It feels like I missed out - did I?

merc230ce

http://www.donedeal.ie/for-sale/bicycles/3285925

A 2005 Trek 1000SL asking €220. Seemed like a good deal but sold in a few hours. Did I miss out on a good deal? Was it good value?

maloner

Is it unreasonable to assume most bikes sold on line are stolen? Not saying this one is, but my natural assumption is that a second hand bike sold on the internet through a private seller is likely robbed.

If its a deal that's too good to be true, it probably is too good to be legit.

C3PO

maloner wrote: »

..... but my natural assumption is that a second hand bike sold on the internet through a private seller is likely robbed.

Is that not how most people sell their second hand bikes/kit?

Darkglasses

maloner wrote: »

Is it unreasonable to assume most bikes sold on line are stolen?

Yes I think so! I'd say most sellers are just using it because its probably the best way to advertise the bike? Pity about the prevalence of time-wasters on adverts.ie though.

RobFowl

maloner wrote: »

Is it unreasonable to assume most bikes sold on line are stolen? Not saying this one is, but my natural assumption is that a second hand bike sold on the internet through a private seller is likely robbed.

If its a deal that's too good to be true, it probably is too good to be legit.

Ive sold 5 bikes second hand online over the past 5 years and bought 3 as well (SH online) none of which were stolen.......

maloner

I guess I'm bitter at having had bikes niked in the recent past.

I'm sure there's many honest people out there, but I'm clouded by (hopefully) few knackers who are flogging lifted kit.

Lumen

maloner wrote: »

I'm sure there's many honest people out there, but I'm clouded by (hopefully) few knackers who are flogging lifted kit.

I don't think proper scumbags use the internet much for selling stuff. Why would you they risk the original owner finding their bike online?

To my knowledge, most routinely stolen bikes (from train stations, sheds and off the street) are sold by the thief (often a junkie type) for 50 quid, regardless of "value". The scummer who then sells them on does it in person.

maloner

Lumen wrote: »

I don't think proper scumbags use the internet much for selling stuff. Why would you they risk the original owner finding their bike online?

To my knowledge, most routinely stolen bikes (from train stations, sheds and off the street) are sold by the thief (often a junkie type) for 50 quid, regardless of "value". The scummer who then sells them on does it in person.

Luckly for my mate, one did. He found a picture of his bike online, and went up with cops to see it. Bike was indeed his and the cops hauled off the perp right there.

Lumen

maloner wrote: »

Luckly for my mate, one did. He found a picture of his bike online, and went up with cops to see it. Bike was indeed his and the cops hauled off the perp right there.

I guess the profit margin from online sales is much higher, which balances out the risk of discovery.

Dermot Illogical

Lumen wrote: »

I guess the profit margin from online sales is much higher, which balances out the risk of discovery.

Yep. 100%, as opposed to..eh..
:pac:

langdang

Depends on the wear and tear, sold a 2006 or 2007 one in the far shexier bright metallic orange for 300 for a quick sale. Maybe 3 years ago?

merc230ce

It did cross my mind that it might have been stolen, but I found an ad from back in February where the guy who had owned it from new was selling it (asking €200). Then when I queried the current seller about its history he said 'Not sure of year, I bought it 2nd hand 2 months ago with intentions of cycling but never used it.' so the story seemed to add up.

Anyway, I thought it seemed like a reasonable price for a decent starter road bike (assuming the condition was ok, obvs)

tomasrojo

Lumen wrote: »

To my knowledge, most routinely stolen bikes (from train stations, sheds and off the street) are sold by the thief (often a junkie type) for 50 quid, regardless of "value". The scummer who then sells them on does it in person.

I've been offered a bike by a demotic passerby in the street for 50. I suppose the fact I was wheeling a bike suggested I was in the market; perhaps he thought I would cycle home with my freshly stolen bike pulled beside me in parallel, the way the Dutch do.

nak

merc230ce wrote: »

http://www.donedeal.ie/for-sale/bicycles/3285925

A 2005 Trek 1000SL asking €220. Seemed like a good deal but sold in a few hours. Did I miss out on a good deal? Was it good value?

Good price, I'd say you'd be lucky to get more than that for it unless parts have been upgraded. I only paid £250 for mine new in 2005 (trade price) and I would happily give my frame to someone for free, haven't used it in a few years.

Dermot Illogical

nak wrote: »

Good price, I'd say you'd be lucky to get more than that for it unless parts have been upgraded. I only paid £250 for mine new in 2005 (trade price) and I would happily give my frame to someone for free, haven't used it in a few years.

Seriously? What size?

nak

RT66 wrote: »

Seriously? What size?

It's a 1000 WSD, size 51. http://www.trekbikes.com/us/en/bikes/2005/archive/1000wsd

Frame and fork in good nick. My friend's daughter has expressed interest, but if they don't take it I'll put it on the adverts section of forum (maybe a swap for some beer)

Tonyandthewhale

RT66 wrote: »

Seriously? What size?

Yeah, what size? And does 'someone' equate to random internet stranger?

merc230ce

Sounds a bit small for me (I'm 5'8") but I must to try to get to a bike store and check one that size out...

Captain Havoc

maloner wrote: »

Is it unreasonable to assume most bikes sold on line are stolen? Not saying this one is, but my natural assumption is that a second hand bike sold on the internet through a private seller is likely robbed.

If its a deal that's too good to be true, it probably is too good to be legit.

You've just said in a public forum that the seller of a specific online item, which can be traced is by your natural assumption is a thief or a fence. I don't know what to say or do. I'm gonna sit back and have a think about this, you can assume that this is a bad thing you've done.

ck101

I just sold a Trek 1000sl (in just out of the shop condition) for €425. Buyer was happy and I was in two minds whether to sell at that price.

I'm not a thief btw. 200ish is a great deal, these are good bikes.

merc230ce

ck101 wrote: »

I just sold a Trek 1000sl (in just out of the shop condition) for €425.

What year as a matter of interest?

My needs are pretty basic - a decent frame that fits me, and STIs of some description (always sounds rude!) I really don't care how old the bike is if it's been looked after - and my budget is severely limited. I don't qualify for the B2W scheme, and to be honest I'd hate to be one of those guys whose equipment outstrips their ability to a ridiculous extent. A decent starter road bike 5 years old, or maybe something a bit nicer that's 10 years old would suit me just fine. But they're actually quite hard to find in my (limited) experience! Has there been some bike scrappage scheme I wasn't aware of??

nak

merc230ce wrote: »

Sounds a bit small for me (I'm 5'8") but I must to try to get to a bike store and check one that size out...

Yeah, I'm 5'4" and it's women's specific geometry, so on the small side (I normally ride a 49/50 in boy's sizes).