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Tribovax T – clostridial for cattle

  • 29-04-2012 10:20pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16


    I have 20 ml bottle of clostridial, I used about 10 ml 6 months ago, my question is on the label is said open containers should be discarded within 8 hours of opening???

    The best before is May 2013
    Is this when I opened it the 1st time??
    Or can I use the remaining 10 ml now, I did have it in the fridge since I used it 6 months ago?

    Thanks


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,717 ✭✭✭LostCovey


    crystalmac wrote: »
    I have 20 ml bottle of clostridial, I used about 10 ml 6 months ago, my question is on the label is said open containers should be discarded within 8 hours of opening???

    The best before is May 2013
    Is this when I opened it the 1st time??
    Or can I use the remaining 10 ml now, I did have it in the fridge since I used it 6 months ago?

    Thanks

    Given the risks of it either not working or being contaminated I would dump it.

    Especially if you put the same needle used for injecting the first animal into the bottle to draw off a shot for the next animal. Its probably contaminated.

    Not too dear either, dump it for all you'd be saving.

    LC


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 947 ✭✭✭leoch


    would you need to do heifers with tribovax that are from 11 months to 15/16 months now before i put them out as i dont think they were done when they were bought in at end of last year


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 597 ✭✭✭PatQfarmer


    LostCovey wrote: »
    Given the risks of it either not working or being contaminated I would dump it.

    Especially if you put the same needle used for injecting the first animal into the bottle to draw off a shot for the next animal. Its probably contaminated.

    Not too dear either, dump it for all you'd be saving.

    LC

    When using clostridial (usually Covexin 10), I try and match the bottle to the number I am going to dose.
    If this is not possible, I use one needle stuck in the bottle to draw the dose, then a different one to inject the animals.
    If I need to store for a FEW days, I seal with chewing gum and place in fridge. If longer, I throw it away!
    For the cost of the vaccine, it is better to follow the instructions than to have an animal die from Blackleg!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 378 ✭✭KCTK


    leoch wrote: »
    would you need to do heifers with tribovax that are from 11 months to 15/16 months now before i put them out as i dont think they were done when they were bought in at end of last year
    If they were not previously done then yes


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,786 ✭✭✭✭whelan1


    leoch wrote: »
    would you need to do heifers with tribovax that are from 11 months to 15/16 months now before i put them out as i dont think they were done when they were bought in at end of last year
    would do all bought in cattle for blackleg when they arrive, better to be safe than sorry


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,326 ✭✭✭Farmer Pudsey


    PatQfarmer wrote: »
    When using clostridial (usually Covexin 10), I try and match the bottle to the number I am going to dose.
    If this is not possible, I use one needle stuck in the bottle to draw the dose, then a different one to inject the animals.
    If I need to store for a FEW days, I seal with chewing gum and place in fridge. If longer, I throw it away!
    For the cost of the vaccine, it is better to follow the instructions than to have an animal die from Blackleg!

    As above use a sterile neddle to draw and transfer what you need into another bottle then seal the top of the new bottle with candle wax I was told it is good for 6 weeks and beyond as chippy reminded me make sure to keep in fridge. I try to match the bottle as well however as the 200m is only 50 more expensive than the 100mm the tempation is there. Have done it for a few years in a row now and have not have a problem. I started doing it with the bulls as they dig the ground a bit and a neighbour lost one and he blames them not being injected for clostridual disease.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,034 ✭✭✭Bizzum


    On the subject of sealing vials/bottles I generally use a dab of Vaseline.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,552 ✭✭✭pakalasa


    I use cellotape and leave a sterile needle in the bottle. Switch needles then to inject.

    Another thing too, do people sterilise their needles in boiling water? I'm amazed the number of times i see guys pick up a dirty needle from the wall or whatever, and inject an animal. I always boil mine and wouldn't even touch the needle afterwards, so as to keep it sterile.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 597 ✭✭✭PatQfarmer


    pakalasa wrote: »
    I use cellotape and leave a sterile needle in the bottle. Switch needles then to inject.

    Another thing too, do people sterilise their needles in boiling water? I'm amazed the number of times i see guys pick up a dirty needle from the wall or whatever, and inject an animal. I always boil mine and wouldn't even touch the needle afterwards, so as to keep it sterile.

    I may be over the top, but I use all disposables.
    The Vet supplies any amount of them with whatever meds he prescribes (reilig please note:)).
    If doing a crush full of cattle, then the same needle will be used as long as it stays straight, then changed as the crush refills.
    If injecting one animal, the needle and syringe is disposed of after each injection. No needles kept to re-use. Stored in old jars with slit in lid, then delivered back to Vet for Incineration or whatever.
    I also use disposable gloves when injecting anything or mixing/feeding milk.
    If you copy what the Vets do when they visit, you won't go too far wrong.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 943 ✭✭✭trabpc


    If yearlings get 2ml at turnout, do ye follow up with 2ml 6 weeks later. The Tribovax T box mentions this.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,489 ✭✭✭sh1tstirrer


    trabpc wrote: »
    If yearlings get 2ml at turnout, do ye follow up with 2ml 6 weeks later. The Tribovax T box mentions this.
    Only if bought in if you weren't sure they were done as calves with 2 shots. If they got the booster shot as calves one shot will do now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 943 ✭✭✭trabpc


    Only if bought in if you weren't sure they were done as calves with 2 shots. If they got the booster shot as calves one shot will do now.

    Thanks. If you didn't know would the extra injection matter.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 9,041 Mod ✭✭✭✭greysides


    trabpc wrote: »
    Thanks. If you didn't know would the extra injection matter.

    I wouldn't think so, just a higher immunity.

    The aim of argument, or of discussion, should not be victory, but progress. Joseph Joubert

    The ultimate purpose of debate is not to produce consensus. It's to promote critical thinking.

    Adam Grant



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,489 ✭✭✭sh1tstirrer


    trabpc wrote: »
    Thanks. If you didn't know would the extra injection matter.
    No it won't matter I've bought cattle at the mart before and always give them 2 shots.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,489 ✭✭✭sh1tstirrer


    trabpc wrote: »
    Thanks. If you didn't know would the extra injection matter.
    No it won't matter I've bought cattle at the mart before and always give them 2 shots. In fact I would give 2 injections even if the seller told me they got 2 shots as calves, I learned the hard way I bought cattle at the mart one time and assumed they were vaccinated a week later one if them dropped dead with blackleg,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 786 ✭✭✭Cattlepen


    Could an automatic injector keep vaccines fresher as it is all sealed from the bottle to the injector chamber? You could always squirt the liquid in the chamber on the ground and the next dose would be fresh from the bottle.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,090 ✭✭✭nhg


    We inject & dose every animal we buy when it arrives into our yard before being let out with other animals & follow up with the booster 6 weeks after


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