What is your take on topless ladies in tabloids?

py2006

After reading a recent post in a certain other forum I thought it would be interesting to get other men's opinions and attitudes towards imagery of topless ladies in tabloids.

My personal feeling is that I don't read those kind of newspapers and I don't feel the urge to because it has an attractive woman posing seductively inside. And for that reason, I am not confronted with it on a daily basis.

More importantly, I don't feel any negativity towards the women who choose to make a career or use it to make some money while they can. These women are obviously very self confident and at ease with their bodies so each to their own and all that.

Also, I don't believe it portrays women (in general) in any negative light. Specifically, in the mindset of men. In my own experience, the only negativity directed at these women are from some women themselves.

Unfortunately, it is rather difficult to express opinion on this elsewhere so I thought it would be interesting to get a general perspective from the gentlemen here.

mike65

Does this still happen?

"Gemma, 21 says savers would get better interest rates if they banked with her"

If a young wan fancies her chances of making a few bob for getting her kit off and trying to develop that into a full time career as a WAG then good luck to her.

stupidusername

I don't have a problem with it. I think it's a bit weird to have naked people in a newspaper so generally available, but I don't have a problem with it being a woman shown specifically.

What I don't get about all this discussion on things like this, is why it's always the woman who's being judged or is considered exploited. I mean why assume she hasn't had free will? Nobody ever comments on male models being exploited, or male porn stars being degraded. Won't somebody please think of the men!!

Sonics2k

I literally don't care.

If she chooses to get her breasts out, and get paid a couple of grand in the process for it, then feel free.

I reckon she comes out more of a winner than the eejits who pay for it :pac:

charlemont

It's all good..:)

corktina

Kylie,18 , from Essex commented "If I want to get my thrupneys out I've a divine right"

The left wasn't bad either I noticed....

py2006

Yea, I think by and large, the majority of people don't care less. It is not something shoved in our face and those who wish to purchase such papers are free to do so and from what I can see they don't make a song and dance about it.

Scioch

Those papers are not news papers they are gossip rags and little more. Anyone who wants news will get it from credible paper and avoid the rubbish.

So anyone interested in looking at tits and reading shíte are free to do so.

I dont understand why anyone would direct criticism at the models though, its like cursing tony the tiger when ya eat a rock hard frostie. Yeah he's on the box but he dont make the flippin cereal.

fallen01angel

Am I right in saying "The Sun" is probably the only "newpaper"(meeoww) that still features a page 3 topless woman on it??? TBH it never bothered me at all(and I'm female). If a girl/woman is happy to display herself topless then who's she hurting.......

Galvasean

To be honest, I think the page 3 girls are largely pointless in these days of high speed internet porn.
But hey, if I could get paid good money to take my top off I'd do it in a heart beat so more power to the gals involved really.

kowloon

They're no more naked than David Beckham in those perfume ads.
David actually has a fair sized pair of funbags.

1ZRed

Who uses newspapers to look at tits anymore?

JimmyCrackCorn

Its great until you have to listen to an interview with them.

Good looking women are everywhere. Women that I'd marry are harder to find.

Galwayguy35

As another poster has said, it's fairly harmless compared to what you can see on the net these days and the women get good money for it and are happy to do it.
It seems to be other women who have the problem with it for some reason, these women know what they are doing and noone forces them to do it.

sam34

py2006 wrote: »

After reading a recent post in a certain other forum I thought it would be interesting to...

Unfortunately, it is rather difficult to express opinion on this elsewhere so I thought it would be interesting to get a general perspective from the gentlemen here.

a veiled reference, but a reference (and a snide one at that) nonetheless. so drop it. you've been warned before about that.

Dravokivich

I dare say we should have more topless ladies, sure t'is a gentleman's club. :cool:

Right, quick snigger out of the way, I'm indifferent about it. Maybe it's more of a see no evil, hear no evil kind of thing. Folks never got The Sun so I was never exposed to it when I was younger. Don't buy newspapers myself. Regularly get the metro free in the mornings and then glance on BBC / Sky News / RTÉ sites through out the day to topup.

I don't think it's too much really, topless women in movies just means a 12's cert.

BigDuffman

I for one am a fan of boobies. The more the better. They make most men folk happy.

But I tend not to actually buy weekday newspapers, particularly red topped rags. But when theres one lying around the canteen I'll have a flick.

Which leads on to the next question. Whilst in work, does looking at a picture of boobs in a common area like a canteen not leave one open to getting shlap from the no fun police or HR? As this is pornography.

Sure your not even allowed have FHM calenders up anymore!

mike65

You'll have a flick? :eek:

BigDuffman

mike65 wrote: »

You'll have a flick? :eek:

Oooh matron!

LoTwan

mike65 wrote: »

You'll have a flick? :eek:

Just don't start licking the newspaper. The ink tastes nasty.

I can't remember the last time I saw a page 3 (or whatever page she is on now) model & have to agree that there is more, easier availed of "entertainment" on the interweb.

py2006

BigDuffman wrote: »

Which leads on to the next question. Whilst in work, does looking at a picture of boobs in a common area like a canteen not leave one open to getting shlap from the no fun police or HR? As this is pornography.

I'd be embarrassed and skip that page if I was flicking through it.

Jason Fly

the development of the internet has turn page-three-boobs into meaningless... Tulissa's oral skills are more interesting than Sam Fox's nipples...xD

Dubhlinner

If women are gonna make money getting their tits out they can't expect to be taken seriously in the workplace when it comes to management and promotion.

In an ideal world people wouldn't think that way and would treat everyone as an individual...
We're not in an ideal world though. I think page three girls, as well as the likes of georga salpa wearing next to nothing in advertisements, make the world take women less seriously.

Galwayguy35

Dubhlinner wrote: »

If women are gonna make money getting their tits out they can't expect to be taken seriously in the workplace when it comes to management and promotion.

In an ideal world people wouldn't think that way and would treat everyone as an individual...
We're not in an ideal world though. I think page three girls, as well as the likes of georga salpa wearing next to nothing in advertisements, make the world take women less seriously.

Georgia Salpa is making lots of money doing what she does. She isn't harming anyone so fair play to her I say.
David Beckham posed in his underwear a few years ago, rugby players posed for a calender as well, would you think that made the world take men less seriously?

Dubhlinner

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

Georgia Salpa is making lots of money doing what she does. She isn't harming anyone so fair play to her I say.
David Beckham posed in his underwear a few years ago, rugby players posed for a calender as well, would you think that made the world take men less seriously?

I don't think the analogy flips perfectly because there isn't a stereotype in place that sexually attractive males are airheads

When I hear of males acting the deadbeat dad it pisses me off though because it reinforces the stereotype that males are inclined to be sh*t fathers and yeah I hold those males partly responsible for the continuation of the stereotype

kippy

Whats a "paper"?
There's this thing called the internet, I think it's called, you can pick up your news, and the type of news from oodles of sources and if are are so inclined scantly clad wimins (and more) from other sites....

Serious note, I have never purchased a newspaper that contains such pictures. I dont see the point - I also avoid red tops in general. I'd rather not support their "business" model.

Galwayguy35

Dubhlinner wrote: »

I don't think the analogy flips perfectly because there isn't a stereotype in place that sexually attractive males are airheads

When I hear of males acting the deadbeat dad it pisses me off though because it reinforces the stereotype that males are inclined to be sh*t fathers and yeah I hold those males partly responsible for the continuation of the stereotype

Maybe I'm reading your post wrong but are you making the point that page 3 models and the likes of Georgia Salpa give off the impression of being airheads by the work they do?

Dubhlinner

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

Maybe I'm reading your post wrong but are you making the point that page 3 models and the likes of Georgia Salpa give off the impression of being airheads by the work they do?

that's the general perception alright

Jason Fly

Dubhlinner wrote: »

I don't think the analogy flips perfectly because there isn't a stereotype in place that sexually attractive males are airheads

When I hear of males acting the deadbeat dad it pisses me off though because it reinforces the stereotype that males are inclined to be sh*t fathers and yeah I hold those males partly responsible for the continuation of the stereotype

the existence of that kind of man gives sense to boobs in page 3

Jimoslimos

Fine,

More power to the ladies doing it, I'm sure they all realise that despite it being a nifty little earner there's nowhere near the level of mileage to got from it as say in Sam Fox's day.

As for exploitation, well that's generally what the readers are subjected to. Having said that I'm not fond of those 'intelligent comments' from Kerry who says "it's in Britain's interest that all governments throughout europe should aid Greece in working towards stabilisation of the single currency". Just seems so condescending to both the reader and the girl.

Reader: She's made a sensible point but you're too much of a lad gawking at her boobs to notice/care.

Girl: She's got a brain, but nobody cares/wants to listen when ya can get your tits out.

Galvasean

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

Georgia Salpa is making lots of money doing what she does. She isn't harming anyone so fair play to her I say.

Anyone who thinks Georgia Salpa is an airhead is sorely mistaken. She's a very astute business woman who has used her own personal gifts to make a career for herself.

Galwayguy35

Galvasean wrote: »

Anyone who thinks Georgia Salpa is an airhead is sorely mistaken. She's a very astute business woman who has used her own personal gifts to make a career for herself.

I agree.

yawha

Page 3 etc. wouldn't be a problem on it's own, but in the context of the society we live in, and the associations we make between women posing with their tits out and intelligence etc.

As is alluded to above, the general perception of page 3 girls is that they are "airheads". Sucks that people tend to think that, but they do. As a result of this, every page 3 girl someone sees reinforces the idea that women are generally stupid things which are arousing to look at. The same thing applies to ideas about men being incompetent at housework and "funny" advertisements which reinforce this.

So, I don't think Page 3 is wrong, per se, but as long as there is a general negative perception regarding the intelligence of people who pose as (especially nude/semi-nude) models, they reinforce negative ideas about the people doing this modelling, and if this is largely one gender, the ideas can become associated with that gender as a whole.

py2006

yawha wrote: »

As is alluded to above, the general perception of page 3 girls is that they are "airheads". Sucks that people tend to think that, but they do. As a result of this, every page 3 girl someone sees reinforces the idea that women are generally stupid things which are arousing to look at.

I can't say I agree with this. I think it is specifically the blonde barbie type that some people tend to view as air heads. Also, I really don't think that from viewing page 3 people will view other women as stupid and arousing. That really doesn't make sense to me. Not all women are stupid, not all women are arousing to everybody.

the_syco

Page3 aside, how does the rest of the paper refer to women? Does the Page3 stop women from reading the rest of the tabloid?

I always find it difficult when there's an article I really want to read on page 3 - it just makes it look like I'm paying close attention to their tits.

Maguined

yawha wrote: »

So, I don't think Page 3 is wrong, per se, but as long as there is a general negative perception regarding the intelligence of people who pose as (especially nude/semi-nude) models, they reinforce negative ideas about the people doing this modelling, and if this is largely one gender, the ideas can become associated with that gender as a whole.

I do not agree with your logic on this, that is akin to saying that because there is a general negative joke expressed towards ginger people (they have no souls) that the media should not ever have ginger people in adds as it will only reinforce these negative jokes.

I do not see page 3 as sexist or a negative influence to society, I do view it as a bit stupid to be honest but if people want to buy it then let them just as I view celebrity gossip magazines as stupid however if people want to buy them then let them.

HavingCrack

Galvasean wrote: »

Anyone who thinks Georgia Salpa is an airhead is sorely mistaken. She's a very astute business woman who has used her own personal gifts to make a career for herself.

Readers of the Sun on the other hand.....

Fenian Army

Its an embarrassment to humanity that people actually buy those papers

If men buy them because of the tits on page three, well, thats just cringworthy.

Mr. Presentable

I see no particular harm in it. A bare chest should be no big deal be it male or female. I don't believe the model is being exploited so no harm, no foul imho.

If page three was a post on Boards it'd be stickied.......

scholar007

py2006 wrote: »

It is not something shoved in our face

Mores the pity - nothing like a big pair of bazookas shoved in yer face

Honey-ec

Galvasean wrote: »

Anyone who thinks Georgia Salpa is an airhead is sorely mistaken. She's a very astute business woman who has used her own personal gifts to make a career for herself.

She may not actually be stupid but it's a persona she definitely plays up a lot, and I'd be asking why she feels the need to.

Claire Tully, on the other hand, has never felt the need to hide her brains under a bushel (to mix a metaphor), yet her modelling career never *quite* took off.

Galwayguy35

HavingCrack wrote: »

Readers of the Sun on the other hand.....

Yeah? What about us?

Sea Filly

Galvasean wrote: »

Anyone who thinks Georgia Salpa is an airhead is sorely mistaken. She's a very astute business woman who has used her own personal gifts to make a career for herself.

Let's not go nuts. She's just doing what manys the woman has done before her, not something novel. I wouldn't class going out with Calum Best for publicity as astute. Good luck to her though.

Honey-ec wrote: »

Claire Tully, on the other hand, has never felt the need to hide her brains under a bushel (to mix a metaphor), yet her modelling career never *quite* took off.

Claire Tully went on about it a bit too much though. I've only read/seen maybe five interviews with her, but in each one she managed to shoehorn in the fact that she got 600 points in the LC and a First Class Honours degree. In every single one. OK, you're smart, we get it!

JimmyCrackCorn

Let's not go nuts. She's just doing what manys the woman has done before her, not something novel. I wouldn't class going out with Calum Best for publicity as astute. Good luck to her

What are you setting as the bar on novel? On fire upside down blowing up a ballon????

Sea Filly

JimmyCrackCorn wrote: »

What are you setting as the bar on novel? On fire upside down blowing up a ballon????

Ya might want to run that by me again, Jimmy, I'm stumped!

py2006

Sea Filly wrote: »

Let's not go nuts. She's just doing what manys the woman has done before her, not something novel. I wouldn't class going out with Calum Best for publicity as astute. Good luck to her though.

Well if it was for publicity then in a way it was astute. She might have got her name known more in the UK. Hence, the big brother stint.

I don't have much time for women that use men in that regard, but then again I am sure he wasn't with her for profound knowledge of the renaissance period.

Galwayguy35

py2006 wrote: »

Well if it was for publicity then in a way it was astute. She might have got her name known more in the UK. Hence, the big brother stint.

I don't have much time for women that use men in that regard, but then again I am sure he wasn't with her for profound knowledge of the renaissance period.

I think in fairness they might have used each other in this case. Callum Best is known as George Bests son, he has achieved nothing himself apart from sh***ing models and singers and makes his money on his fathers name.