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Use of 'cuid'

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  • 24-04-2012 10:23pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 147 ✭✭


    Hi I was wondering does the plural or single follow cuid.
    For example: would 'my ideas' be 'mo chuid smaointe' or 'mo chuid smaointí'?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,912 ✭✭✭pog it


    The genitive follows after cuid, be that the genitive singular or genitive plural, whichever applies. Also, a noun following on from cuid does not get a séimhiú, despite cuid being feminine.


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 30,860 Mod ✭✭✭✭Insect Overlord


    68508224 wrote: »
    Hi I was wondering does the plural or single follow cuid.
    For example: would 'my ideas' be 'mo chuid smaointe' or 'mo chuid smaointí'?

    "Cuid" requires the use of the Tuiseal Ginideach, so the form of the word that follows it will depend on which díochlaonadh/"declension" that noun is in.

    Edit: or, what pog it said. :pac:


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,286 ✭✭✭Gael


    68508224 wrote: »
    Hi I was wondering does the plural or single follow cuid.
    For example: would 'my ideas' be 'mo chuid smaointe' or 'mo chuid smaointí'?

    As already explained, it can be either, as long as they're in the genitive case.

    Note that 'smaointe' and 'smaointí' are both plural forms. The first is the plural of the word 'smaoineamh' that is accepted in the official written standard (An Caighdeán Oifigiúil). 'Smaointí' is a dialectic variation of that (Donegal I think, though I'm open to correction on that), but it's still a plural form of the noun.

    Another example of this would be 'áit' (place). The Official Standard plural of this is 'áiteanna', but the plural form in the Connemara dialect is 'áiteachaí'.


  • Registered Users Posts: 941 ✭✭✭An gal gréine


    Gael wrote: »

    Note that 'smaointe' and 'smaointí' are both plural forms. The first is the plural of the word 'smaoineamh' that is accepted in the official written standard (An Caighdeán Oifigiúil). 'Smaointí' is a dialectic variation of that (Donegal I think, though I'm open to correction on that), but it's still a plural form of the noun.

    Another example of this would be 'áit' (place). The Official Standard plural of this is 'áiteanna', but the plural form in the Connemara dialect is 'áiteachaí'.

    I've heard "smaointí" used but cant pin down where.
    'Smaointíocha' is whats said in Donegal with 'smaointiú' being the singular thought. The 'n' is often mute too.
    'Smaointe' is what my Munster and Western friends say and is the written standard.
    Also 'áiteacha' is said in Donegal for 'places'.


  • Registered Users Posts: 147 ✭✭68508224


    Go raibh míle maith agaibh. Ní raibh mé cinnte. Tá saibhreas eolas agam anois:)

    On a seperate note maybe someone could help me with the free-verb/saorbhriathar. In an essay I'm writing I want to say 'It puts pressure on them.'
    Which would be more correct? 'Cuireann sé brú orthu' or 'Cuirtear brú orthu'
    It's for Leaving Cert Irish so I suppose I'm asking in relation to An Caighdeán Oifigiúil.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,530 ✭✭✭gaiscioch


    Is there ever a situation where cuid maith rather than cuid mhaith would be correct?


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 30,860 Mod ✭✭✭✭Insect Overlord


    gaiscioch wrote: »
    Is there ever a situation where cuid maith rather than cuid mhaith would be correct?

    "Cuid" is a feminine noun, so the adjective should always take a séimhiú (in the Tuiseal ainmneach, cuspóireach and tabharthach), i.e. always "mhaith".


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