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19" TV That Does Not Need Aerials

  • 05-05-2012 6:40pm
    #1
    hayzer
    Closed Accounts Posts: 86 ✭✭


    Can anyone reccommend a 19" tv that has saorview and can pick up other channels other than RTE etc...

    I need to get one that is portable and can work without access to an aerial/dish. Other than the ole rabbit ears

    Cheers


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  • #2
    The Cush
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,978 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    hayzer wrote: »
    Can anyone reccommend a 19" tv that has saorview and can pick up other channels other than RTE etc...

    This 19" Enox TV has both a terrestrial and FTA satellite tuners - http://www.amazon.co.uk/12v-Freeview-satellite-Pause-Live/dp/B005VZQAEY/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1336257164&sr=1-1.
    hayzer wrote: »
    I need to get one that is portable and can work without access to an aerial/dish. Other than the ole rabbit ears

    Satellite dish always required for the satellite channels - no way around it. For the terrestrial channels the rabbit ears may work depending on the terrestrial signal strength and quality where the aerial is located otherwise an attic or rooftop aerial will be required.


  • #3
    Plascebo
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    I bought a 19" off adverts, can pick up soarview with plug in aerial that I bought from powercity for €25, works a treat (plus plays avi through usb, all for €105). He still has a few for sale...


  • #4
    zg3409
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    As the cush has said for RTE etc is designed for rooftop aerials. You might be lucky and get a rabbits ears to work only if you happen to be within 0-3 up to 10 miles from the mast. Any further it simply won't work.

    For Sat channels (BBC etc) you need a dish.

    If you really want super portable consider camping dish and if you have the funds an auto tracking camping dish.

    The dish must be outside and able to see southern horizon.

    There are no quick fixes to get this to work.


  • #5
    lucernarian
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    zg3409 wrote: »
    As the cush has said for RTE etc is designed for rooftop aerials. You might be lucky and get a rabbits ears to work only if you happen to be within 0-3 up to 10 miles from the mast. Any further it simply won't work.

    For Sat channels (BBC etc) you need a dish.

    If you really want super portable consider camping dish and if you have the funds an auto tracking camping dish.

    The dish must be outside and able to see southern horizon.

    There are no quick fixes to get this to work.
    Ah come on now, the first paragraph is a ridiculous statement. Indoor aerials compromise reliability and are poor at stopping any nearby interference but they can work fine if interruptions can be tolerated and are infrequent. I can use a regular unamplified internal aerial in much of my home to pick up Cairn Hill, 60 miles away! RTE themselves have estimated about 50% of the population would be able to get (not always reliable) Saorview via indoor aerials and I would expect the number to be higher again if indoor aerials could always be left stuck to a window or else put in the attic and so on.


  • #6
    watty
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    RTE themselves have estimated about 50% of the population would be able to get (not always reliable) Saorview via indoor aerials
    Nonsense

    Where do RTE NL claim that?

    Even if they did claim it, it's nonsense.


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  • #7
    The Cush
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    watty wrote: »
    Where do RTE NL claim that?

    The Saorview FAQ.


  • #8
    Extinction
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    The Cush wrote: »
    The Saorview FAQ.

    Where in the FAQ? All I can see is this?

    Will my set-top-aerial or bunny / rabbit / cats ears work with SAORVIEW?
    You may be able to get SAORVIEW with your set-top-aerial but this is not guaranteed to work. Ideally you need a rooftop UHF aerial to get SAORVIEW.

    http://www.saorview.ie/help-support/faqs/aerials/


  • #9
    lucernarian
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,236 ✭✭✭lucernarian


    Thanks The Cush, it had taken me a while to search through the forum for where I read it.

    I had made the same claim in the past and I was told that it was nonsense too, irrespective of how I had tried indoor aerials of varying types in a wide variety of urban and rural settings in different counties. The RTENL statement correctly identifies the issue of reliability and I have made the point time and time again that, intermittent interference notwithstanding, indoor aerials are a cost effective way of allowing Saorview reception for a wide variety of people.

    @Watty, to continue to claim that these points are "nonsense" is outrageous on your part.

    You once made a claim that over 90% of properties within the M50 of Dublin are not able to use indoor aerials for Saorview in spite of how I detailed reception of it in a north-facing apartment in a low-lying part of Dublin city centre. Which is plainly a more challenging location for reception from a southerly DTT transmitter. These forums have literally dozens of reports of people making do with indoor aerials and it's reckless to insist people spend money on something above and beyond what people are satisfied with. €2 on a 50/50 chance that something will work fine, or >€100 on a 98% chance of success?

    Seeing as RTENL themselves claim similar figures to what I've said in the past, perhaps you could show some qualified reasonsing for your claims?


  • #10
    The Cush
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    Extinction wrote: »
    Where in the FAQ? All I can see is this?

    RTÉNL Saorview FAQ - http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=78497043#post78497043, Section 8.2, second paragraph.
    To_be_confirmed wrote: »
    Thanks The Cush, it had taken me a while to search through the forum for where I read it.

    Posted it here most recently - http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=77765202


  • #11
    zg3409
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    RTÉNL does not recommend the use of indoor portable aerials. They are too susceptible to localised physical and electrical interference. Terrestrial transmission of television, analogue and digital, is designed and built around rooftop reception.

    It will be possible for over 50% of the population to receive SAORVIEW with an indoor portable aerial. However on a house to house basis there are many factors than impact on the effectiveness of a portable aerial. For example the orientation of your house, the location of the television in the house, the construction materials, the insulation materials, the proximity to neighbouring houses, walls and obstructions will all impact reception.
    An outdoor aerial, positioned as high as possible, pointing towards the appropriate transmission site, with no local obstructions is recommended and will give the best results.

    From Saorview FAQ. I note this is population, many people in cities live close to a mast. Less so for rural population


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