New Rent Allowance rates for Carlow is a Joke

SIX PACK

1st of all i'm going to say i didn't choose to be on the dole so don't label just so we're clear
This thread is for those of us (& anyone else who cares) who are unfortunate enough to find ourselves out of work & looking for rent allowance

In Our case Couple with 1 child or one-parent with 1 child
The new rates for Carlow is €550 Maximum.
Now where the hell are we meant to get somewhere Half decent that's not a S#it hole & is €550 or less per month . . ? Our landlord is refusing to lower our rent so don't know what to do

Here is link with NEW rates http://www.welfare.ie/en/schemes/supplementarywelfareallowance/pages/rentsupplement.aspx

patrickc

SIX PACK wrote: »

1st of all i'm going to say i didn't choose to be a dole bum so don't dare label just so we're clear
This thread is for those of us (& anyone else who cares) who are unfortunate enough to find ourselves out of work & looking for rent allowance

In Our case Couple with 1 child or one-parent with 1 child
The new rates for Carlow is €550 Maximum.
Now where the hell are we meant to get somewhere Half decent that's not a S#it hole & is €550 or less per month . . ? Our landlord is refusing to lower our rent so don't know what to do

Here is link with NEW rates http://www.welfare.ie/en/schemes/supplementarywelfareallowance/pages/rentsupplement.aspx

i know about this for months, as i kinda wrok in the area, for a single person it's €350 absolutely disgraceful.

Carlow now has the lowest rates for single people in Ireland.
i know of many complaints made to the department by welfare officers and their superiors, we all have a theory as to what happened but cannot say it on here.

I am finding that many landlords are lowering rent due to the imminent possibility of their property being empty.

are you in receipt of rent allowance for more than 18 months continuously, you may be entitled to the RAS scheme if so.

SIX PACK

Only Rent allowance since Sept 2011 when i lost my Job. I know the country is broke & they have to make savings where possible.
I think their is no future in this Country for many of us.
So its Dubai or Canada if the right opportunity arises.
I have to say Dubai looks more appealing warmer weather cheaper fuel etc

patrickc

SIX PACK wrote: »

Only Rent allowance since Sept 2011 when i lost my Job. I know the country is broke & they have to make savings where possible.
I think their is no future in this Country for many of us.
So its Dubai or Canada if the right opportunity arises.
I have to say Dubai looks more appealing warmer weather cheaper fuel etc

Its such a shame its come to that though for u and everyone alike

Andy!!

SIX PACK wrote: »

[SIZE="4"]1st of all i'm going to say i didn't choose to be a dole bum so don't dare label just so we're clear [/SIZE]
This thread is for those of us (& anyone else who cares) who are unfortunate enough to find ourselves out of work & looking for rent allowance :'(

In Our case Couple with 1 child or one-parent with 1 child
The new rates for Carlow is €550 Maximum.
Now where the hell are we meant to get somewhere Half decent that's not a S#it hole & is €550 or less per month . . ? Our landlord is refusing to lower our rent so don't know what to do

Here is link with NEW rates http://www.welfare.ie/en/schemes/supplementarywelfareallowance/pages/rentsupplement.aspx

Em this isn't low at all? It would be low in Dublin, but not in Carlow. Be grateful you get anything, social welfare in this country is far more generous than in other countries. Hop over to the UK and see how much you'd get there.

(posted by 'a dole bum')

Andy!!

double post

TaosHum

Andy!! wrote: »

Em this isn't low at all? It would be low in Dublin, but not in Carlow. Be grateful you get anything, social welfare in this country is far more generous than in other countries. Hop over to the UK and see how much you'd get there.

(posted by 'a dole bum')

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought social welfare rates were calculated based on what the EU regulators think is enough to get by in a certain country.

Therefore what you get in Ireland is no better than what you get anywhere else in the European Union because they are all determined on the same criteria.

I'm not at all certain on this though,I'm just going on what I was told by a local councilor.

Lord Derpington

Are you for real?

Suggesting that €550 per month in paid rent is too little, and patrickC complaining that €350 for a single person isn't enough.

Here is a link to daft, for places to rent in Carlow that's are minimum 2 bed, maximum bed priced below €550pm, and there are 35 properties.

Fair enough, you didn't choose to be on the dole, but suggesting that only having 35 properties to choose from and whining about it is absolutely ridiculous.

Genghiz Cohen

sinsin

SIX PACK wrote: »

1st of all i'm going to say i didn't choose to be on the dole so don't label just so we're clear
This thread is for those of us (& anyone else who cares) who are unfortunate enough to find ourselves out of work & looking for rent allowance

In Our case Couple with 1 child or one-parent with 1 child
The new rates for Carlow is €550 Maximum.
Now where the hell are we meant to get somewhere Half decent that's not a S#it hole & is €550 or less per month . . ? Our landlord is refusing to lower our rent so don't know what to do

Here is link with NEW rates http://www.welfare.ie/en/schemes/supplementarywelfareallowance/pages/rentsupplement.aspx

He will drop.
But if he is broke himself he may play Deperado and you may move.
There are many empty properties and the only way is down,
They have to let rents float.
They are broke.

godwin

If I was in the UK I would have a council house within 6 months , The average wait in Ireland is 5+ years. Which is ridiculous considering the amount of vacant properties in Ireland , Carlow having the highest proportion of vacant properties in Ireland.

Andy!! wrote: »

Hop over to the UK and see how much you'd get there.

golden lane

Andy!! wrote: »

Em this isn't low at all? It would be low in Dublin, but not in Carlow. Be grateful you get anything, social welfare in this country is far more generous than in other countries. Hop over to the UK and see how much you'd get there.

(posted by 'a dole bum')

2,000 thousand pounds a month....is not unusual in the uk....although there are plans afloat to lower that in a lot of places.....

the average is 700 pounds a month....

Kristopherus

godwin wrote: »

If I was in the UK I would have a council house within 6 months , The average wait in Ireland is 5+ years. Which is ridiculous considering the amount of vacant properties in Ireland , Carlow having the highest proportion of vacant properties in Ireland.

Council houses in the UK are few and far between. The vast majority are owned & run by Housing Associations(Trusts). And with Uk in recession again and bordering on it for the past 12 months, then the waiting period for new tenants is growing all the time.

golden lane

Kristopherus wrote: »

Council houses in the UK are few and far between. The vast majority are owned & run by Housing Associations(Trusts). And with Uk in recession again and bordering on it for the past 12 months, then the waiting period for new tenants is growing all the time.

housing trusts in the uk...are run along the line of council housing....they get the same government grants as the councils......if you have children, you are on avererage waiting about 6 months for social housing....that varies from area to area.....but you can rent a suitable house and you will get housing benifit to cover that amount, if you are not working....if you are you can get housing benifit depending on your earnings....

sinsin

godwin wrote: »

If I was in the UK I would have a council house within 6 months , The average wait in Ireland is 5+ years. Which is ridiculous considering the amount of vacant properties in Ireland , Carlow having the highest proportion of vacant properties in Ireland.

Unless empty properties are taken quickly the will be uninhabitable.There are Three estates that I know that have been looted and will be burnt out by September.
Carlow UDC will not provide another new house for the next 15 years,You need a miracle ,I wish you and yours the very best,but be prepared for some drastic cuts over the next five years.
A place with a good size garden rather than stuck in an apartment , a water butt and a hen coop with 3 birds.
You get the idea.

RealistSpy

It will only going lower as far as I can see it for the next 2- 3 years. Rent Allowance Supplement will be cut and the Dole will be cut. Best thing is to tighten your budget and apply for Rental Accommodation Scheme (RAS).

GL

sinsin

From memory there was a 7 year gap between Dereen Heights 1978? to Staplestown Road 1985 to John Sweeney Park late 1985?..Fr Byrne Park to Zilch for almost ten years.

This downturn is much worse,all money will be kept to pay the bureaucracy to collect taxes for the Banksters.

Many will revert to home agriculture as in the fifties and sixties to avoid the levys and to provide a little extra outside government tax extortion net.

GarIT

I think its plenty. You could easily find a place for that without even counting you have the dole and child benefit on top of that. At worst you might have to move somewhere you don't love but beggars cant be choosers.

RoverZT

SIX PACK wrote: »

1st of all i'm going to say i didn't choose to be on the dole so don't label just so we're clear
This thread is for those of us (& anyone else who cares) who are unfortunate enough to find ourselves out of work & looking for rent allowance

In Our case Couple with 1 child or one-parent with 1 child
The new rates for Carlow is €550 Maximum.
Now where the hell are we meant to get somewhere Half decent that's not a S#it hole & is €550 or less per month . . ? Our landlord is refusing to lower our rent so don't know what to do

Here is link with NEW rates http://www.welfare.ie/en/schemes/supplementarywelfareallowance/pages/rentsupplement.aspx

Poor you

There shouldn't even be rent allowance, dole and that's it

550 a month is plenty.

71 results on.

http://www.daft.ie

Fine house here 550

http://www.daft.ie/searchrental.daft?id=1183342

RoverZT

GarIT wrote: »

I think its plenty. You could easily find a place for that without even counting you have the dole and child benefit on top of that. At worst you might have to move somewhere you don't love but beggars cant be choosers.

It's a joke alright.

Dole, child benefit, rent allowance 550e and probably FIS as well and still complaining.

No wonder the ECB hates ous.

We want everything for nothing.

foggy_lad

RealistSpy wrote: »

It will only going lower as far as I can see it for the next 2- 3 years. Rent Allowance Supplement will be cut and the Dole will be cut. Best thing is to tighten your budget and apply for Rental Accommodation Scheme (RAS).

GL

from what i know about the Rental Accomodation Scheme it is not available to many of the people who are currently on rent supplement due to them being involved in anti social behavioiur or other criminal behaviour, the vetting is very strict with a Garda check being done. also the landlord can object to any candidate.

Bannasidhe

RoverZT wrote: »

It's a joke alright.

Dole, child benefit, rent allowance 550e and probably FIS as well and still complaining.

No wonder the ECB hates ous.

We want everything for nothing.

Maybe get your facts straight before pontificating - someone on the 'dole' can't get FIS.
Everyone with children - including Michael O Leary - get's child benefit.

GarIT

RoverZT wrote: »

It's a joke alright.

Dole, child benefit, rent allowance 550e and probably FIS as well and still complaining.

No wonder the ECB hates ous.

We want everything for nothing.

Don't forget fuel allowence :P

GarIT

Bannasidhe wrote: »

Maybe get your facts straight before pontificating - someone on the 'dole' can't get FIS.
Everyone with children - including Michael O Leary - get's child benefit.

Just because everyone gets it that doesn't mean you can't use it for your rent.

This isn't about who gets what. This is about if people can afford accommodation on the new rates and yes they can without much bother.

sinsin

The Old people used to call you Tuppence Half Penny Looking down on Tuppence.

I have not read posters names but can see Wage slaves two months from the ditch attacking another unfortunate one month from the ditch.

The hats are still being tipped furiously in the hope of a pat from your owners.
Grow a pair,

When your kid asks what did you do during the Great Bank War when Ireland escaped from the Rothschilds.What will your answer be?
I insulted and persecuted those worse off than me,but Mr Sutherland allowed me to use his private toilet.

Ask any FG member where was his grandfather in the War of Independence?
The answer is similar to this,"He used to empty Lord Opiums potty and after three years Lord Opium allowed him to put the contents in his pocket and bring it home.
And everyone of them says Lord Givemeyourdaughter was a decent man every Christmas He gave a half crown before he took anyones daughter.

That is what the landless FG supporters repeated for sixty years.and the hated their own kind.

People joined FG out of embarrassment of their useless collaborator families.

Don't make a show of your kids.

sinsin

Poor Seanie ,They let him out for an hour to attend the sons wedding in Ballymun community centre.

He has three years served in an eighty year sentence,

He is looking shook.

I suppose I should respect my betters and pretend I have amnesia like the rest of you.

sinsin

This master is so far above most of you mangy peasants that I will not tell you who he is.
No hat tipping here..all out boot licking expected.

This Lord of the Skies has been honoured by His Holy PAPLYness Benedidt the Buggerer LXXXX! and by Her most Majestic inbreds Elisabeth Queen of the sacred turds.
Just handover the money Paddy.

sinsin

And Remember if you meet a fellow Irishman in Distress.pretend that you are a British Royal Lackey ,insult ,torture and break him and then fire him and his useless bairns out in to the ditch.and laugh.

Do you feel better now?
Empty my commode Mick or I will make you eat it again..
Yes Lordbabyslaughter,Yes,

Captain Havoc

Sinsin, I don't know what you are trying to say but you can stop saying it. You're posts don't make sense and are not contributing to the discussion. Thanks

Andy!!

Captain Havoc wrote: »

Sinsin, I don't know what you are trying to say but you can stop saying it. You're posts don't make sense and are not contributing to the discussion. Thanks

That's putting it mildly. Why not remove the posts? They read like the ramblings of a mental case.

Captain Havoc

Andy!! wrote: »

That's putting it mildly. Why not remove the posts? They read like the ramblings of a mental case.

We've been advised not to delete or edit posts unless necessary as to show people what behavior is not acceptable.

sinsin

Andy!! wrote: »

That's putting it mildly. Why not remove the posts? They read like the ramblings of a mental case.

Sorry that I upset you.
Go back to attacking social welfare recipients,tell which post was the craziest.

To the Moderater I apoliigise but I have spent my political life defending the weak and sick from Andies.
I know exactly how to flush them out.
Sorry Andy.I will not let the likes of you bully a fellow Irishman when he is down.
You wish to debate your Matheusian gibberish I will debate you at any place of your choosing.

No one likes bullys,
Em this isn't low at all? It would be low in Dublin, but not in Carlow. Be grateful you get anything, social welfare in this country is far more generous than in other countries. Hop over to the UK and see how much you'd get there.


(posted by 'a dole bum' )




Sorry Mod when Imeet the real FG fascist i go into attack,I am famous for it.

Seriously I will leave, but kick him out,he was taught a little lesson in manners,
IT does show you the illness in some people/Me and mine are ok.
I hope that all your loved ones are safe and not exposed to people of that sort.


Moderater, He would have been forcibly removed from many premises.I knew his politics,that is why I posted.
To normal non political people it looked crazy.
No.I cut him to the bone,he will not sleep for a week,
Sorry again but I find it difficult to let these self important posters but down people in trouble.


Do you know what really upset him.when I said he was two months salary from the ditch compared to thr ops 4.

I will take a long break.
Crazy in the right way;)

foggy_lad

Lsd has so much to answer for!

Memory Of 98

foggy_lad wrote: »

Lsd has so much to answer for!

I think you are onto something there. You should see the private messages he took it upon himself to send me over the last hour for no reason what so ever. Nonsensical gibberish doesn`t do it justice.

golden lane

sinsin wrote: »

Sorry that I upset you.
Go back to attacking social welfare recipients,tell which post was the craziest.

To the Moderater I apoliigise but I have spent my political life defending the weak and sick from Andies.
I know exactly how to flush them out.
Sorry Andy.I will not let the likes of you bully a fellow Irishman when he is down.
You wish to debate your Matheusian gibberish I will debate you at any place of your choosing.

No one likes bullys,
Em this isn't low at all? It would be low in Dublin, but not in Carlow. Be grateful you get anything, social welfare in this country is far more generous than in other countries. Hop over to the UK and see how much you'd get there.


(posted by 'a dole bum' )




Sorry Mod when Imeet the real FG fascist i go into attack,I am famous for it.

Seriously I will leave, but kick him out,he was taught a little lesson in manners,
IT does show you the illness in some people/Me and mine are ok.
I hope that all your loved ones are safe and not exposed to people of that sort.


Moderater, He would have been forcibly removed from many premises.I knew his politics,that is why I posted.
To normal non political people it looked crazy.
No.I cut him to the bone,he will not sleep for a week,
Sorry again but I find it difficult to let these self important posters but down people in trouble.


Do you know what really upset him.when I said he was two months salary from the ditch compared to thr ops 4.

I will take a long break.
Crazy in the right way;)

yes..hop over to the uk.....they are trying to rduce the limit on benifits to twenty five thousand pounds a year..tax free....with free health...dentistry......school meals....kindergartens...etc etc....trying .....

foggy_lad

Memory Of 98 wrote: »

I think you are onto something there. You should see the private messages he took it upon himself to send me over the last hour for no reason what so ever. Nonsensical gibberish doesn`t do it justice.

I put those people on ignore.

Memory Of 98

foggy_lad wrote: »

I put those people on ignore.

How do you actually do that? I tell you there is not stranger than coming back to your computer from a quick break and finding 24 Private messages, each one more frantic and nonsensical than the last.

Owryan

foggy_lad wrote: »

RealistSpy wrote: »

It will only going lower as far as I can see it for the next 2- 3 years. Rent Allowance Supplement will be cut and the Dole will be cut. Best thing is to tighten your budget and apply for Rental Accommodation Scheme (RAS).

GL

from what i know about the Rental Accomodation Scheme it is not available to many of the people who are currently on rent supplement due to them being involved in anti social behavioiur or other criminal behaviour, the vetting is very strict with a Garda check being done. also the landlord can object to any candidate.

Unless things have changed it wasnt like that in my case.

I went for an interview and came away with an offer of housing.

A town councillor did tell me however that a lot of people have refused offers in so called "undesirable" estates and a lot of the vacant council units are lying idle because of the damage caused by peevious tenants and the money isnt there to fix them up

godwin

I never heard of RAS till today Would the scheme cover an existing dwelling that I'm renting if my landlord was ok with it?

Owryan wrote: »

Unless things have changed it wasnt like that in my case.

I went for an interview and came away with an offer of housing.

A town councillor did tell me however that a lot of people have refused offers in so called "undesirable" estates and a lot of the vacant council units are lying idle because of the damage caused by peevious tenants and the money isnt there to fix them up

foggy_lad

godwin wrote: »

I never heard of RAS till today Would the scheme cover an existing dwelling that I'm renting if my landlord was ok with it?

Yes, the RAS people will have a look at it to make sure it is acceptable and then start the paperwork, your landlord would have to sign up to an almost ten year period. But is guaranteed rent for that period. You should ask the landlord if they would be interested and tell them to contact the RAS office in the county council

foggy_lad

Owryan wrote: »

Unless things have changed it wasnt like that in my case.

I went for an interview and came away with an offer of housing.

A town councillor did tell me however that a lot of people have refused offers in so called "undesirable" estates and a lot of the vacant council units are lying idle because of the damage caused by peevious tenants and the money isnt there to fix them up

We're you getting an offer of council accommodation? The rental accommodation scheme is separate and totally different to council housing.

Andy!!

Might wanna ban that sinsin, sounds like a proper basketcase. Doubt people are going to emulate him.

munchkin_utd

SIX PACK wrote: »

1st of all i'm going to say i didn't choose to be on the dole so don't label just so we're clear
This thread is for those of us (& anyone else who cares) who are unfortunate enough to find ourselves out of work & looking for rent allowance

In Our case Couple with 1 child or one-parent with 1 child
The new rates for Carlow is €550 Maximum.
Now where the hell are we meant to get somewhere Half decent that's not a S#it hole & is €550 or less per month . . ? Our landlord is refusing to lower our rent so don't know what to do

jesus
heres a place that looks decent for 450 a month
http://www.daft.ie/searchrental.daft?id=1119010
and the agent has other 3 bed houses for 550

Theres a debate over in London on whether its right that people on the dole should be entitled automatically to prime city centre accomodation for free "beacuse they have to be accomodated where they want to live" yet in a parallel world the working part of the nation cant live "where they want" and have to move to remote areas as its all they can afford.

So essentially, working people must compromise on their accomodation arrangements as they are paying, but people on social welfare do not have to compromise because someone else is picking up the tab.

I'm undecided as to the ins and outs of what could be a bold social experiment in the UK, but at the moment with me the wife and 2 kids in a 2 bed apartment for a 1000 a month and no extra disposable income to pay the extra money for renting a small house - I only can envy the living conditions of folks on the dole in ireland who have their rent paid for AND approx 800 a head in dole cash in hand plus kids allowance and everything else that comes with it.

Owryan

the laurels is a nice spot, just happens to be near JSP and is tarred by association .

Super-Rush

Andy!! wrote: »

Might wanna ban that sinsin, sounds like a proper basketcase. Doubt people are going to emulate him.

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