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DPD Ireland Ripoff Prices

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  • 02-05-2012 2:57am
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 29


    I needed to send a package-parcel to a non-European destination and decided to price around so I checked DPD couriers except they haven't got any real-time pricing quote available on their website: you must email them for a quote! Having emailed them, they finally responded two days later and gave me a quote of 70 for an item. This compares to €17 with An Post!

    Anyone looking to post a package-parcel should be aware of this - An Post are the cheapest and my package was delivered on time too. Go with the most competitive. :cool:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,594 ✭✭✭sandin


    Dpd are not set up for single parcel accounts and the hassle of one box is not worth it as they have go complete paperwork and import documentation. An post are the opposite - they mainly deal with one off deliveries and they have a different system for both customs entry and go by weight whereas soda chargd s box price.

    In my experience dpd are way cheaper than an post - but I'm a big account and have negotiated rates.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29 Transpirant



    DPD
    are NOT cheaper than An Post! Have you even researched their prices? Import documentation is non-applicable because I was posting the item abroad. An Post simply give you a sticker to fill in the name, address and description of item, not even a 5 minute job. Hardly ''complete paperwork''.

    You are crazy going with DPD because DPD are certainly more expensive than An Post. Honestly, you need to research the prices and see the truth. There is nothing cheap about DPD - they are a ripoff.

    Hope you aren't passing on those costs to your customers because of a lack of research.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,594 ✭✭✭sandin


    DPD are NOT cheaper than An Post! Have you even researched their prices? Import documentation is non-applicable because I was posting the item abroad. An Post simply give you a sticker to fill in the name, address and description of item, not even a 5 minute job. Hardly ''complete paperwork''.

    You are crazy going with DPD because DPD are certainly more expensive than An Post. Honestly, you need to research the prices and see the truth. There is nothing cheap about DPD - they are a ripoff.

    Hope you aren't passing on those costs to your customers because of a lack of research.

    I send in excess of 500 parcels a week - I can assure you I check every cost down to the last cent as I don't charge any shipping fees. For me DPD are cheaper than An post. But as I said, and you obviously did not read, I have "negotiated" rates with both carriers. And nearky every other business taht send parcels will have special rates too.

    e.g. Parcel of 20kg to UK. DPD = 7.50, an post 11.20, parcel of 20kg to France, DPD = 10.80, an Post €16.00. 20kg parcel to anywhere in Ireland - due to contract I cannot say exact price, but an post are 65c more expensive, but both dpd and an post are under €5.

    In your case, you seem to be a walk in customer with one parcel and possibly won't be sending a parcel again for a few weeks. DPD are not interested nor set up for you, but An Post are. For exporting outside EU, DPD (DHL, UPS, INTERLINK etc etc) need 4 copies of invoice and a commodity code. An Post utilise international postal agreements and can cut this down to a little green slip.

    A little understanding of what different companies are about will open your eyes wider to costs / value.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29 Transpirant


    sandin wrote: »
    I send in excess of 500 parcels a week - I can assure you I check every cost down to the last cent as I don't charge any shipping fees. For me DPD are cheaper than An post. But as I said, and you obviously did not read, I have "negotiated" rates with both carriers. And nearky every other business taht send parcels will have special rates too.

    e.g. Parcel of 20kg to UK. DPD = 7.50, an post 11.20, parcel of 20kg to France, DPD = 10.80, an Post €16.00. 20kg parcel to anywhere in Ireland - due to contract I cannot say exact price, but an post are 65c more expensive, but both dpd and an post are under €5.

    In your case, you seem to be a walk in customer with one parcel and possibly won't be sending a parcel again for a few weeks. DPD are not interested nor set up for you, but An Post are. For exporting outside EU, DPD (DHL, UPS, INTERLINK etc etc) need 4 copies of invoice and a commodity code. An Post utilise international postal agreements and can cut this down to a little green slip.

    A little understanding of what different companies are about will open your eyes wider to costs / value.

    Please! No more silly excuses! I certainly intend to recommend An Post because of a more transparent system of quotation and also because when DPD reply to you, they sign themselves as ''regards, DPD''. No name of the person you are talking to, it feels like you are talking to a teleprompter machine.

    DHL/UPS/Interlink are also a ripoff - An Post works out an average of 70% cheaper than DPD and the aforementioned couriers. My business will use An Post and I intend to recommend An Post to IBEC for Businesses and Universities. No need to pay 70% more with DPD.


  • Registered Users Posts: 23,994 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    Please! No more silly excuses! I certainly intend to recommend An Post because of a more transparent system of quotation and also because when DPD reply to you, they sign themselves as ''regards, DPD''. No name of the person you are talking to, it feels like you are talking to a teleprompter machine.

    DHL/UPS/Interlink are also a ripoff - An Post works out an average of 70% cheaper than DPD and the aforementioned couriers. My business will use An Post and I intend to recommend An Post to IBEC for Businesses and Universities. No need to pay 70% more with DPD.

    It's a rip-off for the one-off consumer but not for bulk trade customers. It proves that the likes of DPD are only really interested in businesses that ship in large quantities, because it's more cost-effective for them.


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  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 14,860 Mod ✭✭✭✭whiterebel


    Please! No more silly excuses! I certainly intend to recommend An Post because of a more transparent system of quotation and also because when DPD reply to you, they sign themselves as ''regards, DPD''. No name of the person you are talking to, it feels like you are talking to a teleprompter machine.

    DHL/UPS/Interlink are also a ripoff - An Post works out an average of 70% cheaper than DPD and the aforementioned couriers. My business will use An Post and I intend to recommend An Post to IBEC for Businesses and Universities. No need to pay 70% more with DPD.

    You send one shipment, and you become an expert:rolleyes:

    Any business I know shipping any volume don't use An Post. They will use TNT, DHL, UPS etc. They are not competitive on national deliveries either.

    By the way DPD bought Interlink a couple of years ago so you might want to research a bit better in future.;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29 Transpirant


    ejmaztec wrote: »
    It's a rip-off for the one-off consumer but not for bulk trade customers. It proves that the likes of DPD are only really interested in businesses that ship in large quantities, because it's more cost-effective for them.

    But for Ireland this wouldn't work out. It's not a level playing field because it rewards pig capitalism (businesses) ahead of consumers by charging them different prices. I'm not sure if this borders on competition irregularities under the competition act. That's why I'm personally in favor of a third band of income tax for companies and businesses like this who discriminate against customers. They don't have any transparent quote system on their website because they want to charge different rates. DPD are to be avoided at all costs.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29 Transpirant


    whiterebel wrote: »
    You send one shipment, and you become an expert:rolleyes: Any business I know shipping any volume don't use An Post. They will use TNT, DHL, UPS etc. They are not competitive on national deliveries either.By the way DPD bought Interlink a couple of years ago so you might want to research a bit better in future.;)

    Over a seven week period, I requested multiple quotes for different items and An Post averaged 70% cheaper. There are many businesses using An Post because mine uses it and I have seen many others in our local Post Office. An Post are much more competitive on prices than ANY of these couriers. I checked the others too and DHL was the most expensive.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,203 ✭✭✭Goose81


    But for Ireland this wouldn't work out. It's not a level playing field because it rewards pig capitalism (businesses) ahead of consumers by charging them different prices. I'm not sure if this borders on competition irregularities under the competition act. That's why I'm personally in favor of a third band of income tax for companies and businesses like this who discriminate against customers. They don't have any transparent quote system on their website because they want to charge different rates. DPD are to be avoided at all costs.

    So you think they should charge someone who ships one parcel a month and someone/businees who ships 500 parcels in a month the same price per parcel?

    Good luck with your business :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29 Transpirant


    After reading about this, I'm so glad I avoided DPD. :eek:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29 Transpirant


    Goose81 wrote: »
    So you think they should charge someone who ships one parcel a month and someone/businees who ships 500 parcels in a month the same price per parcel?Good luck with your business :rolleyes:

    It's a shame you support a flawed business policy that always ends badly. It shows the extent to how unprofessional some Irish businesses unethically behave for money. Good luck finding customers with that attitude.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,203 ✭✭✭Goose81


    It's a shame you support a flawed business policy that always ends badly. It shows the extent to how unprofessional some Irish businesses unethically behave for money. Good luck finding customers with that attitude.


    Business rewards customers that use them more frequently, if they didnt their customers will choose someone else.

    Why do you think you should be entitled to the same price as someone who provides them far more business?

    For the record I dont work for DPD or any other shipping company, its called having common sense.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 14,860 Mod ✭✭✭✭whiterebel


    It's a shame you support a flawed business policy that always ends badly. It shows the extent to how unprofessional some Irish businesses unethically behave for money. Good luck finding customers with that attitude.

    Yes a customer would be so happy at being rewarded for shipping 500 parcels a month, by charging a one-off the same.
    And you're ranting about DPD despite your extensive investigation showing DHL are the most expensive?:confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29 Transpirant


    Goose81 wrote: »
    Business rewards customers that use them more frequently, if they didnt their customers will choose someone else.

    Why do you think you should be entitled to the same price as someone who provides them far more business?

    For the record I dont work for DPD or any other shipping company, its called having common sense.

    But that isn't competition and no they wouldn't choose somewhere else. I have some concerns this type of policy is bordering on a violation of European law too. The EU directive on competition obliges the member state to ensure companies have ''financial transparency''. In fact, I think I'll report this.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 14,860 Mod ✭✭✭✭whiterebel


    But that isn't competition and no they wouldn't choose somewhere else. I have some concerns this type of policy is bordering on a violation of European law too. The EU directive on competition obliges the member state to ensure companies have ''financial transparency''. In fact, I think I'll report this.

    They all quote different prices, why isn't it competition? You decided to use the specialist in one-off shipments, and got the cheapest price. `If they all offered the same rate, that would be a lack of competition.

    Most companies operate by giving better prices/deals to customers that order more. You should provide a laugh to the competition authority, just a pity its a complete waste of their time.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,203 ✭✭✭Goose81


    I don't think this chaps the full shilling, I'm out.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29 Transpirant


    whiterebel,

    I'm not sure if you carefully read my previous post. The hint is in the ''financial transparency'' bit.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 14,860 Mod ✭✭✭✭whiterebel


    Goose81 wrote: »
    I don't think this chaps the full shilling, I'm out.

    Yes, same here.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,462 ✭✭✭red menace


    Goose81 wrote: »
    Business rewards customers that use them more frequently, if they didnt their customers will choose someone else.

    Why do you think you should be entitled to the same price as someone who provides them far more business?

    For the record I dont work for DPD or any other shipping company, its called having common sense.

    But that isn't competition and no they wouldn't choose somewhere else. I have some concerns this type of policy is bordering on a violation of European law too. The EU directive on competition obliges the member state to ensure companies have ''financial transparency''. In fact, I think I'll report this.

    That's quite the shoulder chip you habe there. Did you ask for a break down if the costs? I worked for a company that shipped a lot of goods overseas and we were always required to produce lists of items with part numbers, country of manufacture and values.It was always a pain in the Arse to get everything in order. I wish I had read this sooner so I could have nipped to the post office and saved myself the paperwork

    Would you ask a roadbuilder to pave your garden path?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,594 ✭✭✭sandin


    After reading about this, I'm so glad I avoided DPD. :eek:

    can't see the problem there - one person had an issue because they did not package the bonnett properly. That's their issue, not dpd's.

    I wonder how the bonnet would have arrived using An Post - whoops, an post wouldn't have accepted it as it exceeds their size.

    Nearly every other post on that thread says DPD are excellent.


    Why I use DPD

    1. They are 16% cheaper than An Post for Irish Deliveries. 30% + cheaper for UK deliveries and up to 50% cheaper for European deliveries. All based on specially negotiated bulk rates with both carriers.
    2. They text customers in the morning and give them a 2 hour time frame for delivery. (not available with an post)
    3. I can track the parcel online in real time. (not available with an post)
    4. I can contact the depot / driver in relation to a specific parcel (you cannot do this with an Post)
    5. If a parcel goes missing and does not turn up after 3 days, I am compensated for the loss ad the cost of the product is taken off the next staement. - (An post system is non existent, still waitin on claims from last Christmas)


    Where An Post win out is on small light packages (upto 2kg) / large envelopes that fit in letterboxes. - But that's their speciality, but then number of packages I send that meet this criteria is virtually zero.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 23,994 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    But for Ireland this wouldn't work out. It's not a level playing field because it rewards pig capitalism (businesses) ahead of consumers by charging them different prices. I'm not sure if this borders on competition irregularities under the competition act. That's why I'm personally in favor of a third band of income tax for companies and businesses like this who discriminate against customers. They don't have any transparent quote system on their website because they want to charge different rates. DPD are to be avoided at all costs.

    It's been working out in Ireland and worldwide since the dawn of courier-companies.

    If I were running a courier company, I'd want all of my vehicles, containers etc., as full as possible at all times, so it's logical to offer bulk discounts to bulk business customers, because they're the ones that are going to help take up all of the space in the shortest possible time.

    I suppose you think that a person buying an item from a manufacturer should be charged the same item price as someone buying 10,000 of them? Perhaps they should be reported to the competition authority as well?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29 Transpirant


    sandin wrote: »
    can't see the problem there - one person had an issue because they did not package the bonnett properly. That's their issue, not dpd's.


    How is it the customers fault when DPD damaged their item? DPD treated it like **** and clearly threw it onto their wagon when they were delivering it. You still cannot see the problem?!? Oh wait, you obviously have closer connections to DPD than you are letting on.

    sandin wrote: »
    Nearly every other post on that thread says DPD are excellent.

    DPD may be trying to counter any complaints about them so I'm betting some of those defenders either work for DPD or have close affiliations with DPD.

    sandin wrote: »
    Why I use DPD

    1. They are 16% cheaper than An Post for Irish Deliveries. 30% + cheaper for UK deliveries and up to 50% cheaper for European deliveries. All based on specially negotiated bulk rates with both carriers.

    That is not true. An Post are cheaper if you research their prices properly.
    sandin wrote: »
    2. They text customers in the morning and give them a 2 hour time frame for delivery. (not available with an post)


    An Post offer an expedited parcel delivery service too.
    sandin wrote: »
    3. I can track the parcel online in real time. (not available with an post)


    That is patently false. An Post's ''registered post'' gives real time updates with a tracking number.
    sandin wrote: »
    4. I can contact the depot / driver in relation to a specific parcel (you cannot do this with an Post)


    DPD are frequently mentioned as never answering their phones. There are many customer complaints on boards.ie highlighting this.
    sandin wrote: »
    5. If a parcel goes missing and does not turn up after 3 days, I am compensated for the loss ad the cost of the product is taken off the next staement. - (An post system is non existent, still waitin on claims from last Christmas)


    An Post have a better customer service when dealing with the public as evident by their track record. DPD are only new and as I pointed on previous page, DPD respond to a customer as ''regards, DPD''. They also took two days to reply to me with a quote. Unlike An Post who have a real time quote system available on their website. Who's the better service now.

    sandin wrote: »
    Where An Post win out is on small light packages (upto 2kg) / large envelopes that fit in letterboxes. - But that's their speciality, but then number of packages I send that meet this criteria is virtually zero.

    I will be recommending An Post to IBEC tomorrow morning for Businesses.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29 Transpirant


    ejmaztec wrote: »
    It's been working out in Ireland and worldwide since the dawn of courier-companies.

    If I were running a courier company, I'd want all of my vehicles, containers etc., as full as possible at all times, so it's logical to offer bulk discounts to bulk business customers, because they're the ones that are going to help take up all of the space in the shortest possible time.

    I suppose you think that a person buying an item from a manufacturer should be charged the same item price as someone buying 10,000 of them? Perhaps they should be reported to the competition authority as well?

    That's not the issue they are being cited for.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 816 ✭✭✭Opinicus


    calm-down.jpg


    OK we get it, DPD are expensive for some things but, if they were really as bad or outrageously expensive as you say then I don't think they would still be in business would they?


  • Registered Users Posts: 23,994 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    That's not the issue they are being cited for.

    You decided to enter this particular territory, so I decided to comment on it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,594 ✭✭✭sandin


    How is it the customers fault when DPD damaged their item? DPD treated it like **** and clearly threw it onto their wagon when they were delivering it. You still cannot see the problem?!? Oh wait, you obviously have closer connections to DPD than you are letting on.






    That is not true. An Post are cheaper if you research their prices properly.




    An Post offer an expedited parcel delivery service too.




    That is patently false. An Post's ''registered post'' gives real time updates with a tracking number.






    An Post have a better customer service when dealing with the public as evident by their track record. DPD are only new and as I pointed on previous page, DPD respond to a customer as ''regards, DPD''. They also took two days to reply to me with a quote. Unlike An Post who have a real time quote system available on their website. Who's the better service now.




    I will be recommending An Post to IBEC tomorrow morning for Businesses.

    1. All parcel companies request that anything you send is packaged properly. - There are specialist car part couriers, but some people are not prepared to pay a little extra for a specialist service. That's their risk. Same applies to An Post - if it is not suitably packaged, it will be damaged and they will ntotake responsibility for it. - they won;t even accept it over the counter in the first place. (and neither should they)

    2. As someone that sends over 500 parcels a week with peak dispatches over circa 2000 parcels in a week, I can assure you I research prices and get the best possible deal out of all couriers. Currently DPD come in the lowest of all firms for my business. 16% lower than An Post and 5% lower than fastway.

    3. My comparison is DPD next day service versus An Post next day service - parcel up to 30kg. An IDENTICAL comparison.

    4. An post DON'T do real time updates - it is updated after the delivery round has been completed. Id DPD deliver at 9.15am, it shows on my screen at 9.15am with the signature and name of the person that accepted the parcel.

    5. DPD are a fully owned subsiduary of LaPoste - The French Post office and have been around for many many years. They are a GLOBAL company with offices worldwide. They specialise in Business to Consumer and business to business delivery. they DO NOT target nor advertise in any way a Consumer to consumer delivery service. The same way Musgraves do not advertise to the local consumer. Oh yeah - their turnover last year was 3.3 BILLION euro.

    6 - WHAT ON EARTH has IBEC got to do with this?

    7. I have no issue with An Post, I use them as well as DPD as they ae particulary good at small packets and large envelope delivery. They are also good for rural delivery. But in the main DPD provide me with a better service for my needs. For YOUR needs An Post provided a better servcie. That's call point of difference between two different companies. An Post are a CONSUMER oriented company and DPD are a BUSINESS oriented company - See that?? - Two DIFFERENT modes of operation.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 63 ✭✭marinbike


    I needed to send a package-parcel to a non-European destination and decided to price around so I checked DPD couriers except they haven't got any real-time pricing quote available on their website: you must email them for a quote! Having emailed them, they finally responded two days later and gave me a quote of 70 for an item. This compares to €17 with An Post!

    Anyone looking to post a package-parcel should be aware of this - An Post are the cheapest and my package was delivered on time too. Go with the most competitive. :cool:

    Thx for the info! I will not be using dpd when I'm posting my next parcel. That sounds like a total rip off.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,594 ✭✭✭sandin


    marinbike wrote: »
    Thx for the info! I will not be using dpd when I'm posting my next parcel. That sounds like a total rip off.

    btw - the OP doesn't tell you that his "parcel" was less than 2kg and came within An Post's small packet rate. (e.g. smaller than a shoe box)

    If it was say, 5kg and was the size of a box of wine, An Post's rate would have been €60.00

    Or of it was still 2kg and was bigger than a shoe box, the rate would have been €32


    http://www.anpost.ie/AnPost/PostalRates/Standard+Post.htm

    Whereas, i can send something up to 30kg that is up to 2metres long for about €18 to a country such as Norway (non eu) via DPD. The An Post website rate for the same package is €65

    Now can you tell me which is cheaper based on my needs?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 63 ✭✭marinbike


    DPD comes just 2.6 out of 10:

    http://www.trustpilot.co.uk/review/www.dpd.co.uk



    There is also an interesting forum thread about DPD on Amazon now as well: See here


    According to another review about DPD:

    '' staff from DPD which were rude, offensive and highly unprofessional.(A recent comment by one of their drivers has been grabbed in case it gets removed again). Here it is:
    dpd_driver_comments-150x66.jpg ''


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,594 ✭✭✭sandin


    marinbike wrote: »
    DPD comes just 2.6 out of 10:

    http://www.trustpilot.co.uk/review/www.dpd.co.uk



    There is also an interesting forum thread about DPD on Amazon now as well: See here


    According to another review about DPD:

    '' staff from DPD which were rude, offensive and highly unprofessional.(A recent comment by one of their drivers has been grabbed in case it gets removed again). Here it is:
    dpd_driver_comments-150x66.jpg ''

    And if you key in An post problems, DHL problems, UPS problems, GLS problems you'll get as many issues as you get with DPD. Even here tehre are numerous threads about An Post not delivering parcels and only dropping in calling cards.

    As i said, DPD are a business servcie for business users, An Post as a consumer service for consumer users and also are a business service for busienss users.

    You use who suits you best.


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