Windy landings in Bilbao

opinion guy

Saw this report on BBC website and was amazed they were even trying to land in this:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-17863501

So aviators of boards, cast ye're expert eyes - should they be landing in that wind ?

A Dub in Glasgo

That looks dodgy to me although I am not a pilot or know the ins and outs of landing in those conditions. The passengers will be happy they did not divert and they landed safely although I assume the margin for error is tiny.

coylemj

They look like clenched teeth and buttocks landings!

Skuxx

Anyone notice how the second plane flies over the camera as an airbus, then lands as an md80, and the third plane flies over as an md80 but lands as an airbus??

Some dodgy editing there!!

tippilot

There is absolutely no way that video is playing at normal speed. It's been speeded up. Even the van looks wrong. The only part playing at normal speed is the overhead shots. Why I don't know, it would have been dramatic enough anyway.

I've been to Bilbao and it's got plenty of terrain in the vicinty that would produce some interesting conditions in high wind.

A Dub in Glasgo

alan1990 wrote: »

Anyone notice how the second plane flies over the camera as an airbus, then lands as an md80, and the third plane flies over as an md80 but lands as an airbus??

Some dodgy editing there!!

I never even noticed that first time round

opinion guy

tippilot wrote: »

There is absolutely no way that video is playing at normal speed. It's been speeded up. Even the van looks wrong. The only part playing at normal speed is the overhead shots. Why I don't know, it would have been dramatic enough anyway.

I've been to Bilbao and it's got plenty of terrain in the vicinty that would produce some interesting conditions in high wind.

The van looks normal to me ? As do the bushes blowing.

tippilot

opinion guy wrote: »

The van looks normal to me ? As do the bushes blowing.

Two things to bear in mind.

1. It's an airport road not a normal road and much lower speed limits apply.

2. That van would have been holding short of the undershoot waiting for the plane to pass. It got moving rather quickly wouldn't you say.

cocoshovel

Cant really tell myself. However, the strobe lights do seem to be flashing a bit fast.

tippilot

cocoshovel wrote: »

Cant really tell myself. However, the strobe lights do seem to be flashing a bit fast.

Well spotted.

For definitive proof have a look at the take off in this version.(disregard the commentary)

johnc24

opinion guy wrote: »

Saw this report on BBC website and was amazed they were even trying to land in this:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-17863501

So aviators of boards, cast ye're expert eyes - should they be landing in that wind ?

Depends on the runway heading and wind angle relative to the runway as to whether they should have landed or not (legally continued the approach actually). The wind looks pretty severe but if it's say 10-25 degrees (again depending on speed ) off then the crosswind component is not as bad and the wind speed limits are a little more flexible.


Fair play to the pilots in any case. In particular the go around crew. No one ever got killed from a go around!

highlydebased

That is sped up for sure

globemaster1986

To answer the OP's question, the pilots of those aircraft decide at the time. They would obtain the ATIS (weather report, inc. windspeed and direction) of the airport they are arriving into and work out the crosswind components accordingly. Airbus A320 and Boeing 737 aircraft have crosswind limits of approx 35 knots (varies with model, winglets fitted or not etc etc).

The winds must have been within allowable limits for the pilots to attempt a landing, but the go around is always the best option if you are not sure you can land safely or you get blown way off the runway centreline

opinion guy

You guys know best.

Must say - bad form of the BBC or whoever speeding up the footage to add drama:mad:

Blue Punto

Much better footage here
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pclancy

Cool video. I think we get plenty of fun landings in Wellington too

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=78397601#post78397601

Check out the first 737 practically falling onto the runway

Bearcat

i think Bilbao is the most lethal airport for savage windshear I have ever been in and Ive seen em all. You get vicious shear from 6 miles in with the undulating terrain and mountains spewing up all types of currents. Runway doesnt help as it is humped....it greets you pretty quick too with the tendancy to flare early so you got to keep driving it in. Circle to land is a no no. If you cant get in on the frst attempt Id bugger off elsewhere.

Iberia had a fatal crash there in a 727 years ago....cfit.

opinion guy

pclancy wrote: »

Cool video. I think we get plenty of fun landings in Wellington too

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=78397601#post78397601

Check out the first 737 practically falling onto the runway

Is this some in-joke I don't get or just a broken link ?

andy_g

Blue Punto.

Kate Midleton is not avaition related unless she now has wings
Please stay on topic.

tippilot

opinion guy wrote: »

Is this some in-joke I don't get or just a broken link ?

This may be what he means:

pclancy

Oops link should have been this:
http://www.stuff.co.nz/travel/videos/6816396/Dramatic-Wellington-airport-landings