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E85 Bio fuel

  • 13-05-2012 6:11pm
    #1
    Westwood
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 535 ✭✭✭


    I believe this has been phased out in 2011 and contained 85% ethanol and 15 % petrol and could be used on cars with a conversion kit???. does anyone know are people out there making their own ethanol and still using it in Ireland to fuel cars?? can it be done?? the reason I ask is after seeing this video on youtube? :confused:



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  • #2
    Matt Simis
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,718 ✭✭✭Matt Simis


    I used to run E85 when it was available, so was interested in this. Only watched till half way, but that seems to be an extremely time consuming and fairly pricey endeavour (check out all the sugar and yeast!). Compared to LPG as an alternative fuel (which has similar characteristics as it happens), it comes up short IMO.


  • #3
    eth0
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,635 ✭✭✭eth0


    I dunno if anyone's making their own but i'd say there's a chance you might get it in de Naart since their tax law on it is slightly different.

    When they were phasing it out they were saying "Sure nobody will buy the stuff at 1.50 a litre". There is the slight difference in calorific value but a purpose built engine with a higher compression ratio would probably extract the same amount of power out of it as a petrol engine would get from petrol.

    Back into the day I might throw in 20 litres of the stuff into a 50l tank of petrol and never a bother with it. I would have experimented more if they didn't take it off the market. Some small engines I had ran great off the stuff but these were Briggs engines from the 70's. Only one of the newer engines I have ran any bit decent off it


  • #4
    paddy147
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 15,858 ✭✭✭✭paddy147


    Dont you need to upgarde fuel lines and rubber pipes to run E85??

    Maxol stopped selling E85 because the goverment were going to the tax the fcuk out of it,to make more money.

    Sound familar with things being taxed in this country??:rolleyes::mad:


  • #5
    eth0
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,635 ✭✭✭eth0


    paddy147 wrote: »
    Dont you need to upgarde fuel lines and rubber pipes to run E85??


    Sometimes.

    It has been steadily improving since they started adding ethanol to petrol in the states. Anything from the past 10 years would be reasonably tolerant to the stuff because there is ethanol in petrol over here now as well. Putting in E85 will probably make them wear faster so you'd have to keep an eye on it every now and then


  • #6
    L1011
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 71,189 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    paddy147 wrote: »
    Maxol stopped selling E85 because the goverment were going to the tax the fcuk out of it,to make more money.

    They stopped because nobody was buying it. Majority of new E85 compatible cars sold were Clios where the owners generally didn't even *know* that they could use E85. Other than that it was a few conversions and a few S40s where the drivers usually had fuel cards anyway.


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  • #7
    eth0
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,635 ✭✭✭eth0


    MYOB wrote: »
    They stopped because nobody was buying it. Majority of new E85 compatible cars sold were Clios where the owners generally didn't even *know* that they could use E85. Other than that it was a few conversions and a few S40s where the drivers usually had fuel cards anyway.

    There was a Ford Focus that could run on it, SaaB BioPower, few other ones too.


  • #8
    Westwood
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 535 ✭✭✭Westwood


    Matt Simis wrote: »
    I used to run E85 when it was available, so was interested in this. Only watched till half way, but that seems to be an extremely time consuming and fairly pricey endeavour (check out all the sugar and yeast!). Compared to LPG as an alternative fuel (which has similar characteristics as it happens), it comes up short IMO.


    but but but sugar and yeast are cheap and you can make vodka, beer, wine and fuel your car at the same time??? :pac:


  • #9
    eth0
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,635 ✭✭✭eth0


    Westwood wrote: »
    but but but sugar and yeast are cheap and you can make vodka, beer, wine and fuel your car at the same time??? :pac:

    if you were at that codology you'd make so much money selling the drink to people you wouldn't waste it pouring it into your car


  • #10
    ShiresV2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 190 ✭✭ShiresV2


    MYOB wrote: »
    They stopped because nobody was buying it. Majority of new E85 compatible cars sold were Clios where the owners generally didn't even *know* that they could use E85. Other than that it was a few conversions and a few S40s where the drivers usually had fuel cards anyway.

    They seemed happy to sell it until Revenue scrapped the excise exemption and it was then taxed the same as petrol making it uneconomical.

    Round my way the usual customers seemed to be lads in bi-fuel Saabs, Volvos, interesting JDM imports and people doing like myself mixing E5 and E85 at the pump.


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