior Planner for your area and they may approve the amendment without the need to re-apply. Obviously all to be done before you turn a sod on the site.

This way then there would be no confusion or hold up down the line if you must sell the house and also not to give banks any reason to stall your draw downs either, as they very well could.

In my experience if you deviate ANY from what you have permission for, the council will require full planning application again. They dont tend to deal in grey areas.

Ive had to retain full houses because they were moved 5 meters due to rock in the foundations.

Going to the council is the only way you will get the official line.
But at the end of the day its your architect who is expected to certify compliance.

Mellor

Moving it by 15 metres needs approval.


Why is 30 metres too close?
That should of really been discussed before planning was lodged.

rayjdav

sydthebeat wrote: »

In my experience if you deviate ANY from what you have permission for, the council will require full planning application again. They dont tend to deal in grey areas.

In the past I have had a house rotated 180 degrees from what was granted and also 2 moved from the location noted in planning, 1 of which sold a while back with no problems from solicitors, but as said, it was done with written agreement as soon as after the decision was made and the alternate proposal submitted to file.

Bobs77

30 meters is too close to the road, its at the bottom of a slope/hill with no view and it wouldnt do the house justice if we move it back up on the hill just a little bit there are some lovely views. This was a decision the architect made to get planning he didn’t think we would get planning if we had it back that far. (and yes we have learned lessons here) I don’t think I should elaborate any further on the house itself.
Thank you all for your comments, they are very helpful.

sydthebeat

Bobs77 wrote: »

30 meters is too close to the road, its at the bottom of a slope/hill with no view and it wouldnt do the house justice if we move it back up on the hill just a little bit there are some lovely views. This was a decision the architect made to get planning he didn’t think we would get planning if we had it back that far. (and yes we have learned lessons here) I don’t think I should elaborate any further on the house itself.
Thank you all for your comments, they are very helpful.

the he would be a very silly an unprofessional person if he was to say it was compliant with planning permission if it was set back further.

Remember that the more you can see from your house, the more your house can be seen from everywhere else.

This goes against planning policy where houses are supposed to be non obtrusive in the landscape.

Personally, i think you would be asking for serious trouble by moving the house back without approval of the planning authority.

rayjdav

Bobs77 wrote: »

30 meters is too close to the road, its at the bottom of a slope/hill with no view and it wouldnt do the house justice if we move it back up on the hill just a little bit there are some lovely views. This was a decision the architect made to get planning he didn’t think we would get planning if we had it back that far. (and yes we have learned lessons here) I don’t think I should elaborate any further on the house itself.
Thank you all for your comments, they are very helpful.

Bobs77,
My examples above are from "clean" permissions, ie there were no 3rd party submissions on file and in fairness, they were very straightforward applications. The Jnr planners had conditioned the rotating of the house 180degrees initially from what we applied for, senior planner changed the permission back to what was applied for. After grant and all on file.

I would have a look at the planners final report and see if they made comment as to the location, as this may give you your answer straightaway.
What Syd said above is very true, would be a silly ARCH, for him and you, to sign something thats false information. Also, as he said too, the more you go up the hill, the more you destroy the natural landscape and viewlines.