Demonic Oppression and Communication b/w Demons

Brer Fox

What do you think about the whole realm of the demonic?

I can think of one person I know who I think is infested with demons. I feel oppressed in their presence, and I think that demons have also attached themselves to me, and that the demons in the other person communicate with the demons attached to me and oppress me.

I am not possessed, but I do think I am oppressed, as are most if not all people at one time or another.

Thoughts?

recedite

Jesuits are considered the best kind of priests for kicking demonic ass.

HamletOrHecuba

recedite wrote: »

Jesuits are considered the best kind of priests for kicking demonic ass.

Are they? I would have thought the Dominicans, no?

@ OP- find a believing Priest and make the best confession possible of everything you can think of, than go to an Eastern Rite or Latin Mass and Commune after fasting and preparing the best you can. Read the Gospels! Especially the Gospel of St John. Praying Pslams out loud also is very effective against demonic attack.

Doc Farrell

If you feel that your life is less that it should be because of a presence that you consider demonic then there are a number of steps that you should take. The most important is to talk to someone sympathetic about it. I can recommend an elderly priest that you can talk to anonymously if you want to pm me.

Life is good, not evil. Returning to a balanced emotional state where you can Feel the goodness of life is your right. To be blunt, remove your emotions from your interactions with the person that is upsetting you.

William Barry SJ, an octogenarian Jesuit, is a very good writer on the purpose of prayer. Here's an example of his writing. No demon can combat love.


Ignatius believed that all human beings have experiences of God’s creative and sustaining love. If we pay attention to these experiences, we will find that during them we desire God with all our heart and, at the same time, feel an enormous sense of well-being. Caught up in this experience, we feel that everything and everyone pales in comparison. We want this Mystery more than we want anything or anyone else. We become—for the moment, at least—free of inordinate attachments to people and things, or “indifferent,” as Ignatius says; we would not want to choose anything that would take us away from the object of this desire for “we know not what,” the Mystery we call God. A long life, health, riches—these all pale in comparison to the Mystery we desire.

--Excerpted from A Friendship Like No Other by William A. Barry

Edit: I would be careful about considering another human being as infested with demons. Sometimes all it takes is a bad dad to destroy a weak personality. Whatever you do, don't try to exorcise them yourself!

Brer Fox

Doc Farrell wrote: »

If you feel that your life is less that it should be because of a presence that you consider demonic then there are a number of steps that you should take. The most important is to talk to someone sympathetic about it. I can recommend an elderly priest that you can talk to anonymously if you want to pm me.

Life is good, not evil. Returning to a balanced emotional state where you can Feel the goodness of life is your right. To be blunt, remove your emotions from your interactions with the person that is upsetting you.

William Barry SJ, an octogenarian Jesuit, is a very good writer on the purpose of prayer. Here's an example of his writing. No demon can combat love.


Ignatius believed that all human beings have experiences of God’s creative and sustaining love. If we pay attention to these experiences, we will find that during them we desire God with all our heart and, at the same time, feel an enormous sense of well-being. Caught up in this experience, we feel that everything and everyone pales in comparison. We want this Mystery more than we want anything or anyone else. We become—for the moment, at least—free of inordinate attachments to people and things, or “indifferent,” as Ignatius says; we would not want to choose anything that would take us away from the object of this desire for “we know not what,” the Mystery we call God. A long life, health, riches—these all pale in comparison to the Mystery we desire.

--Excerpted from A Friendship Like No Other by William A. Barry

Yeah I guess.

I live in a very abusive home you see. Because I am presently unemployed, there's nowhere really I can go so for now I have to live with my abusive parents.

Jarndyce

Brer Fox wrote: »

Yeah I guess.

I live in a very abusive home you see. Because I am presently unemployed, there's nowhere really I can go so for now I have to live with my abusive parents.

Maybe you should get a job and stop worrying about demons.

HamletOrHecuba

Also listening to Gregorian or Byzantine Chant can be very helpful to lift spiritually oppressive moods and restoring hope and balance.

Jarndyce

HamletOrHecuba wrote: »

Also listening to Gregorian or Byzantine Chant can be very helpful to lift spiritually oppressive moods and restoring hope and balance.

Are you fukkin serious?

Corkfeen

Brer Fox wrote: »

Yeah I guess.

I live in a very abusive home you see. Because I am presently unemployed, there's nowhere really I can go so for now I have to live with my abusive parents.

I'm not exactly sure of your circumstances but the fact you say it's an abusive home. You should contact a support group of some variety for help. An example, I'm not sure on groups but here's one I found on google.
http://www.safeireland.ie/getting-help/

HamletOrHecuba

Jarndyce wrote: »

Maybe you should get a job and stop worrying about demons.

Unemployment is what levels in this country? If only it was that simple.

However there is an old saying that the devil will find work for idle hands to do- trying to maintain discipline and a schedule is good when unemployed, think of taking up jogging, doing voluntary work, etc. Keeping active is important for our inner health.

Jarndyce

Guys is there an amulet or any accessory of some sort that can help to repel demons? The way garlic repels vampires. Has anyone heard of anything like this that is effective?

Keylem

The cross of St Benedict is still the most used instrument used by exorcists to set the victims of demons free. I have two of them in my home. Also the Rosary is very powerful, Satan hates it!

http://www.st-benedict-medal.com/saint-benedict-cross.htm

Doc Farrell

That sounds horrendous and unfair. There is nothing more important than talking about it. Get it out of your system. Have a chat with a kind person, there are many saints on the Samaritans phoneline. Have a read of Anthony De mellos book Awareness. You don't have to tackle the emotional demons of others.
Best to write down on paper what you want and tick off each small goal one by one.
It's easier said than done but write down twenty small goals and if you achieve ten of them your life will be transformed.
Don't worry about demons, a simple prayer will defend you against any troubles. That's pure orthodoxy!

Pm me if you want the name of a kind Jesuit you can talk to in confession anonymously.

Doc Farrell

Jarndyce wrote: »

Guys is there an amulet or any accessory of some sort that can help to repel demons? The way garlic repels vampires. Has anyone heard of anything like this that is effective?

No. All of that is nonsense. Love is all you need.

Depression is a more serious illness than demons. Communication, talking, action, a sympathetic support system, moderate exercise, most importantly, the avoidance of Internet mockery and bullying, all these things will transform your life.

Pm me if you need phone numbers of free kind professionals to talk to.

http://www.aware.ie/

Every human needs support and help. Seeking it is not a sign of weakness but of intelligence and constructive change.

Fuinseog

HamletOrHecuba wrote: »

Are they? I would have thought the Dominicans, no?

@ OP- find a believing Priest and make the best confession possible of everything you can think of, than go to an Eastern Rite or Latin Mass and Commune after fasting and preparing the best you can. Read the Gospels! Especially the Gospel of St John. Praying Pslams out loud also is very effective against demonic attack.

Dominicans are only good for running things like the inquisition.

Sonics2k

Looks more like a case of depression to me.

It's not demons, it's your mind. I can utterly relate to this as I've suffered from depression for some 15 years now.

Try and arrange to speak to the therapist, especially if you're living in an abusive home.

HamletOrHecuba

Sonics2k wrote: »

Looks more like a case of depression to me.

It's not demons, it's your mind. I can utterly relate to this as I've suffered from depression for some 15 years now.

Try and arrange to speak to the therapist, especially if you're living in an abusive home.

It could be depression, it could be demonic oppression- or it could well be both. If they feelings dont lift after praying the pslams out loud over a few days than he should consider seeing a doctor. Its easy to slip into depression after being made unemployed.

Brer Fox

With all the messers on this thread, it's hard to know who is being serious.

I have suffered from homosexual bullying at school and now my own parents have turned against me and they mock me and question my sexuality and so on. It's very hurtful. I mean, you expect it from school-yard bullies but from your own parents? That's not right.

I'm looking at ways I can move out but it's not easy being unemployed and no prospect of a job. They also beat up on me about that. They tell me what a failure I am.

Maybe some kind soul might pray for me tonight.

EDIT: I should also say I'm working for nothing at the moment, but that is coming to an end soon and I will be unemployed again. I can't find paid employment so I am currently working unpaid under a government scheme. Well, they pay benefits, but not minimum wage.

HamletOrHecuba

http://www.angelfire.com/planet/parastos/akathisttheotokos.html

This prayer from the 8 th century works very well against both depression and demonic oppression. Reading the Gospel of St John, especially standing up out loud also works well against both. Daily reading of the Gospels can really make a huge difference.

PDN

Brer Fox wrote: »

With all the messers on this thread, it's hard to know who is being serious.

I have suffered from homosexual bullying at school and now my own parents have turned against me and they mock me and question my sexuality and so on. It's very hurtful. I mean, you expect it from school-yard bullies but from your own parents? That's not right.

I'm looking at ways I can move out but it's not easy being unemployed and no prospect of a job. They also beat up on me about that.

Maybe some kind soul might pray for me tonight.

Praying for you.

Brer Fox

PDN wrote: »

Praying for you.

Thanks PDN. I appreciate it.

Corkfeen

Brer Fox wrote: »

With all the messers on this thread, it's hard to know who is being serious.

I have suffered from homosexual bullying at school and now my own parents have turned against me and they mock me and question my sexuality and so on. It's very hurtful. I mean, you expect it from school-yard bullies but from your own parents? That's not right.

I'm looking at ways I can move out but it's not easy being unemployed and no prospect of a job. They also beat up on me about that.

Maybe some kind soul might pray for me tonight.

I'd personally recommend that you try out counselling or something of the sort. Tell your parents to stop mocking you and explain that you're unhappy. Attributing this to demons isn't the way to look at this. People can be absolute bastards in life to you. Your best option is to discuss your feelings to a counselor or psychiatrist and attempt to get your parents to cease their mocking. I really am sympathetic to your situation.

Brer Fox

Corkfeen wrote: »

I'd personally recommend that you try out counselling or something of the sort. Tell your parents to stop mocking you and explain that you're unhappy. Attributing this to demons isn't the way to look at this. People can be absolute bastards in life to you. Your best option is to discuss your feelings to a counselor or psychiatrist and attempt to get your parents to cease their mocking. I really am sympathetic to your situation.

I think the best thing to do, as soon as possible, is move out.

'Leave the dead to bury their dead' and 'Come out from among them'.

Those verses have been on my mind for over a year now. I hope to God that soon will be my deliverance and I can step out of oppressive darkness into the full day-light of God's love.

HamletOrHecuba

Brer Fox wrote: »

Maybe some kind soul might pray for me tonight.

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I will pray for you and try to remember to keep you in my prayers.

Life is often very harsh and ugly, so I think its important to try and focus on beauty- the lives of the saints and genuinely spiritual music, or even classical music with religious themes that can express spiritual sentiments such as Bach can be very helpful I have found. Also trying to help others if possible. Its important that we dont overly dwell on our own selves- which is much easier said than done.

Brer Fox

HamletOrHecuba wrote: »

I will pray for you and try to remember to keep you in my prayers.

Life is often very harsh and ugly, so I think its important to try and focus on beauty- the lives of the saints and genuinely spiritual music, or even classical music with religious themes that can express spiritual sentiments such as Bach can be very helpful I have found. Also trying to help others if possible. Its important that we dont overly dwell on our own selves- which is much easier said than done.

Thanks. Can you recommend any Bach? I wouldn't know where to start!

HamletOrHecuba

Brer Fox wrote: »

Thanks. Can you recommend any Bach? I wouldn't know where to start!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3AbnE7j8958

This is one of my favourites.

Doc Farrell

You are clearly a highly literate and intelligent person but like a lot of people in the world you don't have access to the support structure and clear advice needed for you to move forward.
Please take my suggestion and write down 20 small changes that you would like to make, easy changes eg wardrobe, riding a bike, singing in a big choir (some of the church choirs are extraordinary), computer courses, further education courses.
Make a list, no matter how silly.
If you want to pm me no problem.
I know plenty of gay people, men and women. Their politics, sexuality and religious views don't matter a damn to me. Only their hearts.
Have a chat with Samaritans or aware.ie or pm me and I'll find a local structure that can help you move forward.
First thing, get a pen in your hand and write down 20 small changes that could help.
One major change for me was getting out of debt. The stress of bills is a magnifying glass on all other problems. I know the stress of being unemployed, it's a raging nuisance.
But it's clear that you are smarter than the average citizen so keep that in mind and Write Down 20 small changes that you can use to push things forward in your day.

Be sure of this: nothing stays the same. Change is the only constant. Whether the changes are to your advantage or not is pretty much up to you. Right now.

HamletOrHecuba

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6EurgsdeF8&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fi8Q2Dy7Iyk&feature=related

I find this Eastern hymn to the Mother of God very helpful in dealing with negative thoughts.

Archeron

Brer Fox wrote: »

Maybe some kind soul might pray for me tonight.
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Done my friend. And I have no idea why I am in this thread, I never view or post in this forum.

Brer Fox

Archeron wrote: »

Done my friend. And I have no idea why I am in this thread, I never view or post in this forum.

God brought you here.

Keylem

Brer Fox wrote: »

With all the messers on this thread, it's hard to know who is being serious.
what a failure I am.

Maybe some kind soul might pray for me tonight.

Done!

Northclare

I remember being in a stressful situation.
I was told to pray and meditate and do all these holy rituals by the gurus,spiritualist's,holy Joes,and non medical experts.

My head was melted from all the praying and meditation LOL

So one dark night of the soul I threw it out there to what ever is my first thought in the morning,ill do that....

I woke up went straight to my GP and got help, what I was suffering from was reactive depression.
It was something in life I could not cope with I had hit rock bottom.

That was 4 years ago today my life is great
you will be ok.

From experience the first step is seek advise from a GP they have heard it all a thousand times before, LOL I thought I was possessed too and it was a case of anxiety and reactive depression and lack of serotonin.

HamletOrHecuba

Northclare wrote: »

I remember being in a stressful situation.
I was told to pray and meditate and do all these holy rituals by the gurus,spiritualist's,holy Joes,and non medical experts.

My head was melted from all the praying and meditation LOL

So one dark night of the soul I threw it out there to what ever is my first thought in the morning,ill do that....

I woke up went straight to my GP and got help, what I was suffering from was reactive depression.
It was something in life I could not cope with I had hit rock bottom.

That was 4 years ago today my life is great
you will be ok.

From experience the first step is seek advise from a GP they have heard it all a thousand times before, LOL I thought I was possessed too and it was a case of anxiety and reactive depression and lack of serotonin.

The thing is that sometimes depression and anxiety has a physical cause, but sometimes it has psychological and spiritual causes; addressing problems physical in origin with psychological and spiritual tools often wont work, but if problems are deeper than a chemical imbalance than anti-depressants might take away some of the sting but thats all. I am NOT saying that he should NOT go his GP though- that advice worth taking.

Northclare

I know you mean well.
I was just giving my experience strength and hope.

I wasn't cross sharing your post

It's just from listening to people who went the holistic,spiritual,holy route, and hearing about guru's in 12 step programs telling people they have a spiritual problem that can be only fixed with a spiritual solution.

THROW AWAY THE PILLS YOU DON'T NEED THEM NOW BECAUSE IT'S OUR WAY OR NO WAY

Im a spiritual guy but if I'm depressed and the prayer meditation walks etc are not working,I'm loosing weight etc no Mount Melery or Buddhist Retreat center is going to fix me.

It's ok to be praying, meditating, and looking after others but when that hole in the soul is there and Iv spent a week of my allocated work holidays in a monastery and prayed and handed my will and life to God for 2 months solid after,and I'm gone from 13 stone to 9 and some big book bashing idiot tells me to get down on my knees more.

GP is my option then

By the way I'm not on any medication

gimmebroadband

Good for you NorthClare, glad to hear everything worked out for you!

gimmebroadband

Brer Fox, your situation is one of the saddest I've heard in a long time. I would certainly go and visit your GP, in addition it would be helpful to pray the Rosary and bless yourself daily with Holy Water. I hope you will find peace and good health. You are assured of my prayers.