308 0r 270??

driller2

Well lads.I have being stalking deer for the last 4 seasons using a tikka 243.i am upgrading the rifle to a 308 or a 270.Most of my shots are from 60 to 200 yards.its all fallow deer up my way.what do u think 308 or 270 ???

It wasn't me!

Whichever one you like the rifle in. Honestly, the two are inseparably close in terms of what you can do with them. You'd never tell the difference in the field.

steyrman2

Hi both good rounds i have had both .270 limited to bullets between 110 grain and 150 grain i had some great results with hornady 130 sst and foxing with 110 vmax hornady do both rounds
The .308 had a bigger choice from 110 grain up to 220 grain i shot my last .308 and used 125 btips and 150 softnose for stalking and 165 sst rounds less recoil from the .308 but using a mod on them there both good hard choice tbh i did favour the .308 i allways liked the idea of 30 cal
The say the .270 is flatter shooting and harder hitting my taught is a lot of .270 owners never had a .308 and most never will hard to change lads minds
I have changed now to .300 winmag but thats a different story :rolleyes::rolleyes:

It wasn't me!

steyrman2 wrote: »

Hi both good rounds i have had both .270 limited to bullets between 110 grain and 150 grain i had some great results with hornady 130 sst and foxing with 110 vmax hornady do both rounds
The .308 had a bigger choice from 110 grain up to 220 grain i shot my last .308 and used 125 btips and 150 softnose for stalking and 165 sst rounds less recoil from the .308 but using a mod on them there both good hard choice tbh i did favour the .308 i allways liked the idea of 30 cal
The say the .270 is flatter shooting and harder hitting my taught is a lot of .270 owners never had a .308 and most never will hard to change lads minds
I have changed now to .300 winmag but thats a different story :rolleyes::rolleyes:

Heh, the .300 mag is a different kettle of fish alright! How have you found it? What rig are you running it in?

crackcrack30

Hi driller,

Why are u trading up from the .243?, at those distances it should be plenty for fallow, just asking........(sorry for off subject)

cc30

deerhunter1

driller2 wrote: »

Well lads.I have being stalking deer for the last 4 seasons using a tikka 243.i am upgrading the rifle to a 308 or a 270.Most of my shots are from 60 to 200 yards.its all fallow deer up my way.what do u think 308 or 270 ???

308 308 308:D

deerhunter1

It wasn't me! wrote: »

Whichever one you like the rifle in. Honestly, the two are inseparably close in terms of what you can do with them. You'd never tell the difference in the field.

you would recoil and noise

It wasn't me!

Noise, maybe, but not recoil. Having shot a bunch of each, once they weigh around the same, I can't tell the difference. Just ran the numbers through a recoil calculator and the .308 comes out at 16.2 ft/lbs and the .270 at 16.7 ft/lbs. I honestly don't believe anyone will ever know the difference. Blast gives an impression of extra recoil, but it's false.

deerhunter1

It wasn't me! wrote: »

Noise, maybe, but not recoil. Having shot a bunch of each, once they weigh around the same, I can't tell the difference. Just ran the numbers through a recoil calculator and the .308 comes out at 16.2 ft/lbs and the .270 at 16.7 ft/lbs. I honestly don't believe anyone will ever know the difference. Blast gives an impression of extra recoil, but it's false.

Oh I thought there was a fairly big gap between recoils, as I have had 270's and 243's and 308's (and 6.5's:)and I found a big difference between the 308 and 270

It wasn't me!

deerhunter1 wrote: »

Oh I thought there was a fairly big gap between recoils, as I have had 270's and 243's and 308's (and 6.5's:)and I found a big difference between the 308 and 270

I honestly can't tell the difference. 6.5x55 and .243 a bit milder than either, but realistically there's so little in it it makes no difference at all between the .270 and the .308. Put it this way: If you can shoot one you can shoot the other. If someone handed me one or the other in the field, I really couldn't tell the difference.

dbrock

i use a 270 weatherby mag, and recently got a 243 for foxing, have to say the 243 will prob be used alot more this season for stalking than the 270,
you can get cheaper rounds for the 308 for doing a bit of target shooting if your into that to,

Hibrion

Go for the 270 and you will never regret it. Apply for a mod too and you will have negligible recoil and noise.

Buy as good a rifle as you can then to get the most out of an excellent calibre.

BTW: I used to have a 308 which I changed for a 30-06. If I didn't have a 30-06, I'd have a 270.

tomcat220t

driller2 wrote: »

Well lads.I have being stalking deer for the last 4 seasons using a tikka 243.i am upgrading the rifle to a 308 or a 270.Most of my shots are from 60 to 200 yards.its all fallow deer up my way.what do u think 308 or 270 ???

As said ,if limiting your shots to 200 yards ,25cal ,6.5 ,270,30 cal ..... will all put deer down with the right shot placement ,every time .
If your looking for an out and out stalking rig a 20" .270 rifle will serve best over a .308

driller2

crackcrack30 wrote: »

Hi driller,

Why are u trading up from the .243?, at those distances it should be plenty for fallow, just asking........(sorry for off subject)

cc30

The reason for trading is i have that gun 5 years and i think it s time for a new toy.Over the years i shot a couple of deer and the bullet didnt stop them on the spot, most of my shots are heart and lung shots.

Glensman

I notice a large difference in recoil between a .270 and a .308.

I love my .270 and would never swap it, it gives you unreal confidence every time you pull the trigger. For an all-round stalking calibre few would argue the .270 is more verstaile. It is flatter shooting and harder hitting. But the deer will hardly notice.

My .270 is lightweight. Fibre stock and sporter barrel. I found the recoil hard to manage for prone shots so I put a muzzle-brake on the end. It's a lot nicer to shoot now, but you need ear plugs.

crackcrack30

driller2 wrote: »

The reason for trading is i have that gun 5 years and i think it s time for a new toy.Over the years i shot a couple of deer and the bullet didnt stop them on the spot, most of my shots are heart and lung shots.

Depending on retained blood pressure, blood oxygen levels & adrenaline levels (regardless of chest damage or bullet) the deer are well capable of running for up to a minute at speed...

cc30

It wasn't me!

If you're lung shooting, unless you need the extra poke for sharp angles or that, neither a .308 or a .270 is going to kill deer at normal ranges faster than your .243. Not so that you'd notice anyway. By all means, just get something for a change, but don't expect dramatically different results. If you do, all you'll do is convince yourself you're seeing them. Might not be any harm, but realistically, anything that goes in and mushes up vital organs is going to do exactly the same thing as anything else, and the difference between a .244 cal and a .277 or a .308 cal bullet are pretty negligible once they hit the important bits.

German pointer

driller2 wrote: »

Well lads.I have being stalking deer for the last 4 seasons using a tikka 243.i am upgrading the rifle to a 308 or a 270.Most of my shots are from 60 to 200 yards.its all fallow deer up my way.what do u think 308 or 270 ???

Any one near you with a .270 or .308 where you could maybe go after a goat or fox and see what the results are ?

Glensman

German pointer wrote: »

Any one near you with a .270 or .308 where you could maybe go after a goat or fox and see what the results are ?

If you are going after fox with a .270 try to get your hands on some 90gr Speer TNT's.

There are very few 'results' left!! :eek:

German pointer

Glensman wrote: »

If you are going after fox with a .270 try to get your hands on some 90gr Speer TNT's.

There are very few 'results' left!! :eek:

not much left with the Hornady 130gr SST either:D:D

Glensman

German pointer wrote: »

not much left with the Hornady 130gr SST either:D:D

I've the photos to show that

Seriously though, the TNT's are WAY worse. Forget throwing it into a ditch, you'd need a shovel.

crackcrack30

You should leave one in somewhere to get it stuffed and then leave without opening the bag:D

German pointer

Glensman wrote: »

I've the photos to show that

Seriously though, the TNT's are WAY worse. Forget throwing it into a ditch, you'd need a shovel.

must have a look for them. Is there much scope correction from the SST's

Glensman

German pointer wrote: »

must have a look for them. Is there much scope correction from the SST's

Well they are going a lot faster so it's going to be a couple of inches high at 200yards. I need to Chrono some the next time im free, I'll let you know the results then...

meathstevie

Personally I think there's only one major advantage to a .308 and that's versatility and cost of ammo. It's seems to be always a bit easier to find a wider choice at slightly better prices for a .308. Bullet weights and capabilities are to any practical extent the same.

Hibrion

Price of ammo shouldn't be much of an issue. Sure you can buy cheap ammo for the 308, but most of us will be using a quality brand ammo for a hunting rifle. The likes of Hornady SSTs are going to cost more or less the same in any calibre.

Now if you want a duel purpose rifle for cheap target practice and the odd bit of hunting, the 308 has the edge. But for a pure hunting rifle, I wouldn't be overly concerned about ammo, unless it was a particularly rare calibre where ammo is unusual in this country.

driller2

Thanks lads for all the replys.i went with the 308 in the end i like the amount of ammo on the market for it.payed for the gun yesterday and sent off my licence for it should have it back in a week or two.:D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=

juice1304

driller2 wrote: »

Thanks lads for all the replys.i went with the 308 in the end i like the amount of ammo on the market for it.payed for the gun yesterday and sent off my licence for it should have it back in a week or two.:D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=

What rifle did you go for?

4200fps

The .270 is power-fuller and flatter than the .308 from what i see on Hornadys site. There's a good lock of rounds available for the .270 but i'd go for a .270 quicker than a .308 even though the .308 is a great caliber too.