Bad diesel

kearney13

I bought diesel from a filling station in athboy and its known to be bad diesel and I normally don't get it from them but I did for some stupid reason now my injector pump is foooked

What can I do here, can I claim from them for the cost of a new pump or have I a leg to stand on at all??

Its rumored to be washed diesel there selling.

dgt

1. Knowing its bad why did you go in?
2. How fecked is your vehicle?
3. Fuel receipts are king. Hope you go one or your argument won't be very strong

-Corkie-

kearney13 wrote: »

I bought diesel from a filling station in athboy and its known to be bad diesel and I normally don't get it from them but I did for some stupid reason now my injector pump is foooked

What can I do here, can I claim from them for the cost of a new pump or have I a leg to stand on at all??

Its rumored to be washed diesel there selling.

First thing to do is get a sample then ring Customs..

tayto lover

Go to a garage and to the Customs & Excise and bring a sample for examination.
If you have a report from the Customs and a garage saying its washed diesel then go to your solicitor and take them to court for damages plus hire of replacement car. You are on a winner if you get that done.

kearney13

dgt wrote: »

1. Knowing its bad why did you go in?
2. How fecked is your vehicle?
3. Fuel receipts are king. Hope you go one or your argument won't be very strong

1. Out of laziness tbh I was just coming home from work and there on the road home so said I'd fill up there
2. Its not driving at all, will start but dies straight away.
3. Have a receipt and paid with bank card.

dgt

I also should have asked what vehicle you have, d'oh!

So what vehicle is it?

fasttalkerchat

I would take a sample of 5 litres or so. Then go in and ask to speak to the owner/manager. Tell them what happened and that you have a sample. You want whatever amount of money or you will go to customs and guards.

Don't contact guards until you get your money or you will never get it.

tayto lover

fasttalkerchat wrote: »

I would take a sample of 5 litres or so. Then go in and ask to speak to the owner/manager. Tell them what happened and that you have a sample. You want whatever amount of money or you will go to customs and guards.

Don't contact guards until you get your money or you will never get it.

That's a form of blackmail/threat and will only get the OP in trouble.

kearney13

I have a seat inca sdi there wasnt a bother on it till I got that fuel and I was literally driving on fumes before I filled it up and next day going to work I was loosing power and it was pluming black smoke in high revs

I filled up with 30 liters as always and only did about 70 miles on it and well over half a tank left in it so its no bother to get it tested

I will go into them tomorrow and demand a new pump if not I'll get the law onto them

stoneill

Is it bad diesel or an airlock?
The fuel system may need to be bled, you shouldn't let diesels run down to fumes.

kearney13

We bled it earlier today alright but no joy, the diesel is goin into the pump but comes straight back out

fasttalkerchat

tayto lover wrote: »

That's a form of blackmail/threat and will only get the OP in trouble.

What are they gonna do? Call the guards?

Threatening to call the guards is not blackmail.

dgt

kearney13 wrote: »

I have a seat inca sdi there wasnt a bother on it till I got that fuel and I was literally driving on fumes before I filled it up and next day going to work I was loosing power and it was pluming black smoke in high revs

I filled up with 30 liters as always and only did about 70 miles on it and well over half a tank left in it so its no bother to get it tested

I will go into them tomorrow and demand a new pump if not I'll get the law onto them

At least it is a mechanical setup so if it an injector pump it isn't too complicated or dear to repair. At worst new injectors, a pump and a fresh supply of diesel.

Best to contact customs and seek their advice

Compton

fasttalkerchat wrote: »

I would take a sample of 5 litres or so. Then go in and ask to speak to the owner/manager. Tell them what happened and that you have a sample. You want whatever amount of money or you will go to customs and guards.

Don't contact guards until you get your money or you will never get it.

thats just stupid.

fasttalkerchat

Compton wrote: »

thats just stupid.

let's hear your idea so I can call it stupid then?

Dr Turk Turkelton

Same happened my uncles car in that place,but at the same time everyone should know by the price so can't have much sympathy.

Esel

fasttalkerchat wrote: »

let's hear your idea so I can call it stupid then?

Ask fasttalkerchat for advice.

max keane

Now listen carefully, I will only say this once. Get the sample tested (JHG Analytical Services waterford approx €80.00) there are some testing required to ascertain what the make up is. I recently bought "bad diesel" turns out the concentration of bio fuel allowed in normal road diesel was too high and ruined some of the injectors, tell the garage what you are doing so they are prepared and get a response in writing, don't waste your time with a solicitor ( I did, trust me they will only dishearten you). Apply online to the small claims court its your best chance to get up to €2000.00 back, if you go to circuit court it will cost to much even if you win, the small claims is €25.00 all in, just have everything documented.

The repairs to my injectors was €1100.00

Best of luck but don't let them away with it, everyone does even though its rife.

fasttalkerchat

max keane wrote: »

Now listen carefully, I will only say this once. Get the sample tested (JHG Analytical Services waterford approx €80.00) there are some testing required to ascertain what the make up is. I recently bought "bad diesel" turns out the concentration of bio fuel allowed in normal road diesel was too high and ruined some of the injectors, tell the garage what you are doing so they are prepared and get a response in writing, don't waste your time with a solicitor ( I did, trust me they will only dishearten you). Apply online to the small claims court its your best chance to get up to €2000.00 back, if you go to circuit court it will cost to much even if you win, the small claims is €25.00 all in, just have everything documented.

The repairs to my injectors was €1100.00

Best of luck but don't let them away with it, everyone does even though its rife.

I would be surprised if you even had to go as far as getting it tested. I know of a few cases where the garage has paid out on the first mention of involving courts/guards.

max keane

Unfortunately not, they basically called me a liar and that the sample I got tested was not from their pumps, if they start taking responsibility for all the bad diesel out there they would loose a lot of money so they will wait to see if you do anything about it, which most people don't.

Darsad

Over diluting of diesel with bio fuel is the biggest problem at present ! The current legal limit is 7% but we have had samples returned with readings up to 16% . Bio fuel causes all sorts of problems with modern high pressure common rail diesels. I think over mixing in the port is the only way they have of getting rid of the stuff that is manufactured here. the yellow fields look lovely in the summer though !

fasttalkerchat

If it came from Biodiesel its a slightly different case. They could have accidentally messed up the concentration so they customs and guards wouldn't have much to do with it (if at all).
In the case of washed diesel they know that if you call the customs and guards that they are looking at jail time plus thousands in fines and losing their petrol station. In that case they will pay for your injectors or fuel pump just to keep it quiet.

Darsad

Independent forecourts do not mix bio with diesel it is done by the fuel companies / distributors in their storage depots when the fuel arrives in the country .

max keane

That's why you need to get it tested so you know what you are dealing with.