bog surveilance

scholar007

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2012/0521/1224316456680.html

You seriously couldnt make this stuff up - The country is broke yet the government is paying out big bucks sending the air corps and private contractors up to conduct surveilance on Paddy saving a bit of turf to keep himself warm.

An Udaras

Probably viewed in a similar (but to a lot lessor degree) as the Maritime Surveillance carried by the IACs CASAs when their not on Ministerial Jaunts.

I had pleasure of been on the old Super King Airs years ago when they undertook the later role.

I presume its the Cessna undertaking this role.

milewidehead

scholar007 wrote: »

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2012/0521/1224316456680.html

You seriously couldnt make this stuff up - The country is broke yet the government is paying out big bucks sending the air corps and private contractors up to conduct surveilance on Paddy saving a bit of turf to keep himself warm.

Heard about this! Do a bit of flying over the bogs myself -( never below 500feet mind, Mr. IAA man!), better fly higher now to stay out of any "Farmers Flak".
Wonder if this story is true though, or just a Psy-Ops. wheez by the Blueshirts to put the fear of God (and passing aircraft), in any poor slob daring to commit the unspeakable act of Turf-Cutting. Whats next - deportation on prison ships to Van Dieman's land?

scholar007

milewidehead wrote: »

Heard about this! Do a bit of flying over the bogs myself -( never below 500feet mind, Mr. IAA man!), better fly higher now to stay out of any "Farmers Flak".
Wonder if this story is true though, or just a Psy-Ops. wheez by the Blueshirts to put the fear of God (and passing aircraft), in any poor slob daring to commit the unspeakable act of Turf-Cutting. Whats next - deportation on prison ships to Van Dieman's land?

Cuts in the support services for disabled kids. Wards closed in hospitals. Patients dying on trolleys. The Government response - spend money on spotter aircraft to catch people cutting turf - Like wtf is going on? Are all those teachers in government suffering from some collective dementia or lunacy?

milewidehead

This is just another example of our Government bending over and taking it up the swiss-roll from the E.U. According to Ming the Merciless they did'nt even bother to negotiate on behalf of the turf-cutters. Beneath them, probably. On a B.S. level, it's right up there with the famous snails stopping the progress of the motorway around Kilcullen!.

goldie fish

milewidehead wrote: »

This is just another example of our Government bending over and taking it up the swiss-roll from the E.U. According to Ming the Merciless they did'nt even bother to negotiate on behalf of the turf-cutters. Beneath them, probably. On a B.S. level, it's right up there with the famous snails stopping the progress of the motorway around Kilcullen!.

Ming thinks we are Nazis now.

If we are, he'll be the first to be on the train to the camps.


(Godwins Law invoked)

dilallio

scholar007 wrote: »

Cuts in the support services for disabled kids. Wards closed in hospitals. Patients dying on trolleys. The Government response - spend money on spotter aircraft to catch people cutting turf - Like wtf is going on? Are all those teachers in government suffering from some collective dementia or lunacy?

No.

The EU have told the government that Ireland will be fined €25,000 per day if the illegal turf-cutting isn't stopped.
Source

scholar007

dilallio wrote: »

No.

The EU have told the government that Ireland will be fined €25,000 per day if the illegal turf-cutting isn't stopped.
Source

Methinks there are times when the EU should be told where to go.

Given a choice between the Brits or the EU calling the shots, I think we should hand the keys of the country back to the Brits with an apology for the state its in.

Turf has been cut in Ireland for centuries and all of a sudden its illegal? - Daft!

goldie fish

Trees were cut for centuries in the Sahara too, and it did them no harm....

meathstevie

Is a bog that has been drained not essentially FUBAR anyway ?

emmet the rover

there is nothing wrong with turf that has been cut properly. it does very little damage to the bog system.

Morpheus

Just asking, can you explain how turf cutting is sustainable, I was under the impression that it took combustible turf millions of years to form?

emmet the rover

Morphéus wrote: »

Just asking, can you explain how turf cutting is sustainable, I was under the impression that it took combustible turf millions of years to form?

a healthy bog is a ecosystem that grows, while other fossl fuels coal, oil ect are produced trough thousands of years of decomposition,heat and pressure.

the way my family cut turf was to remove the top live layer and put to one side then cut down into the sod underneth harvesting the turf and when this was completed replacing the top layer on the sod allowing the bog to regrow.
there are more industrial methods that produce the same effect and many that just strip off the layers. the point is there is a viable way to sustainably cut turf