DPF surely not, see page 23

naughtysmurf

With all the talk of failing DPF's, of which what I know could be written on the back of a stamp with a 4" paint brush...seemingly my Renault Fluence has a DPF with a lifetime guarantee

The timing belt seemingly doesn't have to be changed until 160,000Km either

http://www.renault.com/SiteCollectionDocuments/Communiqu%C3%A9%20de%20presse/en-us/Pieces%20jointes/20900_Fluence_press_release_EN_95FFFB0C.pdf

Does this sound right?

Avns1s

The Ford Focus had a 100,000 mile timing belt change interval (160,000 km) so its probably fine.

naughtysmurf

naughtysmurf wrote: »

............seemingly my Renault Fluence has a DPF with a lifetime guarantee ............

I'm sure they still charge for forced re gens though

Row

Taken from the link above...
Their DPF functions without the driver noticing thanks
to a regeneration system based on the presence of a fifth injector in the
exhaust line.

Toyota avensis (d4d d-cat) have been using a 5th injector to regenerate there dpf's for the last few years...Tbh i have heard some horror storys from different mechanics about this 5th injector...:eek:
http://www.toyotaownersclub.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=125839
Hope Renault have a better system than toyota....

Leonard Hofstadter

Row wrote: »

Taken from the link above...
Their DPF functions without the driver noticing thanks
to a regeneration system based on the presence of a fifth injector in the
exhaust line.

Toyota avensis (d4d d-cat) have been using a 5th injector to regenerate there dpf's for the last few years...Tbh i have heard some horror storys from different mechanics about this 5th injector...:eek:
http://www.toyotaownersclub.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=125839
Hope Renault have a better system than toyota....

A Toyota that gives trouble - surely not:)?

Jonny303

The filter might have a lifetime warrenty, but your filter is not what causes problems, the filter is generally the result of somthing else (injector as an example). This won't obviously be covered, and then if the dpf would need to be replaced, it would not be covered as it is not faulty, but rather it has been contaminated by another faulty part

naughtysmurf

Is there always a catch?

As regards the timing belt change interval, on previous cars (not that old either) it's usually been about 50,000 miles or 80km ish, is what they are recommending on the Fluence realistic & what I should accept or is there any reason to do it earlier, I would plan to hold on to the car for at least 8 years

bazz26

I think the 1.5 dCi has a timing chain which should last the life time of the engine. George Dalton or Nissan Doctor on here can verify if this is the case.

Nissan doctor

bazz26 wrote: »

I think the 1.5 dCi has a timing chain which should last the life time of the engine. George Dalton or Nissan Doctor on here can verify if this is the case.

On my specs here the timing belt is listed as every 150,000kms OR every 6 years, whichever comes first.

As for a lifetime DPF warranty....I'd love to see Renault honouring that!
If I were you, OP, I'd learn everything in the owners manual about DPF use and regeneration as, if it ever does fail, they will likely try anything to say it was to do with how you used the car.

lomb

Common rail passats are at 120k miles on timing belt, whats that 180k km?

Nissan doctor

lomb wrote: »

Common rail passats are at 120k miles on timing belt, whats that 180k km?

Its just shy of 200k. They are also due every 4 years if the mileage is not reached.

naughtysmurf

Nissan doctor wrote: »

On my specs here the timing belt is listed as every 150,000kms OR every 6 years, whichever comes first.

As for a lifetime DPF warranty....I'd love to see Renault honouring that!
If I were you, OP, I'd learn everything in the owners manual about DPF use and regeneration as, if it ever does fail, they will likely try anything to say it was to do with how you used the car.

What is the story exactly with regeneration, does it only regenerate when it needs to or automatically once it reaches a certain temp

Car does about 500km / week, 400 of those km's are decent motorway spins

Nissan doctor

naughtysmurf wrote: »

What is the story exactly with regeneration, does it only regenerate when it needs to or automatically once it reaches a certain temp

Car does about 500km / week, 400 of those km's are decent motorway spins

Well your using the car properly so I wouldn't worry about it too much. Just make sure to avoid cheap diesel and especially, make sure the correct spec oil is used.

n97 mini

Jonny303 wrote: »

The filter might have a lifetime warrenty, but your filter is not what causes problems, the filter is generally the result of somthing else (injector as an example). This won't obviously be covered, and then if the dpf would need to be replaced, it would not be covered as it is not faulty, but rather it has been contaminated by another faulty part

That's the crux of it.

Also, Renault haven't been as generous in Ireland with warranties as they have been elsewhere. I'd get it from them that there is a lifetime warranty rather than renault.com.

Jonny303

n97 mini wrote: »

That's the crux of it.

Also, Renault haven't been as generous in Ireland with warranties as they have been elsewhere. I'd get it from them that there is a lifetime warranty rather than renault.com.

I'm no fan of the way renault operate but thats just not a reality. It's said there's a lifetime warranty on the filter, all you can do is take it as is. The only thing that could possibly go wrong with the filter is the housing leaking. A car is a consumable item, you cant expect lifetime warrenties and it's not as if they are plastering "lifetime warrenty on DPF filters on their ad's

Nissan doctor

Jonny303 wrote: »

I'm no fan of the way renault operate but thats just not a reality. It's said there's a lifetime warranty on the filter, all you can do is take it as is. The only thing that could possibly go wrong with the filter is the housing leaking. A car is a consumable item, you cant expect lifetime warrenties and it's not as if they are plastering "lifetime warrenty on DPF filters on their ad's

Huh? The only thing that can go wrong with a DPF is the housing breaking?

That's either very misinformed or you simply don't know what a DPF is.