Make a da Money.

PaulBrewer

http://sentric.wordpress.com/2011/02/21/an-idiot’s-guide-for-emerging-artists-to-making-money-from-your-music-publishing-rights/?utm_source=Dolphin+Newsletter&utm_campaign=e38b3c8fcd-Sentric_Music4_18_2012&utm_medium=email

Here's an interesting article about making a few bob out of music.

£70+ for a BBC Radio 2 play ? Not Shabby.

krd

PaulBrewer wrote: »

£70+ for a BBC Radio 2 play ? Not Shabby.

How many plays would it take to cover the cost of production?

I know that the airplays on BBC Wales were enough for several Welsh language musicians to make a full time living out of recording Welsh language songs.

I sat down one time and worked out the royalties for a radio hit on American radio - where you get heavy rotation for a few weeks. It runs into hundreds of thousands in royalties. In effect since Clearchannel shows are syndicated, it can work out at a few hundred dollars a play. If they play your song to death that's a few hundred plays. Do dah math, as they say.

I think money is a far more noble motivator, than the desire to be famous. And the fact everyone loves money, even if they do not love you.

PaulBrewer

I remember reading in Music Week years ago that Natalie Imbruglia was the most played song on 660 (if memory serves) Top European stations.

Say 4 times a day so that's 2640 plays a day at , lets round it up to 50 Euro a play ....

krd

PaulBrewer wrote: »

I remember reading in Music Week years ago that Natalie Imbruglia was the most played song on 660 (if memory serves) Top European stations.

Say 4 times a day so that's 2640 plays a day at , lets round it up to 50 Euro a play ....

€132,000 a day. That's a lot of money.

PaulBrewer

and if you recall that song was all over the radio for months !

No wonder Jessie J is worth £ 5.5 million !

krd

There's a thing....In most countries.....but we don't have here.

That's producing music for airplay alone.

Albums are fine for certain kinds of music. But for a great deal, they're not. And the fact that these days, if an album is popular, 99 copies out of a hundred are going to be pirated. Adele can sell albums because people want an artefact. The album is sadly dead.

In Europe there's been this thing. Of studios producing music for radio. They get session musos to write and perform the music. Pick up two attractive young men, who've been working as prostitutes at the local train station (Milli and Vinnilli.) get them to front the recording, and presto. You have a business.

We don't do this in Ireland. As we are too far up our own arses.

The formula is simple. You see what's in the charts, you painstakingly learn how to rip it off. And then...Two absolutely crucial pieces. When you rip off, you need to be able to cover your ripping off to the point no one can automatically spot what you've ripped off (through in a bit of "originality" by ripping off an older piece of music no one has heard in a long time). And then you keep cracking at the recording until every fraction of every syllable is perfect. And you'll notice, when people try this in Ireland, for whatever reason, they just don't work hard enough at it - there's something about the end product that just doesn't sound right. Like Bressie's lump of whatever it was. They really threw the kitchen sink at it. And that's the same thing about Lana Del Ray's earlier stuff - when she was Lizzie Grant. The production is there, but there's the hard to put your finger on stuff that just isn't right. And the kitchen sink has been thrown at it.

Jessie J's big hit was essentially a black eyed peas rip off - they'd probably ripped the idea off someone else. But why it succeed, was simply it was a really good rip off.

You get the feeling though with Ireland. That next to nobody sits down and says, let's make a radio hit. If you made a good enough record, people like Phanthom would take your hand off for it. People should not be bothering to write and record albums. They should pick two or three songs...work on them... pick one...work on it, if it doesn't work, back to the drawing board. Instead of writing really mediocre albums no one really wants to listen to.

People are wasting their time. I've clocked up something like a total of 5,000 plays for my amateur recordings (and clueless) productions between Youtube and Soundcloud. That's without spamming. And I wouldn't rate the stuff of being of a grade I'd have the nerve to charge anyone for. Bands spend thousands recording "albums" and they can't get anyone to listen to them. I look at Irish bands, who've put a lot of money, and effort into making things, and they can only get a few hundred plays on Youtube. And that's probably family and friends. Or the drummer going around to Internet cafes and playing the thin on all the machines.

If I was to record something where money was involved. I would aim to get something produced - not just to the quality - but something produced, that I know for definite would get some kind of play. Not just record and keep your fingers crossed.