Luas seats

pajor

It's college assignment time again.

Can anyone give me a figure for the number of seats on a Luas tram. I know it was 60, when they were 30 metres. 40 metres anyone?

Asked train questions before and got good response, don't let me down this time

CIE

A mere sixty seats on a vehicle that's over 98 feet long is a remarkable waste. Even the older dual-door Atlantean buses had twelve more seats than that. Of course, they want to squish 175 standees into the same vehicle; doesn't appeal to me.

The 40-metre-long vehicles (that's 131' 2" approx) have 80 seats. To be shared with 220 standees.

Cookie_Monster

CIE wrote: »

A mere sixty seats on a vehicle that's over 98 feet long is a remarkable waste.

how'd you figure that. Luas is mass transport, the key word being mass. They're designed to fit as many people as possible, not to fit as many seats as possible

Fatscally

Cookie_Monster wrote: »

how'd you figure that. Luas is mass transport, the key word being mass. They're designed to fit as many people as possible, not to fit as many seats as possible

I'd have said that the LUAS is Light Rail, the word being "light" as in not able to take a heavy load.

Cookie_Monster

Fatscally wrote: »

I'd have said that the LUAS is Light Rail, the word being "light" as in not able to take a heavy load.

yeah it is light rail and light rail is mass transport, what's your point?

300 people is 24 ton plus the weight of the vehicle.
how does a 40m Luas compare (300 cap) compare to the same lenth of DART capacity wise? the equiv lenght of 29k can carry 402 people so not much bigger really. 4 carraige unit 81.4m and 819 cap.

Losty Dublin

Light rail more refers to the overall build specification of the system as a whole, Scally. Luas isn't built for the same speeds that Dart or rail is capable of, it's an open street system with numerous stops and as such it has limitations compared to what heavy rail operates under.

BrianD

CIE wrote: »

A mere sixty seats on a vehicle that's over 98 feet long is a remarkable waste. Even the older dual-door Atlantean buses had twelve more seats than that. Of course, they want to squish 175 standees into the same vehicle; doesn't appeal to me.

The 40-metre-long vehicles (that's 131' 2" approx) have 80 seats. To be shared with 220 standees.

For trams it's about standing room and not providing seats. Irish people seem to have an obsession with having a seat on public transport.

Seat layouts are dreadful on DART and suburban rail

dowlingm

another fight in an empty room :rolleyes:

pajor

dowlingm wrote: »

another fight in an empty room :rolleyes:

Exactly. :pac:

Thanks to the provider of the actual answer...

Victor

Pajor, I think the amount of seats actually varies between sub-models.

When the monkey bars were fitted to the older (3000 + 4000 series) trams, some seats were taken out. The 5000 series may be different again.

It would be useful cheking with Laus / RPA.