Instead of the Cube Ive been offered.......

mikerd4

Right further to my post about being let down with the Cube Ive been offered a few others in its place. Ive not heard anything really about the brands here but a few reviews seem to be good.

So Im looking for opinions from the more in the know people here.

So its either the Sensa Lombardia Special With Ultegra Compact Groupset

http://www.sensabikes.com/product_info.php?cPath=4&products_id=470


Or one of either the Fuji Altamira 2.0 (Ultegra Mix)

http://www.fujibikes.com/bike/details/altamira-202

or Gran Fondo 3.0 (Full Ultegra)

http://www.fujibikes.com/bike/details/gran-fondo-30

Price wise its in this order (Cheapest to most expensive)

1. Gran Fondo
2. Lombardia
3. Altamira

Although there is only €200 in the diference

I was also offered this

http://www.sensabikes.com/product_info.php?cPath=4&products_id=468

But its a bit out what Im willing to pay and I think way too much for what Ill use it for (never stopped people I guess lol)

fat bloke

Altamira for me out of the three I reckon.

Does option 4 actually come with those wheels? Looks smashing. How much extra we talking?

CheGuedara

+1 on the Altamira

mikerd4

Yep those wheels, but 450 more

mikerd4

Edited, got the groupsets the wrong way around on the Fuji's

dancecatz2000

With the Sensa your getting a complete groupset, cranks + brakes been ultegra too, the Fuji Altamira frames are lovely.

fat bloke

Jaysus, that Sensa looks...eh.... dare I say it... Sensational.

Truly awful pun, but a sweet looking bike. It's a good half kilo lighter than the fuji as well. And flash carbon hoops straight outta the box? I'd go for that I reckon. -Does it look as good in the flesh?

dermur

Lombardia Special gets my vote. Very nice indeed.

mikerd4

The sensa doesn't have carbon rims?

Plastik

The Lomardia Superleggera that you linked does ...

mikerd4

Doh, I'd put that one out my mind as it was over my price bracket

mikerd4

Really need to make a decision but Im unsure! This is how they stack up price wise

Fuji Gran Fondo 3.0 (Full Ultegra) €2000
Sensa Lombardia special(Full Ultegra) €2359
Fuji Altamira 2.0 (Ultegra Mix) €2400
Fuji Gran fondo 3.0 (Full Dura Ace) €2600
Sensa Lombardia Superleggera special (Full Ultegra) €2695

I know nothing about either brand although web searches show they are both decent and the added groupsets are good. Im airring towards the Lombardia Special purely because I think it looks amazing. Its a pity it doesnt come with the CF wheels as they are almost 1K to buy on their own whislt its only 340 to buy the Superleggera with them as standard!

lennymc

id try to stretch to the superleggra. carbon wheels go woosh and are definately worth an extra few hundred quid! Consider it an advance saving. You will invairably look at getting a nice set of carbon wheels 6 months down the road!!

coastwatch

Not sure if it matters, but the geometry on Fuji Gran fondo's seems to be very relaxed / upright, with a 170mm Head Tube, versus 145mm on the Sensa bikes (for size 54 frame). The sensa is more like the Cube you were originally considering.

mikerd4

I can get a bit more off the Sensa's so it looks like thats what Ill be sticking with. Need to make a decision now lol Its a tough call

Rofo

Spend as much as you can stretch to or you'll regret it

Lumen

The RC58 wheels on the Sensa Lombardia Superleggera are not structural carbon, they're alloy with a fairing and weigh 1820g (claimed).

Harrybelafonte

If you could get the Fuji Altamira and get them to put better wheels on it? Not that the Oval ones are totally carp, but they're supposed to be a bit heavy (from what I've read, no real world experience of those particular ones).

mp31

The Fuji Gran Fondo in the Medium(53cm) has longer chainstays, wheelbase & head tube when compared to the rest. It also has a 71.5 deg head tube angle. Does that give it a more relaxed geometry than the rest - if so is that what you want?

Are you able to test them out to see which fits/feels the best?

C3PO

Rofo wrote: »

Spend as much as you can stretch to or you'll regret it

Or even better .... spend far more than you can afford .... like the rest of us!

mikerd4

As far as I know it will be a special order job to get the bike so I have to make up my mind based on the spec sheets etc They have other Sensas and Fuji's in store but not the exact bikes.

Im leaning to the Lombardia special as its the closest to the Cube price and spec wise. Ive enquired if I can get the up specced wheels on it and what the price would be. I really dont like in your face colour schemes either, although Id make exception.