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Saddle issues

  • 11-05-2012 1:54pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 254 ✭✭


    I'm having some saddle issues.

    I find I'm sliding slightly forward on my saddle (like a lot of saddles it slopes up a bit up at the rear) which results in me sitting on my groin, instead of my ass and groin. I'm constantly pushing back to counteract this, but quite quickly I slide forward again.

    I tried switching to a firmer saddle which almost broke my spine.

    I've had a bike fit with Fernando and he recommended this saddle http://cobbcycling.com/cart/V-Flow_C1P1.cfm which is slightly concave.

    Has anyone had this issue, if so how did you solve it?

    Also, if anyone has a Cobb saddle let me know what you think of it?

    Finally, would a Brooks B17 be a suitable solution for this problem?

    Please, no advice on moving the saddle forward or changing the angle. The man from Spain....he say no!


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 15,812 Mod ✭✭✭✭smacl


    Postit wrote: »
    Finally, would a Brooks B17 be a suitable solution for this problem?

    Worked well for me and some others on here, which doesn't mean it will work for you. If you could borrow one, it would certainly be worth trying out, though they can take a bit of wearing in.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,200 ✭✭✭manwithaplan


    I am a recent sufferer of saddle problems. I had a flattish specialized rival saddle on my Allez and it fit like a glove. I bought a second hand carbon bike and the saddle (a Devox carbon job) was more steeply curved at the sides and didn't have a cut-out section like the specialized. My riding position was also lower and more aggressive. It was putting too much pressure on my perineum and my poor lad was getting distinctly numb. I have just bought and fitted a new specialized saddle - a bit fancier than my previous one but the same basic shape.

    Time will tell but it seems to be doing the trick. My rump seems to like a flat shape which supports my sit bones well but everyone is different.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,220 ✭✭✭✭Lumen


    If the main part of your saddle is level and your bike fit is right then you shouldn't be sliding forward except when tired.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 220 ✭✭slfcarro5


    I have the same issue as this and on the look out for a saddle. When i sit with my ass bones on the fatter back part of the saddle I always tend to slide forward. Would tilting up help. I have tried to do this a but don't want to put the nose to high. When leveling the saddle what part would be considered the main part where i put the level. Is it the nose that would never to be level.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 198 ✭✭torydiver


    Have the Cobb V-flow plus currently on a trial from bikescience in uk,
    You get 6 months trial, can return it for credit,
    Have done a few hundred km's on it now,
    Remain undecided about it,
    Got a lend of a prologo from my lbs a few weeks ago,
    For me it feels like a nicer perch than the Cobb,
    It is wider than the Cobb, 143mm Vs 130mm,
    I think I need slightly extra width for a better position on the saddle,
    At this stage I will probably be returning the Cobb,
    There is no real loss with the Trial - return with the Cobb,
    Saddles are such a personal thing, its whatever suits your own physique,
    You only really know by trying them out......

    Ps, Regarding sliding forward on your saddle,
    did you use a spirit level to get your saddle level,
    It can be very decieving trying to do it by eye......


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,220 ✭✭✭✭Lumen


    Level is like this:

    fizik-arione-saddle-basso-close-up.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,741 ✭✭✭brownian


    Postit wrote: »
    I'm having some saddle issues.

    I find I'm sliding slightly forward on my saddle (like a lot of saddles it slopes up a bit up at the rear) which results in me sitting on my groin, instead of my ass and groin. I'm constantly pushing back to counteract this, but quite quickly I slide forward again.

    I tried switching to a firmer saddle which almost broke my spine.

    I've had a bike fit with Fernando and he recommended this saddle http://cobbcycling.com/cart/V-Flow_C1P1.cfm which is slightly concave.

    Has anyone had this issue, if so how did you solve it?

    Also, if anyone has a Cobb saddle let me know what you think of it?

    Finally, would a Brooks B17 be a suitable solution for this problem?

    Please, no advice on moving the saddle forward or changing the angle. The man from Spain....he say no!

    it's purely personal...but I do find the Brooks B17 very comfortable. And there was no "wearing in" in my experience. Heavier than some,though (me and the saddle both).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,207 ✭✭✭a148pro


    Who is fernando who did the bike fit, do you recommend him and how much does he cost?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 254 ✭✭Postit


    a148pro wrote: »
    Who is fernando who did the bike fit, do you recommend him and how much does he cost?

    1) http://www.fit4bike.com/
    2) Yes
    3) It depends, ask him.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 573 ✭✭✭el Bastardo


    slfcarro5 wrote: »
    I have the same issue as this and on the look out for a saddle. When i sit with my ass bones on the fatter back part of the saddle I always tend to slide forward. Would tilting up help. I have tried to do this a but don't want to put the nose to high. When leveling the saddle what part would be considered the main part where i put the level. Is it the nose that would never to be level.

    When levelling the saddle, the part is you actually sit on is what you need to have level. If it's not level, you'll slide forwards. Doesn't matter if it looks like the 'nose' is facing upwards a bit just so long as it's comfortable (You're not meant to sit on the 'nose' anyway).


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,830 ✭✭✭doozerie


    Postit wrote: »
    Has anyone had this issue, if so how did you solve it?

    I used to find myself moving forward on my Fizik Arione saddle (a flat saddle parallel with the ground along its entire length). That saddle caused me a lot of pain at times, and my moving forward on it almost certainly contributed to that. As the saddle was flat and level, gravity did not play a part in my moving forward on the saddle so tilt was not a contributory factor (and I certainly was not going to tilt it up in front as to me that seems like the wrong solution).

    As to solving it, well I'm not sure I've entirely solved it in that that particular problem seems to have gone away but perhaps it has been replaced by some other problem(s). Also, my "solution' could be described as being of two parts, one of which is well and truly in the realm of what you specifically asked not to here, but here goes:

    * I changed to shallower/compact drop bars, and a bike frame with a shorter top tube. I also lowered the saddle. These changes were the result of a (Retul) bike fit, but obviously if you are happy with the fit you've been given then further changes won't apply for you.

    * I changed to a wider (143mm) saddle, and moved away from Fizik saddles entirely. It was the Specialized Body Geometry measurement system that suggested to me that 143mm was the appropriate saddle width for me. My Specialized Romin saddle is a shape that seems best suited to the front third tilting down, middle third level, rear third rising up, although during my bike fit the fitter set it level along its length - I suspect this repositioning is behind some of the occasional issues I've had with the saddle since and I plan to move it back to its previous tilt again to see if that'll eliminate the (relatively minor) issues.

    I also use a Prologo Scratch Pro 143mm saddle and this has mostly been fine too but again with the occasional problem. That's very much a flat saddle and I have it level along its entire length. Not only does every rider differ, but different saddles differ too in terms of optimum positioning. Not sure if there is anything in there to help you though.


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