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Birdstrike at Dublin - EI164

  • 29-04-2012 12:13pm
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    Su Campu
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    Just listening to LiveATC and caught the end of a Ground transmission to Rescue vehicle "...just on rotation, watch out for carcass on R34". EI164 has just said it was them and ATC pointed out they hadn't found anything yet. The shamrock's continuing onwards to LHR (and took off from R10, so not sure why they're searching R34!!).


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    sparrowcar
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    Su Campu wrote: »
    Just listening to LiveATC and caught the end of a Ground transmission to Rescue vehicle "...just on rotation, watch out for carcass on R34". EI164 has just said it was them and ATC pointed out they hadn't found anything yet. The shamrock's continuing onwards to LHR (and took off from R10, so not sure why they're searching R34!!).

    At the intersection of the two maybe?


  • #3
    Names
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    sparrowcar wrote: »
    Su Campu wrote: »
    Just listening to LiveATC and caught the end of a Ground transmission to Rescue vehicle "...just on rotation, watch out for carcass on R34". EI164 has just said it was them and ATC pointed out they hadn't found anything yet. The shamrock's continuing onwards to LHR (and took off from R10, so not sure why they're searching R34!!).

    At the intersection of the two maybe?
    Dublin had just switched onto runway 34 due to the wind, 2 previous landers had just had missed approaches to runway 10. EI 164 would have already had the aircraft set up for rwy10, they were happy with the wind so they were allowed to take of from 10. The comment about 34 would have been due to the fact there were aircraft bring vectored for 34


  • #4
    Su Campu
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    Yes, they did switch runways then but still, the rotation point on R10 would not have been at the intersection with 34, which is right at the end.

    But anyway, the flight continued onwards to Heathrow and it then left again 1hr05 later. I was surprised that the crew elected to continue onwards with the flight after the strike. Could they be sure enough of the integrity of the outer structure to be happy? I assume that within the hour on the ground they got it checked, but an hour seems a quick turn around in that case?

    Easy for me to comment of course, I'm sure the crew knew exactly what they were doing! :)


  • #5
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    If it was only a small bird and it hit the radome at the relatively slow speed at takeoff then the damage would have been minimal if any.


  • #6
    lintdrummer
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    Su Campu wrote: »
    Yes, they did switch runways then but still, the rotation point on R10 would not have been at the intersection with 34, which is right at the end.

    But anyway, the flight continued onwards to Heathrow and it then left again 1hr05 later. I was surprised that the crew elected to continue onwards with the flight after the strike. Could they be sure enough of the integrity of the outer structure to be happy? I assume that within the hour on the ground they got it checked, but an hour seems a quick turn around in that case?

    Easy for me to comment of course, I'm sure the crew knew exactly what they were doing! :)

    The structure of a commercial jet is very capable of taking a bird strike without taking any damage. They are a very regular occurrence. As has been said, a small bird at low speed wouldn't cause concern.
    An hour is plenty of time to inspect. A visual inspection would suffice to determine if damage was done and if so, the extent of it.
    Now, ingesting geese is another thing!


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  • #7
    MoeJay
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    Depends on where they hit/when you hit them/how fast you are going....

    Bird hit one of the side windows in the flight deck at 250kt, no damage (to the airplane at least)

    But these guys...Birdstrike at 12000ft


  • #8
    Bearcat
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    You would be very surprised what modern turbofans can inJest as against the old turbo jets. Birds will generally be flung to the outer casing of the engine intake and discharged through the high bypass section as against going through the core. Still bird strikes are a very serious matter and per sully and the hudson.


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