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1" heavy gauge to 1" copper

  • 28-04-2012 2:08pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166 ✭✭


    lads i want to connect 1" copper to 1" heavy gauge piping.i want to know the most reliable way because its inside in a house.i dont really want to use philmac<especially not the new ones> i was thinking about the brass fittings they use on submersible pumps<they have the white grip ring and the black rubber and the brass nut and ring> im wondering do inch and a quarter compression fittings fit 1" hg?any ideas would be appreciated


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,019 ✭✭✭anthonyos


    1" 310 compress it undo it again wrap ptfe tape around the olives retighten the fitting bobs your uncle


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,409 ✭✭✭sullzz


    anthonyos wrote: »
    1" 310 compress it undo it again wrap ptfe tape around the olives retighten the fitting bobs your uncle

    A 1" 3:10 won't fit 1" heavy gauge hydro philmac fittings are your best bet once you fit them properly they are grand


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 533 ✭✭✭SmallBalls


    +1 for the Philmac


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166 ✭✭hsan


    sullzz wrote: »
    A 1" 3:10 won't fit 1" heavy gauge hydro philmac fittings are your best bet once you fit them properly they are grand

    ya thanks for that sullz.i ignored the other post because i knew he didnt know what he was talkin about.i dont mind using the old philmac fittings but i dont like the new ones.the only problem with the old ones is that they reduce the flow of water a lot.i presume i can get a philmac fitting that has the nut,grip ring and insert on one side and has a female thread on the other side to take an 1" 311?is it called a 312?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166 ✭✭hsan


    thanks small balls


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,632 ✭✭✭heinbloed


    I've worked myself now through 2 of these Philmac connectors, they aren't worth it.
    The brass expands and contracts much more than the plastic (installed in a pressurised hot water system), the Philmac female connector simply bursts. And leaks.
    Amateur's advice from the plumbing center's desk lead me into this hustle.


    PS

    If you come along a proper solution let us know.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,409 ✭✭✭sullzz


    heinbloed wrote: »
    I've worked myself now through 2 of these Philmac connectors, they aren't worth it.
    The brass expands and contracts much more than the plastic (installed in a pressurised hot water system), the Philmac female connector simply bursts. And leaks.
    Amateur's advice from the plumbing center's desk lead me into this hustle.


    PS

    If you come along a proper solution let us know.

    You mean you took advice from someone ??????! And it wasn't a heating engineer .... Shock horror :eek::eek::eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,262 ✭✭✭✭Joey the lips


    sullzz wrote: »
    You mean you took advice from someone ??????! And it wasn't a heating engineer .... Shock horror :eek::eek::eek:

    Please dont go there.

    OP you need from memory a 1,1/4" 310 with a reducer bush. ironically this may only be available from hevac as they usually are the ones who does this size.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,409 ✭✭✭sullzz


    Please dont go there..

    Sorry couldn't resist :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 981 ✭✭✭Stojkovic


    Please dont go there.

    OP you need from memory a 1,1/4" 310 with a reducer bush. ironically this may only be available from hevac as they usually are the ones who does this size.
    BSS in Dolphins Barn also.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166 ✭✭hsan


    thanks for the replies lads.ya i think ill go for the 1 1/4" 310 with the reducer for the copper.thanks again


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,632 ✭✭✭heinbloed


    @ the OP :
    thanks for the replies lads.ya i think ill go for the 1 1/4" 310 with the reducer for the copper.thanks again

    What load do you plan for this amateur connection -minimum and maximum pressure and -temperature, air permeability, hygene demands?

    Expected durabilty?

    Any legal restrictions you are planning to adhere to?

    Thanks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,019 ✭✭✭anthonyos


    hsan get into fas they run evening courses in basic plumbing for beginners like yourself and they will give you a certificate of attendance as well that you can hang up in your barna shed


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 183 ✭✭anheneti


    heinbloed wrote: »
    I've worked myself now through 2 of these Philmac connectors, they aren't worth it.
    The brass expands and contracts much more than the plastic (installed in a pressurised hot water system), the Philmac female connector simply bursts. And leaks.
    Amateur's advice from the plumbing center's desk lead me into this hustle.


    PS

    If you come along a proper solution let us know.

    You took advice from a guy who works on a plumbing centres desk, the guys in my local providers always say "if they were plumbers they wouldn't be selling the stuff"
    More importantly you should have got a professional to do this for you because quite clearly you seem to lack the ability to join 2 pipes together, which is the very very basic know how in plumbing and heating. Plumbers (maybe heating engineers) had to be able to do this long before the internet was invented. So now that you have proved you don't have either knowledge or skill why don't you f..k off and leave us plumbers to give real advice.
    P.S If I get banned for this it will be worth so that genuine people who are seeking advice will realise you are talking through your hole.
    Yours
    Anheneti


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,262 ✭✭✭✭Joey the lips


    anthonyos wrote: »
    hsan get into fas they run evening courses in basic plumbing for beginners like yourself and they will give you a certificate of attendance as well that you can hang up in your barna shed

    This is uncalled for
    anheneti wrote: »
    You took advice from a guy who works on a plumbing centres desk, the guys in my local providers always say "if they were plumbers they wouldn't be selling the stuff"
    More importantly you should have got a professional to do this for you because quite clearly you seem to lack the ability to join 2 pipes together, which is the very very basic know how in plumbing and heating. Plumbers (maybe heating engineers) had to be able to do this long before the internet was invented. So now that you have proved you don't have either knowledge or skill why don't you f..k off and leave us plumbers to give real advice.
    P.S If I get banned for this it will be worth so that genuine people who are seeking advice will realise you are talking through your hole.
    Yours
    Anheneti

    You might be a good plumber but you really need to control your temper

    Yes you will be banned


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,262 ✭✭✭✭Joey the lips


    I never actually asked you. If your going to bury this under concrete the fitting will have to be wrapped in denso tape or something like that. If its behind the press it will be fine.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,283 ✭✭✭.243


    heinbloed wrote: »
    I've worked myself now through 2 of these Philmac connectors, they aren't worth it.
    The brass expands and contracts much more than the plastic (installed in a pressurised hot water system), the Philmac female connector simply bursts. And leaks.
    Amateur's advice from the plumbing center's desk lead me into this hustle.

    PS
    If you come along a proper solution let us know.
    third_party_facepalm.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166 ✭✭hsan


    I never actually asked you. If your going to bury this under concrete the fitting will have to be wrapped in denso tape or something like that. If its behind the press it will be fine.

    no joey its inside in a hot press.its coming from a pump in the garage and its pressurising all the hots and colds in the house.i was only looking for yere views on the most reliable fitting to use.cheers


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,262 ✭✭✭✭Joey the lips


    Questions answered thread closed. If the op disagrees PM me and i will reopen it.


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