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Registration Questionaire

  • 14-05-2012 11:01pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,318 ✭✭✭✭


    Copy and past this into your reply and answer all the questions as best you can, im just wondering what the general thinking is on this subject. It would be great if as many people on here answer as possible to get a good cross section of the classic scene.

    1. what do you think of the 5 Digit ZV plates?

    2. What do you think of the new post 5/12/11 Year/County Import registration series?

    3. Does the number on your car make any difference to you?

    4. Do you place any more value on an original Irish registration over an import number.

    5. Would you be in favour of scrapping the current import registration series in favour of a proper age related series.

    6. Ringing, is it a big deal?

    7. If, by some crazy chance you could buy an old series registration for a sum of money(probably the 1000eu charged for new issues) would you over a ZV/year plate?

    Thanks..:)


Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,733 ✭✭✭✭corktina


    1. what do you think of the 5 Digit ZV plates?
    Ridiculous, spoil the look of a Classic Car and defeat the object of "preserving" thenm as Heritage items

    2. What do you think of the new post 5/12/11 Year/County Import registration series?
    even worse

    3. Does the number on your car make any difference to you?
    Yes. It needs to look in keeping with the age of the vehicle

    4. Do you place any more value on an original Irish registration over an import number.

    yes I do.Unfortunately original numbers have been abused by ringers to the point that I doubt the authenticity of most I see

    5. Would you be in favour of scrapping the current import registration series in favour of a proper age related series.
    yes indeed

    6. Ringing, is it a big deal?
    yes it is. The point of concessions for heritage items is to encourage preservation of them, the real value of an Original is always eroded by large numbers of fakes

    7. If, by some crazy chance you could buy an old series registration for a sum of money(probably the 1000eu charged for new issues) would you over a ZV/year plate?
    i would love to, assuming I could afford it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 183 ✭✭selfdiy


    1. what do you think of the 5 Digit ZV plates?
    They dont give any detail on where the car is from, which I find interesting.

    2. What do you think of the new post 5/12/11 Year/County Import registration series? Seems odd.

    3. Does the number on your car make any difference to you?
    Yes. I also like the white number plate at the front and red at the back

    4. Do you place any more value on an original Irish registration over an import number. Yes I think they bring more nostalgia to the vehicle.

    5. Would you be in favour of scrapping the current import registration series in favour of a proper age related series. Yes

    6. Ringing, is it a big deal? Yes I dont see the point of faking it, particularly if you know so.

    7. If, by some crazy chance you could buy an old series registration for a sum of money(probably the 1000eu charged for new issues) would you over a ZV/year plate? No, I'd buy a year plate before the zv, I dont like the large number of digits after the zv, many of the year plates may only have 3 digits depending on county


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 687 ✭✭✭steinbock123


    1. what do you think of the 5 Digit ZV plates? Absolutely ridiculous. It makes a bad, ill thought-out system even worse.

    2. What do you think of the new post 5/12/11 Year/County Import registration series? Just as bad as the ZV system. Obviously dreamed up by a bicycle-riding civil servant.

    3. Does the number on your car make any difference to you?
    Yes. I would much rather an age related plate, as in the UK.
    4. Do you place any more value on an original Irish registration over an import number. The reg. no. is part of the history of the car, but it doesn't make the car itself more valuable in my opinion.

    5. Would you be in favour of scrapping the current import registration series in favour of a proper age related series.
    Yes! Yes! A thousand times yes!!
    6. Ringing, is it a big deal? Depends on what you mean by a big deal. Until the powers that be bring in a proper age-related numbering system it will remain a fact of life.

    7. If, by some crazy chance you could buy an old series registration for a sum of money(probably the 1000eu charged for new issues) would you over a ZV/year plate? I would gladly change, although €1000 is a bit steep I would have thought for anything other than an ''interesting'' number.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,755 ✭✭✭ianobrien


    1. what do you think of the 5 Digit ZV plates?

    Don't like it at all. The 5 digits look too big. A system as proposed by somenbody here of ZVA ***, ZVB *** ect would look much better. It still doesn't give the year though

    2. What do you think of the new post 5/12/11 Year/County Import registration series?

    Disaster - Is the plate big enough at all?

    3. Does the number on your car make any difference to you?

    When we got the car, it wasn't over 30 years old and we got 77 C 10** (I'm not giving the last two digits). I had the option of changing it to a ZV, but as the numbers were 25000 plus, I didn't as the number looked too high

    4. Do you place any more value on an original Irish registration over an import number.

    None - I look at the car and the condition of the car. However, given the amount of ringing that goes on in classic cars giving imports "Irish" numbers, I would check "Original Irish Registered" very carefully...

    5. Would you be in favour of scrapping the current import registration series in favour of a proper age related series.

    YES!

    6. Ringing, is it a big deal?

    Bloody hate it. When we bought the Escort, we were offered on five different occasions the logbook & classis plates off long gone Irish cars. We paid the few bob and registered the car properly. Now, there is no questions about the car's numbers.

    7. If, by some crazy chance you could buy an old series registration for a sum of money(probably the 1000eu charged for new issues) would you over a ZV/year plate?

    No


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,318 ✭✭✭✭carchaeologist


    Keep them coming lads, interesting stuff.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 576 ✭✭✭MrFoxman360


    1. what do you think of the 5 Digit ZV plates?

    Don't like them too much but are better than a year plate


    2. What do you think of the new post 5/12/11 Year/County Import registration series?

    They are awful, don't suit classic cars at all, I hate to see them, but there is no other choice.


    3. Does the number on your car make any difference to you?

    Yes, I would not like a car with the new type numbers, either zv or year related, but I could live with the zv version I suppose


    4. Do you place any more value on an original Irish registration over an import number.

    Yes, very much so. Classic and vintage cars, are to me, about history and heritage, the reg number is an integral part of that. Depends what you are in classic cars for, the cars or the heritage, or both


    5. Would you be in favour of scrapping the current import registration series in favour of a proper age related series.

    Yes, if it could ever happen,


    6. Ringing, is it a big deal?

    Yes, I think it is to a certian extent, its nice to retain old irish reg numbers and all but it can lead to issues with invalid insurance. It also diminishes the value of an 'original Irish car' as there are plenty of fake ones around now! People also take advantage of something that they can get away with, and will push it too far. Of course it is also illegal and the revenue loose out on a small amount too... oh no!

    7. If, by some crazy chance you could buy an old series registration for a sum of money(probably the 1000eu charged for new issues) would you over a ZV/year plate?

    Yea, I would love to have the oppertunity to do this, but would not pay a grand for it, maybe half that, but I'm sure others would pay it. More details needed to make a proper comment, if the numbers are not distingt in some way from the old ones, would there be a feeling that they would devalue (not monetary value, their heritage value) the originals


  • Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,631 ✭✭✭✭antodeco


    1. what do you think of the 5 Digit ZV plates?
    They can look very daft, but it does depend on the car

    2. What do you think of the new post 5/12/11 Year/County Import registration series?
    Stupid. I can't explain it any other way.

    3. Does the number on your car make any difference to you?
    Not majorly. I've an 80 CW and an 89 C so no.

    4. Do you place any more value on an original Irish registration over an import number.
    I'd love one, but due to the next question, it just wouldn't feel right

    5. Would you be in favour of scrapping the current import registration series in favour of a proper age related series.
    Yes

    6. Ringing, is it a big deal?
    I think of more than 60% has been replaced, it's not the original car :)

    7. If, by some crazy chance you could buy an old series registration for a sum of money(probably the 1000eu charged for new issues) would you over a ZV/year plate?
    Yes, again if I could afford it


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 2,957 Mod ✭✭✭✭macplaxton


    1. what do you think of the 5 Digit ZV plates?
    ****.

    2. What do you think of the new post 5/12/11 Year/County Import registration series?
    ****.

    3. Does the number on your car make any difference to you?
    No, but the format does.

    4. Do you place any more value on an original Irish registration over an import number.
    No.

    5. Would you be in favour of scrapping the current import registration series in favour of a proper age related series.
    Yes.

    6. Ringing, is it a big deal?
    Yes. Points system broadly similar to the UK should be used to determine the identity of vehicle.

    7. If, by some crazy chance you could buy an old series registration for a sum of money(probably the 1000eu charged for new issues) would you over a ZV/year plate?
    No.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,003 ✭✭✭bijapos


    1. what do you think of the 5 Digit ZV plates?

    They don't look too good, especially if you're old enough to remember the old 3 number 3 digit ones. They should have used up some old numbers that were never used




    2. What do you think of the new post 5/12/11 Year/County Import registration series?


    Awful, awful, awful. How the hell they thought it looked good I never know. Proof at least that the SIMI have no interest in cars, just putting money in the pockets of a few dealers selling new cars.



    3. Does the number on your car make any difference to you?

    Yes, it can make a difference, depends on the car tbh



    4. Do you place any more value on an original Irish registration over an import number.

    A bit, I'd be prepared to pay a bit more for an original pre-87 Irish car with an original number over an import if they were in the exact same condition, but not a crazy premium



    5. Would you be in favour of scrapping the current import registration series in favour of a proper age related series.

    If you mean with an expansion of the "ZV" system with other letters then yes.



    6. Ringing, is it a big deal?

    Yes it is. Essentiall if you're caught without the correct papers for the car it can be confiscated. I don't agree with the VRT or tax rates but we should pay them. If someone is dodging their tax payments, it means I'm paying more in the long run for them.

    Ringing should be rigorously tackled by the government.



    7. If, by some crazy chance you could buy an old series registration for a sum of money(probably the 1000eu charged for new issues) would you over a ZV/year plate?

    Hmmmmmmmm.......... to an extent yes, but it might devalue a bit those who made an effort to keep their original Irish cars over the years.

    €1000 is way too much, €250 would ensure a bigger take up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,060 ✭✭✭Kenny Logins


    1. what do you think of the 5 Digit ZV plates?
    Prefer shorter, but could live with one if I had to.
    2. What do you think of the new post 5/12/11 Year/County Import registration series?
    Terrible.

    3. Does the number on your car make any difference to you?
    Yes. I've never had one (classic car reg) longer than 6 characters.

    4. Do you place any more value on an original Irish registration over an import number.
    Yes. Not a whole lot, just a little.

    5. Would you be in favour of scrapping the current import registration series in favour of a proper age related series.
    Yes.

    6. Ringing, is it a big deal?
    Not sure how widespread it is, and it hasn't actually affected me directly but I think it will be more common now.

    7. If, by some crazy chance you could buy an old series registration for a sum of money(probably the 1000eu charged for new issues) would you over a ZV/year plate?
    Probably not, no. I could find many more useful ways to spend that cash. I think the option should be there though.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 289 ✭✭Basil Fawlty


    1. what do you think of the 5 Digit ZV plates?

    Awful. It defeats the whole idea of a period style registration number. We never had five digit reg numbers. Even a northern style 3 + 4 style would have been better. I would favour a car keeping its UK plate when it gets registered here.

    2. What do you think of the new post 5/12/11 Year/County Import registration series?

    Absolutely horrid. The current system looks way too long, and defeats the purpose of a reg number if its too long to remember. I remember more of my old cars regs that were under the old pre 87 system as the number letter combination is more memorable.

    3. Does the number on your car make any difference to you?

    Very much so. I like to have my cars look period from the wheels to the stereo and the number plates.

    4. Do you place any more value on an original Irish registration over an import number.

    I would place no extra monetary value on a car with an original pre 87 registration, however it would make the car itself more appealing to me.

    5. Would you be in favour of scrapping the current import registration series in favour of a proper age related series.

    I favour a major change, but I do not feel a car needs it year stated on the plate. The year of registration is on all the relevant paper work.

    6. Ringing, is it a big deal?

    I find it outrageous that some people could sell a car on number plates from another car. While I have seen this first hand I do not believe the problem is as widespread as some may say it does happen. I do feel that it is a solution for some people, as I believe the whole problem is the current system and it is a means for people to get what they want. I also feel more importantly, that the powers that be are missing out on the opportunity to make money from a personal registration system that could generate much needed revenue and eliminate this problem.

    7. If, by some crazy chance you could buy an old series registration for a sum of money(probably the 1000eu charged for new issues) would you over a ZV/year plate?

    Yes I am in favour of a system of personalised registration numbers that are transferable like our cousins in the UK have. To further this idea I would like to point out that my preferred system is the one adopted by Hong Kong which still uses the system that we had, but also allows any combination of letters or numbers up to eight digits on a plate.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,033 ✭✭✭Silvera


    1. what do you think of the 5 Digit ZV plates?
    Terrible. They just followed the temporary ZZ system - which is now gone to 6 digits, i.e ZZ 100000. (Both the ZZ and ZV systems are always listed together in Govt documents)
    At the very least they could have reversed the ZV system to keep it a total of six digits, e.g 1000 ZV, 1001 ZV, 1002 ZV...
    (I have also listed a more 'thought out' ZV system here many times. Can re-list if required)

    2. What do you think of the new post 5/12/11 Year/County Import registration series?
    A sop to car dealers. And why does it need to apply to pre-1987 imported vehicles, which are obviously imports any way?! i.e. 'Year' or 'ZV' are on their plates!

    3. Does the number on your car make any difference to you?
    Yes. I would much prefer an original Irish plate. Or an "original" ZV plate.

    4. Do you place any more value on an original Irish registration over an import number.
    Yes. A local history to the vehicle always adds value - and not necessarily a monetary value.

    5. Would you be in favour of scrapping the current import registration series in favour of a proper age related series.
    Absolutely. Bring it on!!

    6. Ringing, is it a big deal?
    Yes. It needs to be curtailed. Would anybody like to buy a modern 'ringed' car? No I guessing is the answer. So why should it be acceptable for a classic?

    7. If, by some crazy chance you could buy an old series registration for a sum of money (probably the 1000eu charged for new issues) would you over a ZV/year plate?
    Hmmm.....€1000 would be too much. Max of €500...Ideally €250.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 380 ✭✭mattroche


    I am quite laidback about most of the issues raised. However I am concerned about the ringing that is going on. I have a 230CE which is Galway Reg. but only fit to break. I have had several enquiries from people who want to buy it. When I tell them that it HAS to be trailored away, they tell me to get rid of the car myself, just give them the Reg. Doc. which I refuse to do. I also have an orange 230 that most of you are aware of, had about 12 calls for the TAX BOOK of that, but of course that may or may not be a set up. I think that this is becoming a problem on classic cars, particulary, !83,!84&!85 cars


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,714 ✭✭✭no1beemerfan


    1. what do you think of the 5 Digit ZV plates?

    It wrong. It just looks wrong to anyone interested in classics. Can actually take from the car in my view

    2. What do you think of the new post 5/12/11 Year/County Import registration series?

    Whoever came up with this should be shot

    3. Does the number on your car make any difference to you?

    depends. Current reg system I don't mind what county but on classics a 4 digit ZV or original Irish number is important but then again if its a car I really want I'd learn to live with the "wrong" plate but it would be a sore point

    4. Do you place any more value on an original Irish registration over an import number.

    I wanted a chrome bumper model E30 and purchased one on original Irish reg over bringing one in from England so yes I do

    5. Would you be in favour of scrapping the current import registration series in favour of a proper age related series.
    YES YES YES!

    6. Ringing, is it a big deal?

    Its a major problem that isn't being addressed. Go to any show and you can buy any number of original Irish logbooks. That SHOULD be outlawed.

    7. If, by some crazy chance you could buy an old series registration for a sum of money(probably the 1000eu charged for new issues) would you over a ZV/year plate?

    Probably. (I have an '86 English import E28 on the current reg system - 86 G ***** and would like it on old plates)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 688 ✭✭✭bugsntinas


    Copy and past this into your reply and answer all the questions as best you can, im just wondering what the general thinking is on this subject. It would be great if as many people on here answer as possible to get a good cross section of the classic scene.

    1. what do you think of the 5 Digit ZV plates?

    never liked zv plates but much better than the year plates now.
    2. What do you think of the new post 5/12/11 Year/County Import registration series?
    awful
    3. Does the number on your car make any difference to you?

    yes as you want a plate that looks right now 10 feet long!!
    4. Do you place any more value on an original Irish registration over an import number.

    no
    5. Would you be in favour of scrapping the current import registration series in favour of a proper age related series.

    yes probably would
    6. Ringing, is it a big deal?

    yes it is.why should people get away with ringing cars and not worry about being caught.
    7. If, by some crazy chance you could buy an old series registration for a sum of money(probably the 1000eu charged for new issues) would you over a ZV/year plate?
    probably not as i like year to show on car.
    Thanks..:)
    .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,033 ✭✭✭Silvera


    Having thought about this topic again...

    I dont think old series plates should be re-issued to imported vehicles - this would complicate things as regards vehicles originally registered in Ireland.
    (The UK authorities issue specific 'aged-related import registrations' too e.g. SV, SU, ASV, ASU, etc etc - i.e imports are not confused with originally-registered vehicles)

    A good compromise would be a well-thought-out ZV (or similar system).

    The system I previously suggested on this forum is as follows -

    '1 ZV' to '999 ZV' (vehicles up to 1920)

    '1000 ZV' to '9999 ZV' (vehicles 1921 to 1960)

    'ZVA 1' to 'ZVA 999'
    'ZVB 1' to 'ZVB 999'
    'ZVC 1' to 'ZVC 999'

    etc etc etc......... (vehicles 1961 to 1986)

    (Apologies to the OP if this is slightly hijacking the original question).


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 2,957 Mod ✭✭✭✭macplaxton


    Silvera wrote: »
    (The UK authorities issue specific 'aged-related import registrations' too e.g. SV, SU, ASV, ASU, etc etc - i.e imports are not confused with originally-registered vehicles)

    As far as I'm aware the UK authorities make not such distinction of imports.

    There are "age-related plates", but they have nothing to do with whether they have been imported or not. The vehicles in question may not have had their numbers transferred to the DVLA computer in the mid-70s and had to be re-registered. They might have lost their original plate due to a transfer. The vehicle may have been radically altered and lost its original mark. They vehicle may have been imported. There are all sorts of reasons why.

    Just because a UK vehicle has a SV, SU, etc, doesn't necessarily mean it's an import.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,318 ✭✭✭✭carchaeologist


    Exactly, if I see a car with a UK age related re reg I assume some shark has creamed a few quid off it by selling the original number.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,733 ✭✭✭✭corktina


    macplaxton wrote: »
    As far as I'm aware the UK authorities make not such distinction of imports.

    There are "age-related plates", but they have nothing to do with whether they have been imported or not. The vehicles in question may not have had their numbers transferred to the DVLA computer in the mid-70s and had to be re-registered. They might have lost their original plate due to a transfer. The vehicle may have been radically altered and lost its original mark. They vehicle may have been imported. There are all sorts of reasons why.

    Just because a UK vehicle has a SV, SU, etc, doesn't necessarily mean it's an import.

    historically the Uk has used the letter S in age related plates and the like because they tend to be un-issued numbers from Scotland, the first (or middle when there are three ) letter usally beinf a Scottish issue. It doesnt always work out that way, my Taunus when imported was on a CRX plate, handy as that was a Berkshire issue, my old home.(not that either I or the car lived there at the time)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,080 ✭✭✭✭Big Nasty


    1. what do you think of the 5 Digit ZV plates?

    In general I like ZV's but prefer 4 digit to 5. I know a lot don't like them but I think with the right style plates they can look more authentic while 'number' plates screams import.

    2. What do you think of the new post 5/12/11 Year/County Import registration series?

    Cack

    3. Does the number on your car make any difference to you?

    Yes

    4. Do you place any more value on an original Irish registration over an import number.

    No, because the type of cars I like are highly unlikely to have ever been imported here as new.

    5. Would you be in favour of scrapping the current import registration series in favour of a proper age related series.

    As in letters and numbers? If so, yes.

    6. Ringing, is it a big deal?

    In before si_guru

    7. If, by some crazy chance you could buy an old series registration for a sum of money(probably the 1000eu charged for new issues) would you over a ZV/year plate?

    Not a chance!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,266 ✭✭✭MercMad


    1. what do you think of the 5 Digit ZV plates? Horrid & pointless

    2. What do you think of the new post 5/12/11 Year/County Import registration series? Ridiculous and unnecessary

    3. Does the number on your car make any difference to you? Yes

    4. Do you place any more value on an original Irish registration over an import number. Token value only, depends on car

    5. Would you be in favour of scrapping the current import registration series in favour of a proper age related series. Definitely

    6. Ringing, is it a big deal? Massive. I would like to see it halted

    7. If, by some crazy chance you could buy an old series registration for a sum of money(probably the 1000eu charged for new issues) would you over a ZV/year plate? Yes


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,731 ✭✭✭Type 17


    1. what do you think of the 5 Digit ZV plates?
    Vile and a waste of time, as they could never have been part of the original system.

    2. What do you think of the new post 5/12/11 Year/County Import registration series?
    Disgusting enough to make me opt for a 5-digit ZV (in fact, I predict that ringing will develop for reg’s like ZV nnnn and 78-D-nnn.

    3. Does the number on your car make any difference to you?
    Yes, it’s a big part of the look of a car.

    4. Do you place any more value on an original Irish registration over an import number.
    Yes, but the ringing has devalued them, but ringing only exists because the current system sucks so badly.

    5. Would you be in favour of scrapping the current import registration series in favour of a proper age related series.
    Yes x 1,000

    6. Ringing, is it a big deal?
    I wouldn’t do it myself, but I can’t condemn it when I see the sh1te that people are being made to fix to their cars.

    7. If, by some crazy chance you could buy an old series registration for a sum of money(probably the 1000eu charged for new issues) would you over a ZV/year plate?
    Yes, but €1,000 is a joke - people aren’t using the current reservations system for new cars because it means they look like a prat for paying so much. €100 for any reserved number, and a sensible sliding scale for nicer ones, would be a great system, and would generate more money than the present system for new registrations, and would discourage ringing in the vin/vet system...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,202 ✭✭✭Bitten & Hisses


    1. what do you think of the 5 Digit ZV plates?
    Not great, but sometimes better than an age-related plate. It could really be done so much better

    2. What do you think of the new post 5/12/11 Year/County Import registration series?
    A nonsensical answer to a contrived problem.

    3. Does the number on your car make any difference to you?
    Yes, a little

    4. Do you place any more value on an original Irish registration over an import number.
    Depends on the car/number/story

    5. Would you be in favour of scrapping the current import registration series in favour of a proper age related series.
    Yes, undoubtedly


    6. Ringing, is it a big deal?
    To an extent. The absence of a legitimate means to reshell/rebuild a car from parts perpetuates this problem IMO.


    7. If, by some crazy chance you could buy an old series registration for a sum of money(probably the 1000eu charged for new issues) would you over a ZV/year plate?
    Yes, but not for a grand, unless it was very special.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,407 ✭✭✭G Luxel


    1. what do you think of the 5 Digit ZV plates? not authentic....I dont like it.

    2. What do you think of the new post 5/12/11 Year/County Import registration series? if you mean 11 C 40001.....it tells me that there are 40001 cars sold in 2011 which is impossible as there were only 13000 sold...the plate should have continued on the next available number after 31/12/2011 as in 11 C 13001....

    3. Does the number on your car make any difference to you? I would prefer an age related number but do like the original irish number. I dont like the number ZV on my car as its 5 digit....and anytime I see ZV I think import....it looks even more hideous when its on an post 91 style plate....similiar to those German H plates........

    4. Do you place any more value on an original Irish registration over an import number. it was sold here new or near enough to it.

    5. Would you be in favour of scrapping the current import registration series in favour of a proper age related series. YES..there are 100,000s of original regs not on CARTELL or mywheels which means they have been scrapped, lost, or lying in a barn/ditch/buried under new development somewhere....I dont understand the 69 C or 15 WD plates....these are post 87 issues....

    6. Ringing, is it a big deal? Yes....it is a bad image of the classic car scene. I have to question the origins of some concours cars that are apparently Irish from new???....

    7. If, by some crazy chance you could buy an old series registration for a sum of money(probably the 1000eu charged for new issues) would you over a ZV/year plate? YES i would...anything from my own county ZT, ZK, IF,IC,PI...related to the year of manufacture so a 77 cork city car would be xxxx PI or a rural 66 car would be WZB xxx....but not 1000 euros....less than 100 euros.

    Thanks..:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 395 ✭✭Carazy


    1. What do you think of the 5 Digit ZV plates?
    Hate the sight of them.

    2. What do you think of the new post 5/12/11 Year/County Import registration series?
    The rule should not apply to cars imported that are less than 10years old and keep the ten year gap rolling (eg.2002-2012 cars for 2012 and 2003-2013 in 2013 etc. These cars can be given the special 'import' numbers. 40,000 for all counties outside of Dublin and 120,000 for Dublin). For classic cars to bear a reg with 120,000 is crazy.
    The fact that the number differs for each county makes the current scheme even more farcical.


    3. Does the number on your car make any difference to you?
    Yes, I love old Irish regs and any reg which make the car that bit more recognisable/memorable.

    4. Do you place any more value on an original Irish registration over an import number?
    Yes, I love old Irish registrations and would admire a car bearing one than a similar import.

    5. Would you be in favour of scrapping the current import registration series in favour of a proper age related series.
    Yes, as stated in No.2 above. Keep the 'old' import system cars over 10years that are imported.

    6. Ringing, is it a big deal?
    YES, I have never heard of anyone in the classic/vintage car geting caught. Some that are so blatent to notice really pi$$ me off.

    7. If, by some crazy chance you could buy an old series registration for a sum of money(probably the 1000eu charged for new issues) would you over a ZV/year plate?
    Yes, if I was going to the effort of importing a car that I was going to keep I would pay for a reg which suited the car.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 543 ✭✭✭nightster1


    Maybe I'm not asking this question in the right area..... I've just bought a classic with a 5 digit ZV plate. Is it possible to exchange this with an age related plate.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 536 ✭✭✭ahal


    I don't own anything of the vintage in question, but I do follow the older stuff and someday hope to have something older than 'modern classic' ... hope that's okay :)
    Copy and past this into your reply and answer all the questions as best you can, im just wondering what the general thinking is on this subject. It would be great if as many people on here answer as possible to get a good cross section of the classic scene.

    1. what do you think of the 5 Digit ZV plates?

    Idiotic.

    2. What do you think of the new post 5/12/11 Year/County Import registration series?

    As above

    3. Does the number on your car make any difference to you?

    Nope, as long as it's in keeping with the vintage of the car

    4. Do you place any more value on an original Irish registration over an import number.

    Yes, few survivors after all the scrappage schemes so original Irish is especially interesting.

    5. Would you be in favour of scrapping the current import registration series in favour of a proper age related series.

    Absolutely.

    6. Ringing, is it a big deal?

    Yes, a few people ruining it for the majority, and the eventual response will be typically ham-fisted and draconian!

    7. If, by some crazy chance you could buy an old series registration for a sum of money(probably the 1000eu charged for new issues) would you over a ZV/year plate?

    In reality, no ... if funds permitted, yes.

    Thanks..:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,348 ✭✭✭w124man


    1. what do you think of the 5 Digit ZV plates?

    I think they are ok

    2. What do you think of the new post 5/12/11 Year/County Import registration series?

    Childish

    3. Does the number on your car make any difference to you?

    Not really

    4. Do you place any more value on an original Irish registration over an import number.

    Yes. Its nice to see a genuine Irish car as opposed to an import


    5. Would you be in favour of scrapping the current import registration series in favour of a proper age related series.

    Yes

    6. Ringing, is it a big deal?

    Yes

    7. If, by some crazy chance you could buy an old series registration for a sum of money(probably the 1000eu charged for new issues) would you over a ZV/year plate?

    Yes I would but I have been told you cant go back more than 15 years


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,731 ✭✭✭Type 17


    nightster1 wrote: »
    Maybe I'm not asking this question in the right area..... I've just bought a classic with a 5 digit ZV plate. Is it possible to exchange this with an age related plate.

    No, you can move from age-related to ZV, but not the other way.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,318 ✭✭✭✭carchaeologist


    nightster1 wrote: »
    Maybe I'm not asking this question in the right area..... I've just bought a classic with a 5 digit ZV plate. Is it possible to exchange this with an age related plate.

    I hate to say it, but you are better off staying with the ZV. The year plates are beyond retarded now..:mad:


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