why i didn't 2 year NCT?

Mandzhalas

hi everyone
my car passed nct test today
originally it was due for 01/06/2012,but i rescheduled to today,as i allowed to take test 3 months before date.but i got certificate only to 01/06/2013

My car is 02 reg so,at the moment it is 9 years old(,not 10 .so i think it qualifies for 2 year nct certificate
from nct website: "The NCT due date is calculated by reference to the date of first registration of the car with tests due every two years for cars younger than 10 years"

stats from my log book
Date of first registration : 27/06/2002
Date of registration in Irl. :19/06/2002

Jimdagym

You took the 10 year anniversary NCT a couple of months early. You don't get an extra years NCT as reward. Your car is 10 years old so one year NCT is correct.

CiniO

1 years NCT is for cars presented for their 10th first registration anniversary NCT (and any subsequent one)
Your car was one of those cases.

Marcusm

How was its first registration in Ireland prior to its first registration?

sean1141

Mandzhalas wrote: »

Date of first registration : 27/06/2002
Date of registration in Irl. :19/06/2002

Marcusm wrote: »

How was its first registration in Ireland prior to its first registration?

It was registered in Ireland on the 19th. As far as I know this would be the day the dealer registered it for the very first time, most likely after the first owner paid for it/aggred the sale and the 27th is when they took ownership

Paddy001

sean1141 wrote: »

It was registered in Ireland on the 19th. As far as I know this would be the day the dealer registered it for the very first time, most likely after the first owner paid for it/aggred the sale and the 27th is when they took ownership

27th is when it was first taxed... It normally says date of first licencing

maidhc

I think it is an incorrect interpretation of the law. I have written to the Dept of Transport on this for an (ahem) client, and got a hairbrained answer.

I think the OPs car should have got two years, but they won't give it.

This is the relevant law, and even as a solicitor I find it mindbending to read.
http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/2011/en/si/0623.html

“The test due dates for a vehicle mentioned in paragraph (1) are as follows—


(a) for a vehicle coming within paragraph (1)(a) or (c), the anniversary dates mentioned in the relevant subparagraph and—


(i) from the tenth anniversary of first registration of the vehicle, each subsequent anniversary of those dates, or


(ii) where clause (i) does not apply, each subsequent biennial of those dates,

Del2005

maidhc wrote: »

I think it is an incorrect interpretation of the law. I have written to the Dept of Transport on this for an (ahem) client, and got a hairbrained answer.

I think the OPs car should have got two years, but they won't give it.

This is the relevant law, and even as a solicitor I find it mindbending to read.
http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/2011/en/si/0623.html

The NCT is done purely on registration date. So if you get it in early you get an extra 3 months ahead not after. I got my 04 done in Dec for a Jan reg date, my NCT was valid from Dec 2012 to Jan 2014. If you send in a 10year+ the NCT is only valid earlier than due not later.

This is so that there's no benefit from not doing it on time and a penalty for leaving it late, unless you're willing to drive for several years in an illegal car. Which the Gardaí really should be clamping down on heavily now they have ANPR.

maidhc

Del2005 wrote: »

The NCT is done purely on registration date. So if you get it in early you get an extra 3 months ahead not after. I got my 04 done in Dec for a Jan reg date, my NCT was valid from Dec 2012 to Jan 2014. If you send in a 10year+ the NCT is only valid earlier than due not later.

This is so that there's no benefit from not doing it on time and a penalty for leaving it late, unless you're willing to drive for several years in an illegal car. Which the Gardaí really should be clamping down on heavily now they have ANPR.

But what about there the NCT is DUE before the 10th anniversary of the registration. It was in the case of the OP.

wonski

Mandzhalas wrote: »

hi everyone
my car passed nct test today
originally it was due for 01/06/2012,but i rescheduled to today,as i allowed to take test 3 months before date.but i got certificate only to 01/06/2013

My car is 02 reg so,at the moment it is 9 years old(,not 10 .so i think it qualifies for 2 year nct certificate
from nct website: "The NCT due date is calculated by reference to the date of first registration of the car with tests due every two years for cars younger than 10 years"

stats from my log book
Date of first registration : 27/06/2002
Date of registration in Irl. :19/06/2002

Never seen a car where nct due date was 3 weeks ahead of registration date, they usually match. Can't think of any reason this happened. Any car of that age would be tested for one year only, but your case seems to be different...

Del2005

maidhc wrote: »

But what about there the NCT is DUE before the 10th anniversary of the registration. It was in the case of the OP.

The car was NCT'd in April for a June expiration, that's 10 years old.

If your basing it on the 2 week difference between the 16/6 and 27/6 it's still 3 months before the anniversary of it's first registration. If as you're assuming that the OP should have gotten 2 years if they tested between 16/3/12 and 26/3/12 you'd be wrong again as they'd have gotten an NCT valid till 2012.

From the NCT site

Annual testing is now a legal requirement for vehicles that present for their 10th anniversary test and each subsequent test. You can test your vehicle up to 90 days in advance of the anniversary of your registration date. Please note that testing your vehicle within the 90 day period will not alter the date on which your vehicle falls due for the NCT each year nor will it extend the NCT certificate expiry date.

CiniO

wonski wrote: »

Never seen a car where nct due date was 3 weeks ahead of registration date, they usually match. Can't think of any reason this happened. Any car of that age would be tested for one year only, but your case seems to be different...

I never noticed that OP's car was due NCT few weeks before it's 10th registration anniversary.
I don't know what's the reason for it, but in that case, it should get 2 years NCT in accordance with legislation quoted by maidhc, as in that case nct due date is before 10th first registration anniversary, and according to legislation only vehicles with NCT due date on and after 10th first registration anniversary get yearly NCT·

CiniO

Del2005 wrote: »

The car was NCT'd in April for a June expiration, that's 10 years old.

If your basing it on the 2 week difference between the 16/6 and 27/6 it's still 3 months before the anniversary of it's first registration. If as you're assuming that the OP should have gotten 2 years if they tested between 16/3/12 and 26/3/12 you'd be wrong again as they'd have gotten an NCT valid till 2012.

From the NCT site

One thing you are wrong about. It's completely irrelevant when you do your test. It's only due date date decides if you can get NCT for year or two.
If due date is on the 10th anniversary of first registration or later - you get yearly NCT. If due date is before 10th anniversary of first registration you get 2 years NCT.
That's what the Law states about it.

maidhc

wonski wrote: »

Never seen a car where nct due date was 3 weeks ahead of registration date, they usually match. Can't think of any reason this happened. Any car of that age would be tested for one year only, but your case seems to be different...

My car was the same. NCT due 2 weeks before the car was 10 years old.

CiniO

maidhc wrote: »

My car was the same. NCT due 2 weeks before the car was 10 years old.

Did you get 1 or 2 years nct?

maidhc

CiniO wrote: »

Did you get 1 or 2 years nct?

Only 1

CiniO

maidhc wrote: »

Only 1

You can always go to court, and considering Law is with you, you are most likely to win the case.

Jimdagym

CiniO wrote: »

You can always go to court, and considering Law is with you, you are most likely to win the case.

You should really add IMO to the end of sentences like that CiniO.

CiniO

Jimdagym wrote: »

You should really add IMO to the end of sentences like that CiniO.

But what should be "IMO"?

1. I said he can go to court - it's a fact.
2. I said Law is with him - it's a fact.
3. I said he is most likely to win the case - considering p.2 it's a fact.

I can't see a need for adding IMO or IMHO :cool:

Jimdagym

CiniO wrote: »

But what should be "IMO"?

1. I said he can go to court - it's a fact.
2. I said Law is with him - it's a fact.
3. I said he is most likely to win the case - considering p.2 it's a fact.

I can't see a need for adding IMO or IMHO :cool:

It should be IMO because you are giving your interpratation of the law.
I really dont see how "most likely" is now a factual term either.

unkel

CiniO wrote: »

You can always go to court

for €55 LOL