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Advanced training in dublin

  • 27-04-2012 11:26am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 901 ✭✭✭


    Hi,

    I'm thinking of going on an advanced training course. Can anyone recommend a place for this around dublin?

    What would be involved and covered by these courses?
    Is there certification if completed?
    Does this effect insurance premiums?

    Many thanks
    P


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,236 ✭✭✭Idleater


    I did my RoSPA training with MSA a good few years ago now. At the time the cost of the lessons was offset by the reduction in premium over the 9 months remaining.
    Since then I have been using Aidan from bike2bike for my retest lessons.
    I went for the RoSPA instead of the ism because it's accepted in most countries and the ism is Ireland only iirc. Both will get you the same reduction in insurance (33% for silver and gold RoSPA) but the RpSPA requires a retest every 3 years (free if you are a member).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 353 ✭✭ogriofa


    I went to Dave Lyons.

    Really nice guy, no rubbish and explains everything really well. Very encouraging.
    http://www.motorbiketraining.net/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 901 ✭✭✭paulieeye


    Cool, I'll give this Dave Lyons chap a call.

    Are these type of courses usually only 1 day things?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 353 ✭✭ogriofa


    Good man!
    I wanted to do two 3 hours sessions, but Dave suggested that it would be better to really get into it, really soak it up for 1 day. I thought that I'd be wrecked after a couple of hours but the day flew.

    3 hours session? by the time you meet, get an intro and get going, do the work and then wind down your 3 hours will become a bit "bitty".

    It'll be a full on day. I'm not messing, get a good nights sleep and eat a good breakfast. You'll be concentrating hard for most of it. These guys are hardcore riders.

    I know you're already convinced, just to say that my insurance is still being discounted every year since and I see stuff on the road that I never saw before. Best 300 quid I've ever spent. Hands down.

    Good luck chief


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,545 ✭✭✭Green_Martian


    Ya can't go wrong with Dave Lyons, he will teach you loads of stuff, passed my test 1st time with no errors thanks to him


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,515 ✭✭✭RosieJoe


    You could start by doing the Garda Bikesafe course. This is free and can be used to determine areas in which to improve.

    I did this and then went on to do some advanced training with Dave Lyons. I needed to improve my cornering speed/gear selection and spent most of the day on this.

    Lessons were great as they gave me a lot more confidence on the bike, greater hazard awareness and, of course, better cornering skills.
    paulieeye wrote: »
    Hi,

    I'm thinking of going on an advanced training course. Can anyone recommend a place for this around dublin?

    What would be involved and covered by these courses?
    Samples of items in the course would be lane positioning, hazard awareness, cornering, gear/speed work, vanishing point awareness. But there is a lot more involved that the tester can use depending on your abilities
    Is there certification if completed?
    You get graded based on your performance and you get a certifcate of this for insurance reasons
    Does this effect insurance premiums?
    Depends on the Grade achieved, better grade will give you bigger discounts

    Many thanks
    P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 901 ✭✭✭paulieeye


    RosieJoe wrote: »
    You could start by doing the Garda Bikesafe course. This is free and can be used to determine areas in which to improve.

    I did this and then went on to do some advanced training with Dave Lyons. I needed to improve my cornering speed/gear selection and spent most of the day on this.

    Lessons were great as they gave me a lot more confidence on the bike, greater hazard awareness and, of course, better cornering skills.

    Sounds like a great idea..never even heard of this garda course!

    Thanks!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,515 ✭✭✭RosieJoe


    paulieeye wrote: »
    Sounds like a great idea..never even heard of this garda course!

    Thanks!

    Here's the link for it

    Application form and email address to send it to is on the page.

    It's split into two parts. The first is a 45 minute session in a room going through statistics and causes of accidents. Second part is a spin out and about with your own Garda escort ;). Then back to Dublin Castle where you are told what you did well/wrong.

    It's a funny set up too as you get evaluated but you cannot pass or fail, but if you do well you get a certificate. This can give you a discount with Adelaide insurance, but only Adelaide insurance.


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 12,781 Mod ✭✭✭✭Zascar


    I've heard nothing but good things about Dave Lyons, but I used Tony aka Rubadub from biker.ie - I did my quinn/axa Grade 2 as I needed it to get insured on the bike I wanted when I was still on a provisional. He got me through the test as well 1st time. All the training has really stood to me. He's on 0866494718 if you need his number.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 183 ✭✭Pipz


    Just to give you a few options, I recently did my IBT with Peter Bookey and I can't recommend him enough. Very professional and I feel like I really learnt a lot during it. My brother also did his lessons with Peter and he passed his full test with no marks on it first time. He also does the advanced rider lessons.

    If you want you can ask him to do the insurance evaluations with you as well, and depending on the grade you get it will offer you a discount with some of the insurance companies.

    His number is 0861739654.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,395 ✭✭✭✭mikemac1


    Another recommendation for Dave Lyons

    Did fifteen hours with him as a beginner and passed my test

    I know you're doing the advanced course which is different but I'll still recommend him


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,674 ✭✭✭Faith+1


    mikemac1 wrote: »
    Another recommendation for Dave Lyons

    Did fifteen hours with him as a beginner and passed my test

    I know you're doing the advanced course which is different but I'll still recommend him

    +1 Excellent instructor


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,012 ✭✭✭✭Cuddlesworth


    +1 for Dave. Purely as a instructor he has the exact qualities needed to make you learn.


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