How is burn out identified.

Countryboymike

Some players train four nights per week and a match at the weekend .Some players train two nights per week at Football and two nights per week at hurling and a match at the weekend .Some players do boxing ,football and hurling training and matches at the weekend .Some play two matches on a Sunday.They look unfit in matches. Are they doing too much .Is burnout an issue here.Advice needed urgently guys.

slievenamon fella

the reason they look unfit is plain and simply cause they are tired,i think havin trainin or matches 4 times a week is the most some one can do while also stay playing at the optimium level

Henno30

'Burn out' isn't a very useful phrase. It's vague and too general to be of any practical use.

If you want to get some background on the problem you're describing, google 'training and recovery' and get a sense of the kind of rest these lads need given their workload. If they are looking unfit in games, it's either because they are not well conditioned enough, or that they are not recovering properly from their training sessions.

Felexicon

This problem mainly occurs when training with multiple teams. Any good coach can have his players training 6 days a week if needs be without them seeming sluggish in games.
If someone trains 2 nights football and 2 nights hurling you can be sure both teams will have a heavy cardio session each week and instead of this player being extra fit as some idiots would have you believe they simply never give thier body a chance to recover and actually decrease both strenght and conditioning.
If this is happening to you see if one coach will allow you to skip the cardio session each week.
Also listen to your body. If you feel sore and stiff don't push it. The old way of "running it off" is horse ****. You can of course have a jog to loosen up but that would be about it

rebel girl 15

I'd say on first impressions they are doing too much. Couple of questions before I address the issue - what age are the players? Do the hurling coaches and the football coaches talk to each other? How informed are the players about hydration?

On first glance, it seems that the players are overworked, and don't have enough time to recover. This can lead to burnout in players eventually.

hardybuck

rebel girl 15 wrote: »

I'd say on first impressions they are doing too much. Couple of questions before I address the issue - what age are the players? Do the hurling coaches and the football coaches talk to each other? How informed are the players about hydration?

On first glance, it seems that the players are overworked, and don't have enough time to recover. This can lead to burnout in players eventually.

I and a number of my friends were all fortunate to be good at a number of different sports, and all came together as good players on a very successful period in our clubs and schools.

Personally I was playing on anywhere from 15-20 different teams in a season. Very hard to believe now, but between multiple sports, multiple age groups, club, school and intercounty it all adds up. I can remember playing three games on one day at one stage, and another day playing in two county finals on the one day in different sports.

What we saw was injuries that we shouldn't have got until we were far older - mainly in the joints, and collarbone seems to be another one common in tired teenagers.

Some of our group also saw the mental signs of fatigue. Lack of interest, difficults getting themselves up for games in their late teens/early 20's.

Most of the group ended up playing like 35 year olds when they were 25. Having put so many miles on the clock at a young age they simply aged quicker. Like a car that operates as a taxi compared to an ordinary car, the former will age quicker and suffer more breakdowns.

who what when

hardybuck wrote: »

Most of the group ended up playing like 35 year olds when they were 25..

This is so common and exactly what happened to me. From the age of about 16 to 21 played or trained 7+ times a week for a significant amount of the year. Really takes its toll on your body. Im just 27 now and I reckon this is my last year as I just cant compete anymore.

Off the top of head I can probably name a dozen or so people who have needed knee, hip or shoulder replacements well before their time simply because of playing and training too much gaa when they were younger.

hardybuck

I think half the battle is the amount of unqualified coaches who gain access to teams. I know things have probably improved in recent years, but the amount of lunatics I encountered makes me sick when I think about it.

Laps, laps, laps in many instances, even at county level. Every manager didn't give a toss about the other teams you might be involved with either, all were making sure that their own team would win at all costs.

My parents did step in and make some decisions for me a few times, but they couldn't have much control over much of the bad training we had to endure.

Prop Joe

hardybuck wrote: »

I think half the battle is the amount of unqualified coaches who gain access to teams. I know things have probably improved in recent years, but the amount of lunatics I encountered makes me sick when I think about it.

Laps, laps, laps in many instances, even at county level. Every manager didn't give a toss about the other teams you might be involved with either, all were making sure that their own team would win at all costs.

My parents did step in and make some decisions for me a few times, but they couldn't have much control over much of the bad training we had to endure.

Correct unqualified coaches do serious damage at underage and senior level...Every player should have an individual training program ...no 2 players are the same