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Nankang tyres for Type R?

  • 26-04-2012 3:13pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,540 ✭✭✭✭


    Hi folks,
    I have an FN2 08 Type R, with Yokohama tyres on it at present, 225/35/ZR19 (low profiles).
    Apparently, they have stopped making those and a retailed recommended Nankang, as they were "just as good".
    Can anyone confirm this, or propose a more appropriate replacement for the Yokohamas?
    Many thanks.


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 998 ✭✭✭Chriscl1


    http://www.boards.ie/search/?q=nankangs

    i would never use nankangs myself.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,865 ✭✭✭✭MuppetCheck


    They are referred to as ditch finders. Now that is a generalisation but for the most part at least tyres from that maker are not very good. Some may well be decent but the general consensus is they are not.

    On a powerful car I would spend money on good quality tyres.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,540 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    They are referred to as ditch finders. Now that is a generalisation but for the most part at least tyres from that maker are not very good. Some may well be decent but the general consensus is they are not.

    On a powerful car I would spend money on good quality tyres.


    Any recommendations?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,401 ✭✭✭Nonoperational


    It's all down to how much you'll spend. Goodyear Eagle F1, Michelin Pilot Sport, Potenza s001, Conti SportContact... The premium tyres of the top brands are all excellent. You'll pay a fortune in 19s though. Maybe something like Falcon would be a bit cheaper. They do a good tyre too. FK452 I think it is.
    The newer Nankangs aren't too bad either. Get the model and google it and see what comes up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 170 ✭✭db330


    Most people don't like them cause their name, but i had a set and they are fine, performed just as well as previous tyres i've tried.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,686 ✭✭✭✭Zubeneschamali


    db330 wrote: »
    Most people don't like them cause their name,

    I think it's more to do with all the crap reviews and rubbish stopping distances in tests.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 521 ✭✭✭username?!


    Look into Kumhos very good tyres for the price.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,929 ✭✭✭✭ShadowHearth


    Toyo T1R are great, won't take your piggy bank as hostage too.

    I would not touch nankang stuff. My friend crashed his car with those during the rain.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 170 ✭✭db330


    what tests are these??

    in the recent autobid test

    nankang came 22 out of 50, beating yokohamas and a few other big names.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 170 ✭✭db330


    sorry 21st not 22nd


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,396 ✭✭✭Tefral


    I have used Goodyear Eagle F1's and Toyo Proxies T1-R on my type R..

    Never had a bother, athough the Eagle F1-s i found were better in the wet!

    Good prices on them from www.camskill.co.uk


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 916 ✭✭✭Joe 90


    I'm using Toyo T1Rs on the Exige at the moment but after a quick google they look to be in the region of £180 sterling apiece. I'm using the Toyo instead of Neo Advans for the better wet road behaviour.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,344 ✭✭✭gollywog


    I had nangkang ns-2000 on my car a few weeks ago, got a pretty bad slide going around a roundabout at normal enough speed, only mildy wet drizzly weather. But thats the only issue i had in fairness


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,686 ✭✭✭✭Zubeneschamali


    db330 wrote: »
    in the recent autobid test
    nankang came 22 out of 50, beating yokohamas and a few other big names.

    Yes, only 10% longer braking distance than the best brand.

    Also from autobild:

    2011's all-season test put nankang 9th of 10:Positive: Low rolling resistance. Negative: Lack of grip in the wet, poor wet braking, strong understeer, poor handling, bad aquaplaning result, especially in curved sections.

    2011's winter test, 7th of 8: Overall: Cheap for a reason. While better than a summer tyre in the snow, the gains do not out weigh the draw backs in the wet and dry

    etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,396 ✭✭✭Tefral


    Yes, only 10% longer braking distance than the best brand.

    Also from autobild:

    2011's all-season test put nankang 9th of 10:Positive: Low rolling resistance. Negative: Lack of grip in the wet, poor wet braking, strong understeer, poor handling, bad aquaplaning result, especially in curved sections.

    2011's winter test, 7th of 8: Overall: Cheap for a reason. While better than a summer tyre in the snow, the gains do not out weigh the draw backs in the wet and dry

    etc.

    You dont want to be driving around in Ireland on a tyre that isnt great in the wet... seeing as we only have one weather system.. cloudy rain


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,929 ✭✭✭✭ShadowHearth


    gollywog wrote: »
    I had nangkang ns-2000 on my car a few weeks ago, got a pretty bad slide going around a roundabout at normal enough speed, only mildy wet drizzly weather. But thats the only issue i had in fairness
    I think it is not "only", but " major " issue you got there.

    One of The most important when you buy tyres is how it performs on wet road m8.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,865 ✭✭✭✭MuppetCheck


    everlast75 wrote: »
    Any recommendations?

    Michellin Pilot Sport 3's.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,237 ✭✭✭✭djimi


    For about 20-30 more per tire you will get something like a Kumho or a Falken which would be a much better tire. I recently had to get two tires for my Integra and the options I had were Nankang for 90 or Kumho for 115. I got the Kumhos and they are excellent.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 125 ✭✭Bing_IRL


    Vredestein ultrac sessanta - Great value for money. They wear a little quicker than the premiums but much cheaper for the same grip.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 916 ✭✭✭Joe 90


    Bing_IRL wrote: »
    Vredestein ultrac sessanta - Great value for money. They wear a little quicker than the premiums but much cheaper for the same grip.
    I'd be inclined to think that a tyre that wears faster might grip better. I woule always tend to stay away from tires that people boast getting a high mileage from. Grip is the most important single thing in a tyre, forget mileage, forget fuel economy.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,017 ✭✭✭lomb


    Bing_IRL wrote: »
    Vredestein ultrac sessanta

    Said to be very dissappointing in a test I saw coming near last.



    I swapped out front Nankangs and rear Sunitrac for 4x Uniroyal(Conti) Rainsports on a TT, and funny enough the car doesnt handle as positive by a small margin. Some say the Rainsports have soft floaty walls. Grip in the wet and dry was very safe on Chinese tyre(maybe the quattro system though), although the Rainsports being directional tyres handle flooded roads incredibly safely, its as if the car is running on dry roads.
    Im far more worried about a sudden blowout leading me to somekind of a headon fatality and therefore I wont drive a car on Chinese tyres and that includes Nankang.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,593 ✭✭✭tossy


    db330 wrote: »
    Most people don't like them cause their name, but i had a set and they are fine, performed just as well as previous tyres i've tried.

    A statement like that is pretty much useless unless you tell us the previous tyres you are measuring them against.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 125 ✭✭Bing_IRL


    lomb wrote: »
    Said to be very dissappointing in a test I saw coming near last.

    I put a set on an A4 after the Conti Sport Contact 3 wore out. Couldn't justify the price of the contis so went with the Vredsteins. All I can say is that I ordered 2 more last night and wouldn't consider going back.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,344 ✭✭✭gollywog


    I think it is not "only", but " major " issue you got there.

    One of The most important when you buy tyres is how it performs on wet road m8.

    Ya your totally right, i didnt get my point across properly, i just meant up until that they seemed fine. I have vredestein ultrac sessantas on now and they are alot smoother and quieter. Havent got them long enough to comment on anything else though, i doubt there broken in yet


  • Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,630 ✭✭✭✭antodeco


    Pirelli P2000, Eagle F1 or Toyo Proxies are all excellent. Ive had them all. They do wear very quick though


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,340 ✭✭✭mullingar


    So, you looking for premium tyres for Nankang money?

    Continental/Michelin/Dunlop part-worns are the way, 1/4 the price with at least half the life left on them.The only draw back is that you have to change your tyres twice as much as new, but at a quarter the price, its a bargain.

    I would always always trust these premium part-worns than any cheap ditch-finders.

    BUT, you will have difficulty finding 225/35/ZR19's!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,737 ✭✭✭MidlandsM


    Toyo T1R are great, won't take your piggy bank as hostage too.

    I would not touch nankang stuff. My friend crashed his car with those during the rain.


    Maybe he was a shyte driver? :D


  • Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators Posts: 11,183 Mod ✭✭✭✭MarkR


    How about some hankooks?

    Factor in local fitting and tyre disposal.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,648 ✭✭✭knifey_spoonie


    Id recommend Toyo t1r's. I've had them on my last two cars and found them very good. They are a progressive tyre, they tend to give you lots of notice before they let go. They do tend to ware quite quickly, I've had mine on for about 8500km and I'll be changing them before 10000km. They do wear quite quickly, but there been a couple of track days in that mileage.

    I've also heard good things about yokohama prada, also look at federal 595rsr


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,106 ✭✭✭✭TestTransmission


    Id recommend Toyo t1r's. I've had them on my last two cars and found them very good.

    Currently have them on the s2000, find them great.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 410 ✭✭Kevvv


    Have T1R's on my Mivec at the minute and haven't got a bad thing to say about them. A lot of people don't think their amazing in the wet but I'v yet to find any problems. Very well priced also.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,828 ✭✭✭stimpson


    +1 for T1Rs. Have them on the CR-X. They were a bit slidey in the rain today, but they have 12,000km on them and the fronts are well worn. They don't last but my last set were €45 a corner for 15"s so it's no big deal. They have a fat sidewall which are great for protecting your rims from kerbs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,235 ✭✭✭lau1247


    Bing_IRL wrote: »
    I put a set on an A4 after the Conti Sport Contact 3 wore out. Couldn't justify the price of the contis so went with the Vredsteins. All I can say is that I ordered 2 more last night and wouldn't consider going back.

    what kind of price are you getting for the vredsteins? i'm thinking of getting four for my A4 also..

    i have michelin primacy hp currently, fantastic grip but they wear very quick so looking for a change

    West Dublin, ☀️ 7.83kWp ⚡5.66 kWp South West, ⚡2.18 kWp North East



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,095 ✭✭✭✭omb0wyn5ehpij9


    OP, what tyres do you have now?
    I also have an 08 FN2, I have Potenza's on my car and find them excellent. However, when the time comes to get new tyres, I can't see myself forking out for 4 of them, last time I have a quick look, it was around €900 for 4!
    Are you on civinfo.com? It's an owners forum, mainly based in England (FN2 is very, very popular over there). So there is plenty of info on tyres there. My next set will Toyo Proxies T1R's, I had them on my Integra and found them excellent. They have also got good reviews on FN2's. They seem to be the best bang for your buck.
    Oh, and i'm in the middle of trying to organise a FN2 owners meet for the start of June, drop me a pm if you are interested :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,540 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    djimi wrote: »
    For about 20-30 more per tire you will get something like a Kumho or a Falken which would be a much better tire. I recently had to get two tires for my Integra and the options I had were Nankang for 90 or Kumho for 115. I got the Kumhos and they are excellent.

    Well, the Nankang for my car is €165 per tire :(
    BDJW wrote: »
    OP, what tyres do you have now?
    I also have an 08 FN2, I have Potenza's on my car and find them excellent. However, when the time comes to get new tyres, I can't see myself forking out for 4 of them, last time I have a quick look, it was around €900 for 4!
    Are you on civinfo.com? It's an owners forum, mainly based in England (FN2 is very, very popular over there). So there is plenty of info on tyres there. My next set will Toyo Proxies T1R's, I had them on my Integra and found them excellent. They have also got good reviews on FN2's. They seem to be the best bang for your buck.
    Oh, and i'm in the middle of trying to organise a FN2 owners meet for the start of June, drop me a pm if you are interested :)

    I have yokohamas, had them since I picked the car up 3 years ago (I drive sensibly ;)) and they have done me since then. I've 3 cms on the back so was told they would need replacement soon, but not immediately.

    I was quoted prices from 165e upwards to 250e per tire... hence why I'm asking around :)

    I'm on civinfo alright, I just wanted the irish perspective seen as there can be a considerable price differential between there and here.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,095 ✭✭✭✭omb0wyn5ehpij9


    everlast75 wrote: »
    I'm on civinfo alright, I just wanted the irish perspective seen as there can be a considerable price differential between there and here.

    Driving a red FN2 is it? You're name better be on the list for the meet :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,540 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    **


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,540 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    BDJW wrote: »
    Driving a red FN2 is it? You're name better be on the list for the meet :p


    Nearly went for the Milano, but opted for Black in the end :P


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,095 ✭✭✭✭omb0wyn5ehpij9


    everlast75 wrote: »
    Nearly went for the Milano, but opted for Black in the end :P

    I would have preferred a black one, but at the price I got mine, I couldn't turn it down! And I also like the fact that there are very, very few silvers FN2 knocking around :cool:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 125 ✭✭Bing_IRL


    lau1247 wrote: »
    what kind of price are you getting for the vredsteins? i'm thinking of getting four for my A4 also..

    i have michelin primacy hp currently, fantastic grip but they wear very quick so looking for a change

    Getting them from Camskill here

    Got two delivered for under €250 instead of €400 here (that was with a VAT exemption though as well)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,540 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    Anyone have any experience of Avon ZZ3?

    The reviews here are quite good...

    http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Tyre/Avon/ZZ3.htm


    the price here is good too!!!

    http://camskill.co.uk/m55b0s468p8756/AVON_TYRES_CAR_AVON_ZZ3_AVON_ZZ_3_-_225_35R19_88Y_XL_TL_


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,930 ✭✭✭✭challengemaster


    The reviews there seem to be based on whatever users put in... never heard of them tbh

    Quick google says they're extrmely soft compound, you'll be gone through them in 10k ( miles) and they've got abysmal wet grip.

    Falken FK 452s are slightly more expensive but would be better.

    Uniroyal rainsport 2 are slightly more expensive again but a much better tyre suited to wet conditions
    http://camskill.co.uk/m55b0s24p60706/UNIROYAL_TYRES_CAR_UNIROYAL_RAINSPORT_2_UNIROYAL_RAIN_SPORT_2-_235_35R19_91W_XL_FR_TL_


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