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the "toy" camera
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01-05-2012 1:53pm#1just curious, are there any/many "toy" camera shooters out there. I know a camera is a camera so perhaps the toy classification is a misnomer but holgas, dianas, the recesky TLR, or anything else that is significantly made of plastic is what i'm talking about.
Many of the camera apps for your smartphone have an almost obligatory toy camera filter built in, so no doubt there is amazing popularity to it.
One of the photographic joys of the last year (not that there were many for me - i really should make more time) was the purchasing of a "holga" lens to stick on the front of the DSLR (probably not real holga as it was described, but it was plastic with shag all control of anything). It cost about €6 or €7 i think with postage included from china, hong kong, or somewhere like that.
It doesn't miraculously transform you into a serious retro wielding ninja photographer that the entire world will put above a Gursky, but surprisingly it is very rewarding (at least for me) in terms of the odd and imperfect image which you get out of it. Flippin dark to look into too - sometimes you are better to point and shoot without looking as you won't see anyway.
I find it to be fun and photography should be fun.
Once you've understood what it takes to make technically perfect images you may find that technical perfection is somewhat limited and well can be downright boring (yes, yawn.....
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I guess in many ways each to their own and it is likely that people may see them as trite so i'm just wondering what peoples attitudes to them are? Like em, or loathe them - all opinions are valid. Which have you that you love to take out on occasion (if any) or is it just plain stoopid for you
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Eddie Mallin does some lovely holga stuff.just curious, are there any/many "toy" camera shooters out there. I know a camera is a camera so perhaps the toy classification is a misnomer but holgas, dianas, the recesky TLR, or anything else that is significantly made of plastic is what i'm talking about.
Many of the camera apps for your smartphone have an almost obligatory toy camera filter built in, so no doubt there is amazing popularity to it.
One of the photographic joys of the last year (not that there were many for me - i really should make more time) was the purchasing of a "holga" lens to stick on the front of the DSLR (probably not real holga as it was described, but it was plastic with shag all control of anything). It cost about €6 or €7 i think with postage included from china, hong kong, or somewhere like that.
It doesn't miraculously transform you into a serious retro wielding ninja photographer that the entire world will put above a Gursky, but surprisingly it is very rewarding (at least for me) in terms of the odd and imperfect image which you get out of it. Flippin dark to look into too - sometimes you are better to point and shoot without looking as you won't see anyway.
I find it to be fun and photography should be fun.
Once you've understood what it takes to make technically perfect images you may find that technical perfection is somewhat limited and well can be downright boring (yes, yawn.....)
I guess in many ways each to their own and it is likely that people may see them as trite so i'm just wondering what peoples attitudes to them are? Like em, or loathe them - all opinions are valid. Which have you that you love to take out on occasion (if any) or is it just plain stoopid for you0 -
I go through phases ...
I've got one of those gakkenflex TLRs that the recesky yoke was based on:
And a vivitar UWS:
Do Brownies count as toy cameras ? Probably not, but then the Holga wasn't meant to be one initially, nor the Diana.
There is a kind of liberating freedom in knowing that you can't affect the outcome of the shot in any way whatsoever other than pointing the camera in some direction. One shutter speed, One aperture and that's that. When the old noggin is engaged and conditions are good they're all capable of some fine shots.0 -
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I have a camera made of toy....
No focus control. Digital shutter speed control (literally, I move my digit from in front of the pinhole to start the exposure and put it back to stop it). No viewfinder. Minimal control over results other than what you point it at.
I love it.
And it has a gnome.0 -
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I know that this is drifting away from the "toy" lenses, but if you look on ebay then you can usually pick up old M42 mount lenses for next to nothing, and an AF confirm adaptor for ~€20. Less if you go without the AF adaptor, although it allows for metering as well as focus confirmation, allowing you to use Aperture priority as well as full manual.
The great thing about these lenses is the scope of quality, I have two at the moment, a Helios 44-4 (58mm f2), which is pin sharp and gives lovely bokeh and contrast (cost me €40 including the Zenit 12xp it was attached too), and at the other end of the scale, a Domiplan f2.8 50mm.
The Domiplan has toy camera qualities ghosting, soft edges, reduced contrast, easily flares. But it also has fully adjustable aperture and focus, so you can have all the Holga effects, with nice DoF and short shutter speeds (I think Holga is f11?).
Definitely have a look at some M42 lenses, they are an addiction!
Here are some examples of the Helios 44-4:
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Adrian.Sadlier wrote: »Why?
erm... why what?
why title it 'through imperfect glass'? a reference to the lens used which strictly speaking isn't even glass but i know what i mean
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erm... why what?
why title it 'through imperfect glass'? a reference to the lens used which strictly speaking isn't even glass but i know what i mean
No, not why title it that - just why use imperfect glass? I fail to see the point of it. When I was a kid I used a cheap camera (and that's not yesterday) and was amazed when I got a picture of any description. But I grew up, moved on and could afford a decent camera (and glass) - so I don't want to go back to poor quality photographs (at least not intentional ones - I know I produce a lot of Cr%$).
I don't mean to be insulting or derogatory - I just don't undertstand the logic of the whole toy camera thing! Maybe I'm a philistine :-)0 -
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DaireQuinlan wrote: »recursive thread is recursive :eek:
gah, we've just been moderated from the random thread
I ask, is there no fear respect left with these forum moderators anymore.
/upstarts i tells ya :pac:
(that said, I like recursion. You can lose yourself for lifetimes in them)
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that's a lot of smileys i know.
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