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  • 21-04-2012 3:00am
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 350 ✭✭


    A major change in broadcasting is happening

    The PSB which we all pay for via the tv licence , is going digital,

    The 3 bodies recognised by the PSB are not allowed to be mentioned on this forum,

    So why have a forum?

    The 3 bodies are a part of the change that is happening as as much as saorview is.

    If anyone posts about saorview the logic of boards implies that they should be banned , the 3 bodies are recognised by saorview therefore the 3 bodies are infact a part of saorview and should be treated in the same manner.




    Discuss


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3 Digitaltvman


    +++1


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5 Itmakesnosense


    The response from boards seems to be that there is no difference between ourselves and the cowboy installers. I like many others in the trade bodies have not just years of experience but also was involved in this buisness long before Saorview. I am a member of the ISAA now but before it was set up I was a member of the CAI and paid for my own training in DTT installations, it cost a lot of money to go to Aldershot in the UK for this training but the city and Guilds cert I received for this training seems to mean nothing to boards. Installers seem to be under constant threat of being banned for comments and have relevant comments deleted by mods who don't seem to understand that this is a business. Comments that were clearly relevant to the topics being discussed were deleted as being off topic and this can only be because the mods didn't understand the topic while inaccurate comments by others have not been deleted.

    I have every right as a qualified and tax paying installer to my point of view. I don't have any issues with competent installers who don't want to join trade bodies or with private individuals who wish to to do a DIY job on their own homes but I do have issues with people who have jumped on the saorview bandwagon without any training or experience and are not only installing poor quality equipment but are also installing receivers as Saorview even though these receivers wont have the full Saorview service after ASO. The public is being duped by these installers and it seems that we are not allowed to mention this fact on boards. It is us in the business that realise what is going to happen on the morning of 24th of October when the analogue service is switched off and it is important that a sites like boards.ie allow these discussions to take place openly so the public is aware that they can very easily be conned by installers who are not giving the full facts about the equipment they are installing because the customers themselves wont realise until October.


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 12,072 Mod ✭✭✭✭icdg


    So why have a forum?

    Okay, since you did ask...

    In 1999 or thereabouts I set up a web site called "Irish Cable and Digital Guide" which tried to inform people about the various digital options available. At the time the only digital option available in Ireland was a Sky Digital service that cost £450 to purchase the equipment, more to install, and didn't offer any Irish or UK terrestrial channels. Chorus didn't launch a digital service until late 2000 and NTL followed in 2001. Both these services were a lot more limited than what is available now from UPC. And terrestrial...well, they'd spend another ten years talking about going digital.

    The idea of the ICDG was to guide viewers in their digital choices, giving the options, and presenting the choices available. It was aimed towards viewers. Not technicians, and not installers.

    In about 2000 or so I set up forums on another website (I can't remember what it was called now, Astroboards or something like that). They were organized much the same as now - Broadcasting, Cable/MMDS, Sky, and Terrestrial. Cloud, who was one of the founders of Boards.ie, offered to host the forums on Boards.ie . So we moved here and the ICDG forums were in the Hosted category for many years. About 2004 or so I no longer had the time to maintain the ICDG website and it hasn't been updated since (though its still online). At some stage about three or four years ago, Boards asked us if the ICDG forums could be incorporated into Boards.ie fully and at that stage I agreed and so they were moved from Hosted to Tech at that stage.

    The intended audience of the forums was always the viewer. The Terrestrial forum, however, seems to have been largely hijacked as a hang-out for installers, particularly over the last twelve months. This was never my intended audience.

    Anyway that's what the story is and why this forum exists.

    Now, that is seemingly the question you ask, but the tone of the posts seems to me that the intention of this thread is really to start a thread to question moderator decisions. And as the Charter states:


    The moderator's decisions are final. The moderators are ICDG, bk, and marclt, the Tech category moderators and the administrators of Boards.ie also have moderator rights on these forums. DON'T start any thread, the purpose of which is to question a moderator decision. A moderator decision will not usually be taken without reason, and such reason will usually be posted. Any futher corspondance will be via the Boards.ie Private Messaging facility. Any member repeatedly refusing to comply with this section will be issued with a ban from the Cable and Digital forums, at this discretion of the moderator concerned.

    Thread closed.


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